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Bonn1997
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10/9/2013  6:17 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Be prepared to reboot the "We don't win the right way" discussions.

We hate because we care.

I am prepared for many reminders about how much better our 1st or 2nd round series loss is than the Isiah years.

And don't forget the ever present we are now doomed to be a second round and out team instead of rebuilding for the lottery.

Also remember to use these helpful points:

1) Boston actually beat us in the first round,
2) injuries are no excuse for us, but are for any other team [see #1]
3) Indy swept us in six games last year.

You have a great imagination!

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10/9/2013  11:18 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Be prepared to reboot the "We don't win the right way" discussions.

We hate because we care.

I am prepared for many reminders about how much better our 1st or 2nd round series loss is than the Isiah years.

And don't forget the ever present we are now doomed to be a second round and out team instead of rebuilding for the lottery.

Also remember to use these helpful points:

1) Boston actually beat us in the first round,
2) injuries are no excuse for us, but are for any other team [see #1]
3) Indy swept us in six games last year.

1) are you seriously comparing boston playing without rondo as somehow being NOT worse than whatever the knicks had going on? rondo alone has greater value to hius team than any knickerbocker does at the present time.
2) see (1)
3) agreed, and i will add "exposed" us and "gave a spanking to" us as well. i think that's fair.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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10/10/2013  12:42 AM
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I think that the knicks toyed with Boston. I also believe that if Rondo was in the game we would have been up by 30 point with our 1st and 2nd units in the game. Rondo still hasen't learned how to hit a jump shot yet. LOL

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10/10/2013  12:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/10/2013  12:52 AM
GustavBahler wrote:I just hope that those who can't find anything good to say about the Knicks will do so when they're playing well and give them the credit they deserve. If your pride prevents you from doing so, then at least don't try to consistently make those who are enjoying the season as miserable as you are. That should be a bannable offense.

Papabear Says

I agree with that. What they do they go into hiding because all of the Knicks lovers come out and posts and they know if they continue to rip the Knicks while they are winning they just might get banned. LOL

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10/10/2013  7:13 AM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I think that the knicks toyed with Boston. I also believe that if Rondo was in the game we would have been up by 30 point with our 1st and 2nd units in the game. Rondo still hasen't learned how to hit a jump shot yet. LOL


I'm sure that's it. It's not like our injured players would have preferred a few days off before the Indiana series.
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10/10/2013  9:14 AM
“That’s how I play; I ain’t going to be quiet about it no more. I changed coming into the league, trying to be quiet and feel my way around. But I’ve been around a little bit now. I’m going to do how I do.”

- IMan Shumpert

This is a very different Knicks roster. 13 new faces attempting o get in where they fit in.

Tim Hardaway smiled from ear to ear over his son.

Carmelo and Andrea have excellent body language.

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10/10/2013  9:57 AM
Shumpert is the SG. THJ is more than capable of being an efficient smarter version of JR. No to JR!!
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10/11/2013  10:33 AM
Cut Chris Smith Now

“The beauty of Bargnani is he’s going to find out he’s going to have a lot of wide-open threes the way we play. He can make threes, put the ball on the floor and he can post up. He’s a triple threat in terms of scoring the ball."

- Mike Woodson

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10/11/2013  12:16 PM
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Be prepared to reboot the "We don't win the right way" discussions.

We hate because we care.

I am prepared for many reminders about how much better our 1st or 2nd round series loss is than the Isiah years.

And don't forget the ever present we are now doomed to be a second round and out team instead of rebuilding for the lottery.

Also remember to use these helpful points:

1) Boston actually beat us in the first round,
2) injuries are no excuse for us, but are for any other team [see #1]
3) Indy swept us in six games last year.

1) are you seriously comparing boston playing without rondo as somehow being NOT worse than whatever the knicks had going on? rondo alone has greater value to hius team than any knickerbocker does at the present time.
2) see (1)
3) agreed, and i will add "exposed" us and "gave a spanking to" us as well. i think that's fair.

By golly you are serious, aren't you? And I thought I was just being sarcastic!

Enjoy the season!

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10/11/2013  5:41 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Be prepared to reboot the "We don't win the right way" discussions.

We hate because we care.

I am prepared for many reminders about how much better our 1st or 2nd round series loss is than the Isiah years.

And don't forget the ever present we are now doomed to be a second round and out team instead of rebuilding for the lottery.

Also remember to use these helpful points:

1) Boston actually beat us in the first round,
2) injuries are no excuse for us, but are for any other team [see #1]
3) Indy swept us in six games last year.

Helpful and true- don't forget, last season we simultaneously over and under performed. Our record was a fluke and we were actually a terrible team but at the same time we should have got to the finals.

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10/11/2013  6:55 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I just hope that those who can't find anything good to say about the Knicks will do so when they're playing well and give them the credit they deserve. If your pride prevents you from doing so, then at least don't try to consistently make those who are enjoying the season as miserable as you are. That should be a bannable offense.

You're posting to tell us about how you hope others will post in a hypothetical situation?
Regardless, maybe one person here never says anything positive about the team but that's all I can think of.


Absolutely Im hoping people won't piss on this team incessantly when they're playing well and its more than one person. You make it sound like the Knicks playing well is far fetched.


That depends on what playing well means.

What's your standard?


The team should be either competing for a championship or rebuilding (towards a team that can compete for a championship). I don't see us doing either. In fact, I haven't seen the team do either even once this century.


So say this team goes on a ten game win streak, the team as a whole is playing well, you cant find anything good to say because of the way the roster is constructed?


I can say (and already have said) good things about individual players. It's gonna take more than an 10 game regular season winning streak to make me think the team is well constructed. Even Isiah's teams had some 6+ game winning streaks.

Papabear Says

Bonn Bonn Who really cares what you think. LOL Just enjoy the Knicks games and if you don't then why watch?? We have a new season and lots of people feel good. If you don't then don't watch. You really don't like the way the team is constructed and I understand that. But damn every single post the same old broken record. There is a game tonight and with all your complaints I bet you watch the game. You can't help yourself.

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10/11/2013  7:06 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I think that the knicks toyed with Boston. I also believe that if Rondo was in the game we would have been up by 30 point with our 1st and 2nd units in the game. Rondo still hasen't learned how to hit a jump shot yet. LOL


I'm sure that's it. It's not like our injured players would have preferred a few days off before the Indiana series.

Papabear Says

You act as though we got swept by Indy. As I remember it was 6 games and we won 2. JR played his worse ball. Woody did some bad coaching. Indy was the better team.

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10/11/2013  7:10 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Shumpert is the SG. THJ is more than capable of being an efficient smarter version of JR. No to JR!!

Papabear Says

Forget it! The fix is in. JR will be the starting shooting guard. I don't like it because it's bad enough when Melo holds the ball and we have JR holding the ball?? Felton better control the game and ooh Felton likes to get his too. Woody must change that and if he don't we will have problems.

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10/11/2013  7:59 PM
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I just hope that those who can't find anything good to say about the Knicks will do so when they're playing well and give them the credit they deserve. If your pride prevents you from doing so, then at least don't try to consistently make those who are enjoying the season as miserable as you are. That should be a bannable offense.

You're posting to tell us about how you hope others will post in a hypothetical situation?
Regardless, maybe one person here never says anything positive about the team but that's all I can think of.


Absolutely Im hoping people won't piss on this team incessantly when they're playing well and its more than one person. You make it sound like the Knicks playing well is far fetched.


That depends on what playing well means.

What's your standard?


The team should be either competing for a championship or rebuilding (towards a team that can compete for a championship). I don't see us doing either. In fact, I haven't seen the team do either even once this century.


So say this team goes on a ten game win streak, the team as a whole is playing well, you cant find anything good to say because of the way the roster is constructed?


I can say (and already have said) good things about individual players. It's gonna take more than an 10 game regular season winning streak to make me think the team is well constructed. Even Isiah's teams had some 6+ game winning streaks.

Papabear Says

Bonn Bonn Who really cares what you think.


Obviously Gustav cares immensely. Did you read his posts begging for positive comments from critics? I've seen you make similar posts too actually.
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10/11/2013  9:37 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I just hope that those who can't find anything good to say about the Knicks will do so when they're playing well and give them the credit they deserve. If your pride prevents you from doing so, then at least don't try to consistently make those who are enjoying the season as miserable as you are. That should be a bannable offense.

You're posting to tell us about how you hope others will post in a hypothetical situation?
Regardless, maybe one person here never says anything positive about the team but that's all I can think of.


Absolutely Im hoping people won't piss on this team incessantly when they're playing well and its more than one person. You make it sound like the Knicks playing well is far fetched.


That depends on what playing well means.

What's your standard?


The team should be either competing for a championship or rebuilding (towards a team that can compete for a championship). I don't see us doing either. In fact, I haven't seen the team do either even once this century.


So say this team goes on a ten game win streak, the team as a whole is playing well, you cant find anything good to say because of the way the roster is constructed?


I can say (and already have said) good things about individual players. It's gonna take more than an 10 game regular season winning streak to make me think the team is well constructed. Even Isiah's teams had some 6+ game winning streaks.

Papabear Says

Bonn Bonn Who really cares what you think.


Obviously Gustav cares immensely. Did you read his posts begging for positive comments from critics? I've seen you make similar posts too actually.

If I'm begging for anything its for you not to be an insufferable douche next season when the team is playing well. Whining about some arcane statistic after a win.

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10/11/2013  9:52 PM
Woody did some bad coaching.

As I remember it was 6 games and we won 2. JR played his worse ball. An underweight Chandler was dominated by Roy Hibbert. Lance Stephenson thought he was Michael Jordan. Ray Felton was not feeling it.

(Woody did some bad coaching?) WTF is bad coaching?

Indy was the better team.

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10/11/2013  9:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/11/2013  9:54 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I just hope that those who can't find anything good to say about the Knicks will do so when they're playing well and give them the credit they deserve. If your pride prevents you from doing so, then at least don't try to consistently make those who are enjoying the season as miserable as you are. That should be a bannable offense.

You're posting to tell us about how you hope others will post in a hypothetical situation?
Regardless, maybe one person here never says anything positive about the team but that's all I can think of.


Absolutely Im hoping people won't piss on this team incessantly when they're playing well and its more than one person. You make it sound like the Knicks playing well is far fetched.


That depends on what playing well means.

What's your standard?


The team should be either competing for a championship or rebuilding (towards a team that can compete for a championship). I don't see us doing either. In fact, I haven't seen the team do either even once this century.


So say this team goes on a ten game win streak, the team as a whole is playing well, you cant find anything good to say because of the way the roster is constructed?


I can say (and already have said) good things about individual players. It's gonna take more than an 10 game regular season winning streak to make me think the team is well constructed. Even Isiah's teams had some 6+ game winning streaks.

Papabear Says

Bonn Bonn Who really cares what you think.


Obviously Gustav cares immensely. Did you read his posts begging for positive comments from critics? I've seen you make similar posts too actually.

If I'm begging for anything its for you not to be an insufferable douche next season when the team is playing well. Whining about some arcane statistic after a win.

Maybe you'll feel better if you become more tolerant of diverse views, or perhaps if you can't do that, you can put me on ignore. I've been here almost 10 years. I'm not gonna change my posting just to make some newbie happy.

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10/11/2013  9:58 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I just hope that those who can't find anything good to say about the Knicks will do so when they're playing well and give them the credit they deserve. If your pride prevents you from doing so, then at least don't try to consistently make those who are enjoying the season as miserable as you are. That should be a bannable offense.

You're posting to tell us about how you hope others will post in a hypothetical situation?
Regardless, maybe one person here never says anything positive about the team but that's all I can think of.


Absolutely Im hoping people won't piss on this team incessantly when they're playing well and its more than one person. You make it sound like the Knicks playing well is far fetched.


That depends on what playing well means.

What's your standard?


The team should be either competing for a championship or rebuilding (towards a team that can compete for a championship). I don't see us doing either. In fact, I haven't seen the team do either even once this century.


So say this team goes on a ten game win streak, the team as a whole is playing well, you cant find anything good to say because of the way the roster is constructed?


I can say (and already have said) good things about individual players. It's gonna take more than an 10 game regular season winning streak to make me think the team is well constructed. Even Isiah's teams had some 6+ game winning streaks.

Papabear Says

Bonn Bonn Who really cares what you think.


Obviously Gustav cares immensely. Did you read his posts begging for positive comments from critics? I've seen you make similar posts too actually.

If I'm begging for anything its for you not to be an insufferable douche next season when the team is playing well. Whining about some arcane statistic after a win.

Maybe you'll feel better if you become more tolerant of diverse views, or perhaps if you can't do that, you can put me on ignore. I've been here almost 10 years. I'm not gonna change my posting just to make some relative newbie happy.

There is very little if any diversity in your views towards this squad. Its pretty much always negative. And as far as putting anyone on ignore, you're the one who keeps either replying to my posts or bringing up my name. If you don't like what I have to say then follow your own advice.

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10/11/2013  10:04 PM
misterearl wrote:Woody did some bad coaching.

As I remember it was 6 games and we won 2. JR played his worse ball. An underweight Chandler was dominated by Roy Hibbert. Lance Stephenson thought he was Michael Jordan. Ray Felton was not feeling it.

(Woody did some bad coaching?) WTF is bad coaching?

Indy was the better team.

bad regular season coaching gets revealed in the playoffs, just like fool's gold and jayvee players get exposed in the real season.

woodson's playoff record is embarrassing because his flaws as a coach are hidden in the regular season.

bad coaching is when you coddle and enable certain players and play favorites instead of molding an identity at the expense of a few regular-season wins.

i would have preferred a 5th or 6th seed last season if it meant a more balanced, cohesive, resilient, adaptable, professional, and rested team.

the knicks should have swept an undermanned and exhausted celtic team. they should have made the pacers series far more competitive.

the pacers may indeed be a better team but they were also better coached.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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10/11/2013  10:21 PM
dk7th wrote:
misterearl wrote:Woody did some bad coaching.

As I remember it was 6 games and we won 2. JR played his worse ball. An underweight Chandler was dominated by Roy Hibbert. Lance Stephenson thought he was Michael Jordan. Ray Felton was not feeling it.

(Woody did some bad coaching?) WTF is bad coaching?

Indy was the better team.

bad regular season coaching gets revealed in the playoffs, just like fool's gold and jayvee players get exposed in the real season.

woodson's playoff record is embarrassing because his flaws as a coach are hidden in the regular season.

bad coaching is when you coddle and enable certain players and play favorites instead of molding an identity at the expense of a few regular-season wins.

i would have preferred a 5th or 6th seed last season if it meant a more balanced, cohesive, resilient, adaptable, professional, and rested team.

the knicks should have swept an undermanned and exhausted celtic team. they should have made the pacers series far more competitive.

the pacers may indeed be a better team but they were also better coached.

Just wondering who you thought played too many minutes. No one other than JR played over 2600 minutes. Obviously Kidd broke down under the wear and tear of the minutes given but I don't think Woodson over or under used other guys. Novak was over 1600 minutes. Prigs was just under 1300. A lot of posters say that Tyson played too many minutes but he was at 32 a game. Duncan and Garnett were almost there and have quite a bit more mileage and age then flu. Woodson had to use every guy other then Camby on the roster for significant minutes for parts of the season. Hearing about Shump's issues in the summer makes you wonder if he should have just been rested for the entire season. Now we know Camby's plantar fascia was really bad and he is out indefinitely.
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