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Clean
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11/8/2013  8:42 PM
PresIke wrote:
nixluva wrote:
PresIke wrote:wow...bargs looks great tonight...if he can be something closer to this and we get melo back closer to what he was last year we could very dangerous.

crazy question: why is bargs doing better with tyson is out?

AB has been in there at center before when Tyson was playing. It's just that they're actually giving him more touches tonight.

good point nix, but why is that happening?

Less ISO melo I would guess. I have only seen it once this half.
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11/8/2013  8:44 PM
so much for bargs defensive weakness. 4 blocks. damn.
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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11/8/2013  8:45 PM 
3rd Qtr 4:43
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11/8/2013  8:45 PM
PresIke wrote:
nixluva wrote:
PresIke wrote:wow...bargs looks great tonight...if he can be something closer to this and we get melo back closer to what he was last year we could very dangerous.

crazy question: why is bargs doing better with tyson is out?

AB has been in there at center before when Tyson was playing. It's just that they're actually giving him more touches tonight.

good point nix, but why is that happening?

My two cents is that Woodson gave him the green light to shoot his way out of this slump, and Melo made it a point to defer the lead role to bargs for this game to help him get his confidence. my guess anyway.
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11/8/2013  8:46 PM
Clean wrote:
PresIke wrote:
nixluva wrote:
PresIke wrote:wow...bargs looks great tonight...if he can be something closer to this and we get melo back closer to what he was last year we could very dangerous.

crazy question: why is bargs doing better with tyson is out?

AB has been in there at center before when Tyson was playing. It's just that they're actually giving him more touches tonight.

good point nix, but why is that happening?

Less ISO melo I would guess. I have only seen it once this half.

Shots are falling. I bet we would all be surprise how less iso they have run this year.
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11/8/2013  8:46 PM
PresIke wrote:
nixluva wrote:
PresIke wrote:wow...bargs looks great tonight...if he can be something closer to this and we get melo back closer to what he was last year we could very dangerous.

crazy question: why is bargs doing better with tyson is out?

AB has been in there at center before when Tyson was playing. It's just that they're actually giving him more touches tonight.

good point nix, but why is that happening?

i think it's because of playa's point. the other team's center has to guard bargs. teams with centers that lack mobility to defend him will have to find a way to exploit any defensive weaknesses he has on the other end of the court or get him in foul trouble. it will be about matchups.

but that is a testament to bargs skill, and does raise questions about if we can do as well with he and tyson in the lineup.


There are no Centers that can stay with Bargnani. He makes Noah look bad too. It's up to the coaching and our PG to put Bargs in good spots to take advantage of his skills.
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11/8/2013  8:47 PM
PresIke wrote:so much for bargs defensive weakness. 4 blocks. damn.

Blocks does not mean your good defensively, the same goes for steals. They are only 1 part of the whole pie that is defense.
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11/8/2013  8:49 PM
Clean wrote:
PresIke wrote:so much for bargs defensive weakness. 4 blocks. damn.

Blocks does not mean your good defensively, the same goes for steals. They are only 1 part of the whole pie that is defense.


Bargs is playing with a ton of effort and aggressiveness. It shows and the blocks are a part of it.
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11/8/2013  8:50 PM
Clean wrote:
PresIke wrote:so much for bargs defensive weakness. 4 blocks. damn.

Blocks does not mean your good defensively, the same goes for steals. They are only 1 part of the whole pie that is defense.

Are you watching this game? Bargs has been very active and is most definitely playing good defense. Sure there are some bad plays, but overall he's been good.
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11/8/2013  8:50 PM 
3rd Qtr 2:45
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11/8/2013  8:50 PM
Clean wrote:
PresIke wrote:so much for bargs defensive weakness. 4 blocks. damn.

Blocks does not mean your good defensively, the same goes for steals. They are only 1 part of the whole pie that is defense.

yet it is better to get that part of the pie than none

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11/8/2013  8:50 PM
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ShellTopAdidas wrote:I like how they spreading the ball around. Win or lose they most continue this through out the season, it'll only help us in the playoffs.

Melo has to keep this style of play fresh from game to game, he's the straw that stirs the drink for the knicks. He called the meeting and probably told his teammates that he's gonna trust them and keep the ball moving like he did early in the season last yr. He is the "VOICE' instead of Jason Kidd now.

However Melo plays , the rest of the team follows suit. I might stop blaming Woody and blame Melo, he set the meeting , he changed his style of play and effort and his teammates stepped up.

It's a players league fo- sho


This might just be the post of the year ^

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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11/8/2013  8:52 PM
Clean wrote:
PresIke wrote:so much for bargs defensive weakness. 4 blocks. damn.

Blocks does not mean your good defensively, the same goes for steals. They are only 1 part of the whole pie that is defense.

You're right it's part of the picture, and he is doing that part very well, chasing down smaller faster players. His perimeter d is also good. Bargs has to become a better post defender, if he does we'll be in good shape.
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11/8/2013  8:53 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Clean wrote:
PresIke wrote:so much for bargs defensive weakness. 4 blocks. damn.

Blocks does not mean your good defensively, the same goes for steals. They are only 1 part of the whole pie that is defense.


Bargs is playing with a ton of effort and aggressiveness. It shows and the blocks are a part of it.

I never said he was not playing god D. I am responding to what he said. The only thing he mentioned is blocks. I never gave an opinion on Bargs.
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11/8/2013  8:53 PM
NardDogNation wrote:Would I be a dick for suggesting that Patrick Ewing looks like a stunt double for a Koopa Troopa from that Super Mario movie?

LOL you mean the Goombas?
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11/8/2013  8:55 PM 
3rd Qtr 0:09
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11/8/2013  8:55 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Clean wrote:
PresIke wrote:so much for bargs defensive weakness. 4 blocks. damn.

Blocks does not mean your good defensively, the same goes for steals. They are only 1 part of the whole pie that is defense.

You're right it's part of the picture, and he is doing that part very well, chasing down smaller faster players. His perimeter d is also good. Bargs has to become a better post defender, if he does we'll be in good shape.

He is actually a pretty good post defender. I like his hedges so far this season but his rotations has been poor at times.
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11/8/2013  8:56 PM
good things happen when Pablo starts.
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11/8/2013  8:56 PM
We need some garbage time so we can see Murry and Cole play.
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11/8/2013  8:56 PM
TeamBall wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:Would I be a dick for suggesting that Patrick Ewing looks like a stunt double for a Koopa Troopa from that Super Mario movie?

LOL you mean the Goombas?

EXACTLY!
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