If he wants to have the free agent exerience thats another story.

I hate to revisit the trade again (I have not in a looooong time) but if we gave up that much for him (Its the picks im concerned with, not Gallo) and we go into suckatude then its an epic disaster.

Me thinks/hope that this is an exercise of him getting that plum extension.

The thought of watching Denver get our picks while Melo is smiling in Los Angeles will make me sick.

Was Bargnani an attempt like so many in the ewing era to get a complimentry piece to keep a star player from leaving?

Lets see how the kid plays next year. Bargs is only 27 and somtimes guys go thru injury stages and come out of it just fine. If so, then it can be real pretty next year.

Rondo? Lets keep that fool out of the Garden.

Nalod wrote:Melo can extend in February for 5 yers 130 mil.

If he wants to have the free agent exerience thats another story.

I hate to revisit the trade again (I have not in a looooong time) but if we gave up that much for him (Its the picks im concerned with, not Gallo) and we go into suckatude then its an epic disaster.

Me thinks/hope that this is an exercise of him getting that plum extension.

The thought of watching Denver get our picks while Melo is smiling in Los Angeles will make me sick.

Was Bargnani an attempt like so many in the ewing era to get a complimentry piece to keep a star player from leaving?

Lets see how the kid plays next year. Bargs is only 27 and somtimes guys go thru injury stages and come out of it just fine. If so, then it can be real pretty next year.

Rondo? Lets keep that fool out of the Garden.

Melo forced his way here in a way that very few players have ever done in the history of sports. Guys don't just do that then decide to leave a few years later. LA does not have an attractive situation and playing with Kobe for a year or two at the end of his career is not worth it. I would argue that Melo would be trying to push Kobe here more than the other way around. LA is a great franchise, but i don't see what advantage going there would provide over NY.

GustavBahler wrote:

tkf wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

martin wrote:

MS wrote:Who really cares. So we are a 6th seed instead of a five. The Knicks had the model to follow, they broke it, not suprisingly and are now in the same position as always. Not good enough to win a title, but good enough never to improve.

having a gigantic amount of cap space with Love, Rondo, Aldridge come up as free agents doesn't present the opportunity to improve?

martin do you honestly think that rondo will leave boston? seriously... And love and Aldridge will be traded IMO to destinations of their choice and resign.... the key is, how many teams will have cap space and a better situation in 2015..

cap space is great martin, but alone is not enough.. you need a combination of cap space, picks and preferably a young core to move forward with.. I mean every team with cap space can say the same thing you are saying.. cleveland will have a ton of cap space then as well, and they will have uncle drew as a major piece to showcase.. young piece... and picks..

I am not buying that the knicks are building towards 2015.. no way, no how.. nothing they are doing is giving me any indication that is what they are trying to do..

Rondo has already given indication he wants out. And Knicks will have cap space in 2015, that is an indication they are allowing themselves that opportunity. Knicks with Melo, Shumpert, Hardaway jr, and the cap space will pose one of the more attractive situations for any major free agent that summer. We have young pieces, and not having a couple late first round picks won't matter in this case.

only a knick fan would say and think this.. really, I just beg you for one minute to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is just a NBA fan... I don't think anyone would say that melo, shumpert and hardaway JR makes for any reason to come play for the knicks.. I just don't get that.. but hey...if you think that is an attractive core of players to draw FA's then fine... I will continue to say this.. the knicks are by no means looking towards 2015 other than it being another year to milk fans out of money..

Papabear Says

Well at least you finally admitted that you are not a Knicks fan. You are just a NBA fan who hates the Knicks.

really? why the baiting post?

You just referred to yourself as an NBA fan and others as Knicks fans. Sounds like an accurate description from Papabear cosnidering the tenor of almost entirely all your posts here.

no I didn't.. I asked him to put himself in the shoes of someone who is not a knick fan and just an NBA fan... Not sure how you come to that conclusion... If you are not only a fan of the knicks but a fan of the NBA you would not make such comments....that is my point.. read again..

This isn't the first time that you have declared that you are an NBA fan as a defense of why you are so critical of the Knicks.

ARE YOU Not an Nba fan?

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nyvector16 wrote:Anyone who thinks that Melo will leave the Knicks for the Lakers for less money with D'Antoni coaching is dreaming...

Perhaps LA plans to try an S & T (and doesn't care about keeping MDA).

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https://twitter.com/ShawnFNBA/statuses/353796314464665601

Supposedly this dinner took place within 24hrs after D-12 made his announcement official and Melo flew out there for dinner.

My guess is Melo is trying to recruit Kobe to NY more than the other way around. Going to LA to play with Kobe for a year or two and having nothing else around him doesn't sound attractive at all. Wouldn't be surprised if Kobe leaves. LA has nothing to offer either player besides each other for a very short period of time.

Lakers will have major cap space the yr prior to us having cap space...Nobody is signed but Nash. You think Lakers won't be able to sign anyone?

If it was what you're trying to portray..... then Melo being a true New York Boss would have told Kobe to fly his broke ankle arse out to New York not the other way around.

So you are convinced that Melo will go to LA to team with Nash, broken Kobe and ...? And who? who else?

Not convinced but are the Lakers a "Clear And Present Danger"....yep surely they are

Some Restricted but most Unrestricted

Dirk
DeMarcus Cousins
Rudy Gay
Derrick Favors
Trevor Ariza
Larry Sanders
Thabo Sefelosha
Greivis Vasquez
Chris Bosh
Luke Ridnour
Eric Bledsoe
Ed Davis
Danny Granger
Luol Deng
Kyle Lowry
Paul Piece
Paul George
Avery Bradley
Zach Randolph
Jerryd Bayless
Evan Turner
Kris Humphries

Melo and Kobe only need a combination of 2 or 3 from this list, to be seriously relevant again

Between Melo Kobe and Nash how much space to u envision them having 10 million to fill out 12 spots

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martin wrote:

tkf wrote:

martin wrote:

MS wrote:Who really cares. So we are a 6th seed instead of a five. The Knicks had the model to follow, they broke it, not suprisingly and are now in the same position as always. Not good enough to win a title, but good enough never to improve.

having a gigantic amount of cap space with Love, Rondo, Aldridge come up as free agents doesn't present the opportunity to improve?

martin do you honestly think that rondo will leave boston? seriously... And love and Aldridge will be traded IMO to destinations of their choice and resign.... the key is, how many teams will have cap space and a better situation in 2015..

cap space is great martin, but alone is not enough.. you need a combination of cap space, picks and preferably a young core to move forward with.. I mean every team with cap space can say the same thing you are saying.. cleveland will have a ton of cap space then as well, and they will have uncle drew as a major piece to showcase.. young piece... and picks..

I am not buying that the knicks are building towards 2015.. no way, no how.. nothing they are doing is giving me any indication that is what they are trying to do..

The indication that the Knicks will have room to re-tweak in 2015 is right in front of your face: cap space. If you don't want to see it, keep riding blind.

Also, please let me know how much cap space CLE has in 2015 and how many other teams will too. Reasonable expectation.

And yes I do think there is a possibility that Rondo leave, management has been trying to trade him and they keep butting heads. Armed with that, why do you think he will stay?

And Love, Aldridge just watch Howard leave for nothing, just like a lot of others; they can certainly do the same.

I think the whole team is under team option.. they can easily just extend waiters and irving and go from there.

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martin wrote:

MS wrote:Who really cares. So we are a 6th seed instead of a five. The Knicks had the model to follow, they broke it, not suprisingly and are now in the same position as always. Not good enough to win a title, but good enough never to improve.

having a gigantic amount of cap space with Love, Rondo, Aldridge come up as free agents doesn't present the opportunity to improve?

I want no part of Aldridge he will be 30

why, he has been super durable

tkf wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

tkf wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

martin wrote:

MS wrote:Who really cares. So we are a 6th seed instead of a five. The Knicks had the model to follow, they broke it, not suprisingly and are now in the same position as always. Not good enough to win a title, but good enough never to improve.

having a gigantic amount of cap space with Love, Rondo, Aldridge come up as free agents doesn't present the opportunity to improve?

martin do you honestly think that rondo will leave boston? seriously... And love and Aldridge will be traded IMO to destinations of their choice and resign.... the key is, how many teams will have cap space and a better situation in 2015..

cap space is great martin, but alone is not enough.. you need a combination of cap space, picks and preferably a young core to move forward with.. I mean every team with cap space can say the same thing you are saying.. cleveland will have a ton of cap space then as well, and they will have uncle drew as a major piece to showcase.. young piece... and picks..

I am not buying that the knicks are building towards 2015.. no way, no how.. nothing they are doing is giving me any indication that is what they are trying to do..

Rondo has already given indication he wants out. And Knicks will have cap space in 2015, that is an indication they are allowing themselves that opportunity. Knicks with Melo, Shumpert, Hardaway jr, and the cap space will pose one of the more attractive situations for any major free agent that summer. We have young pieces, and not having a couple late first round picks won't matter in this case.

only a knick fan would say and think this.. really, I just beg you for one minute to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is just a NBA fan... I don't think anyone would say that melo, shumpert and hardaway JR makes for any reason to come play for the knicks.. I just don't get that.. but hey...if you think that is an attractive core of players to draw FA's then fine... I will continue to say this.. the knicks are by no means looking towards 2015 other than it being another year to milk fans out of money..

Papabear Says

Well at least you finally admitted that you are not a Knicks fan. You are just a NBA fan who hates the Knicks.

really? why the baiting post?

You just referred to yourself as an NBA fan and others as Knicks fans. Sounds like an accurate description from Papabear cosnidering the tenor of almost entirely all your posts here.

no I didn't.. I asked him to put himself in the shoes of someone who is not a knick fan and just an NBA fan... Not sure how you come to that conclusion... If you are not only a fan of the knicks but a fan of the NBA you would not make such comments....that is my point.. read again..

This isn't the first time that you have declared that you are an NBA fan as a defense of why you are so critical of the Knicks.

ARE YOU Not an Nba fan?

Knicks fan first, NBA fan second. You showed a great deal more enthusiasm this season for the Nuggets and their latest first round exit than you have for any part of the Knicks season last year, win streaks and all. Looks very much like you have the order reversed.

You asked us to see other other side of the argument, well TKF, try to do the same thing. You have a poster who is negative I would say close to 100 percent of the time towards the team, and shows much more love for another team because it has former Knicks on them. You refer to yourself as an NBA fan first, you have done it repeatedly. Sounds what Papabear said is accurate.

If let you up on the negativity once in a while, talked more about some of the positives you can find no matter how small, no one would question your love for the team. Its beyond just constructive criticism. We all do that. We get that your are pessimistic about the Knicks and their future and I can't blame you. But after a while people get tired of being reminded of it at every turn, regardless of the subject. Can you understand why after a point that people would get tired of that? Wouldn't you if the situation was reversed, on a Knicks fan site?

GustavBahler wrote:

tkf wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

tkf wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

martin wrote:

MS wrote:Who really cares. So we are a 6th seed instead of a five. The Knicks had the model to follow, they broke it, not suprisingly and are now in the same position as always. Not good enough to win a title, but good enough never to improve.

having a gigantic amount of cap space with Love, Rondo, Aldridge come up as free agents doesn't present the opportunity to improve?

martin do you honestly think that rondo will leave boston? seriously... And love and Aldridge will be traded IMO to destinations of their choice and resign.... the key is, how many teams will have cap space and a better situation in 2015..

cap space is great martin, but alone is not enough.. you need a combination of cap space, picks and preferably a young core to move forward with.. I mean every team with cap space can say the same thing you are saying.. cleveland will have a ton of cap space then as well, and they will have uncle drew as a major piece to showcase.. young piece... and picks..

I am not buying that the knicks are building towards 2015.. no way, no how.. nothing they are doing is giving me any indication that is what they are trying to do..

Rondo has already given indication he wants out. And Knicks will have cap space in 2015, that is an indication they are allowing themselves that opportunity. Knicks with Melo, Shumpert, Hardaway jr, and the cap space will pose one of the more attractive situations for any major free agent that summer. We have young pieces, and not having a couple late first round picks won't matter in this case.

only a knick fan would say and think this.. really, I just beg you for one minute to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is just a NBA fan... I don't think anyone would say that melo, shumpert and hardaway JR makes for any reason to come play for the knicks.. I just don't get that.. but hey...if you think that is an attractive core of players to draw FA's then fine... I will continue to say this.. the knicks are by no means looking towards 2015 other than it being another year to milk fans out of money..

Papabear Says

Well at least you finally admitted that you are not a Knicks fan. You are just a NBA fan who hates the Knicks.

really? why the baiting post?

You just referred to yourself as an NBA fan and others as Knicks fans. Sounds like an accurate description from Papabear cosnidering the tenor of almost entirely all your posts here.

no I didn't.. I asked him to put himself in the shoes of someone who is not a knick fan and just an NBA fan... Not sure how you come to that conclusion... If you are not only a fan of the knicks but a fan of the NBA you would not make such comments....that is my point.. read again..

This isn't the first time that you have declared that you are an NBA fan as a defense of why you are so critical of the Knicks.

ARE YOU Not an Nba fan?

Knicks fan first, NBA fan second. You showed a great deal more enthusiasm this season for the Nuggets and their latest first round exit than you have for any part of the Knicks season last year, win streaks and all. Looks very much like you have the order reversed.

You asked us to see other other side of the argument, well TKF, try to do the same thing. You have a poster who is negative I would say close to 100 percent of the time towards the team, and shows much more love for another team because it has former Knicks on them. You refer to yourself as an NBA fan first, you have done it repeatedly. Sounds what Papabear said is accurate.

If let you up on the negativity once in a while, talked more about some of the positives you can find no matter how small, no one would question your love for the team. Its beyond just constructive criticism. We all do that. We get that your are pessimistic about the Knicks and their future and I can't blame you. But after a while people get tired of being reminded of it at every turn, regardless of the subject. Can you understand why after a point that people would get tired of that? Wouldn't you if the situation was reversed, on a Knicks fan site?

You have a poster who is negative I would say close to 100 percent of the time towards the team, and shows much more love for another team because it has former Knicks on them

well if that were true, wouldn't that show you how much of a knick fan I am? that when the players leave that used to play here, I still have love for them, because they wore the knick uniform? Played hard and honest for us? I on'y root for players that have given to NY what we fans have given to them.. which is why I can still root for lin, lee, gallo, chandler, etc..

Knicks fan first, NBA fan second.

kind of hard to keep things in perspective that way if you ask me..

If let you up on the negativity once in a while, talked more about some of the positives you can find no matter how small,

actually I am.. the possibility of carmelo opting out may be the best thing to happen to this franchise in the past 5 years... honestly.. I am kind of excited again about this team and the prospects of that happening.. if he doesn't go to LA(or anywhere else for that matter) I will be more pissed than the day we traded for him.. Him opting out and leaving is my only hope for the near future.. i want to see the knicks put together a real team.. not this circus act.. sorry, I am not buying this guy, or this mess... i want better.. you should too..