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Andrea "Il Mago" (The Magician) Bargnani Appreciation
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knicks1248
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7/2/2013  8:24 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:
Vmart wrote:I know why they call him the Magician, he is a giant disappearing act.

Has anyone heard if he is recovered from the elbow injury?

good question, but I know the knicks would not make this trade if they didn't think he was going to be 100..

there were time last season when we had 5 guys on the floor that had the ability to shoot the 3..We made teams look silly trying to defend us..somebody was constantly left open, but it all started with ball movement..

I can't believe we went away from that in the playoffs..smh

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7/2/2013  10:14 AM
nixluva wrote:Man please! Anyone can bash Bargs based on the last 2 years, but at least we know why he was playing poorly. There's a great chance that we can get him back to his best BB and even better if we can get him to buy into the winning attitude we have here. The Raps stunk and who knows how that effected him. I'm sure the losing doesn't exactly inspire a player. He'll be coming here with a fresh start and a positive attitude. I think that's gonna make a huge difference.

and how much effort are you going to give a franchise when they Boo you mercilessly the moment you step on the floor. Raptor fans have developed a penchant for totally turning on their players worse than any franchise I have seen before. They did it to Vince, the did it to Bosch and they have done it to Bargs. Few players would give 100% under such conditions.

I also read that he has been depressed on a team lacking any other Euro players who he can relate to and it was written that he was very hopeful that Prigs would be on the team with him.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/2/2013  10:52 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:
nixluva wrote:Man please! Anyone can bash Bargs based on the last 2 years, but at least we know why he was playing poorly. There's a great chance that we can get him back to his best BB and even better if we can get him to buy into the winning attitude we have here. The Raps stunk and who knows how that effected him. I'm sure the losing doesn't exactly inspire a player. He'll be coming here with a fresh start and a positive attitude. I think that's gonna make a huge difference.

and how much effort are you going to give a franchise when they Boo you mercilessly the moment you step on the floor. Raptor fans have developed a penchant for totally turning on their players worse than any franchise I have seen before. They did it to Vince, the did it to Bosch and they have done it to Bargs. Few players would give 100% under such conditions.

I also read that he has been depressed on a team lacking any other Euro players who he can relate to and it was written that he was very hopeful that Prigs would be on the team with him.

people are human. Its tough to suceed in a situation that makes you miserable, or an environment that makes you miserable. Sports, relationships, jobs, whatever... we have all been there in some way.

I will say this... he's a good player. There is a real reason he was picked #1 aside it being a weak draft. He's not a star, he's not a great player, but he's really good and if happy and motivated can and will be a big contributor. Living in NYC will be big also. Its possible he's happy to collect his NBA millions next two years and retire a rich man in his homeland. Its also possible a better environment and situation and being healthy reminds him about what he loves about the game and beingh and NBA player. Lot of upside for the Knicks. Thats the cost of using the pick. The upside is clearly there. If you cant see it your not being honest. Doesnt mean its a sure thing, but this looks like a good fit to me.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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7/2/2013  10:56 AM

Being a no. 1 overall pick brings on expectations. So he is not a star, not paid like one and could be a potential reclaimation project for us.

The price was not high. Maybe we can build him back up and trade him next year for some picks if we ever want to draft again.

He is a knick for now. If he is motivated it can be an interesting situation.

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7/2/2013  12:41 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Vmart wrote:I know why they call him the Magician, he is a giant disappearing act.

Has anyone heard if he is recovered from the elbow injury?

good question, but I know the knicks would not make this trade if they didn't think he was going to be 100..

there were time last season when we had 5 guys on the floor that had the ability to shoot the 3..We made teams look silly trying to defend us..somebody was constantly left open, but it all started with ball movement..

I can't believe we went away from that in the playoffs..smh

The arm was supposed to be healed by the end of last season, so I think he's good to go.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
knicks1248
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7/2/2013  12:47 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
Vmart wrote:I know why they call him the Magician, he is a giant disappearing act.

Has anyone heard if he is recovered from the elbow injury?

good question, but I know the knicks would not make this trade if they didn't think he was going to be 100..

there were time last season when we had 5 guys on the floor that had the ability to shoot the 3..We made teams look silly trying to defend us..somebody was constantly left open, but it all started with ball movement..

I can't believe we went away from that in the playoffs..smh

The arm was supposed to be healed by the end of last season, so I think he's good to go.

there was no reason to rush him back, they weren't making the PO and he was on the trade market..

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Andrea "Il Mago" (The Magician) Bargnani Appreciation

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