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knickstorrents
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6/30/2013  7:54 PM
A soft big man who gets injured? Our front office blows.
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6/30/2013  7:56 PM
Really not a bad asset to have. The only problem I have is the 1st rounder. Oh well
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6/30/2013  7:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2013  7:58 PM
the dude averaged 21pts per game 3 years ago....19pts per 2 years ago....last season he barely played and didn't fit the youth movement/coach....so he's a knick....if he can hit his career average of 15pts per, than this is a steal for us!!!
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6/30/2013  7:58 PM
EnySpree wrote:the dude averaged 21pts per game 3 years ago....19pts per 2 years ago....last season he barely played and didn't fit the youth movement/coach....so he's a knick....if he can hit his season average of 15pts per, than this is a steal for us!!!

I agree. The first rounder still stings though
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6/30/2013  7:59 PM
I Love This trade! Legit 2nd option for Melo!
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6/30/2013  7:59 PM
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TeamBall wrote:So is he gonna come off the bench? I remember reading that Woodson is committed to having Melo be the 4.

I bet they both start. Melo will be the 3 but really be playing 4 on offense. This is best case for Woodson as he can play Melo as a 4 on offense without getting beat up trying to defend big men a lot. Having a true stretch 4 was always the solution to the Melo at the 3 or 4 debate.


Thats exactly what Im hoping. Guess we'll get a better idea of what Woodsons thinking after the rest of the moves are pulled off.
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6/30/2013  8:00 PM
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Clean wrote:The Knicks should have a no trade rule for that Massai guy. He always kicks our butts in trades. Now that I think about it we get our butt's kicked in most of our trades.
Everyone kicks our butts in trades. From the bulls to the nuggets and now to the crappy raptors.
Not this one. What did you think the Knicks would get for two guys that could be waived and a first rounder?
So you think we kicked butt in this trade lol. Let me tell you i have seen many raptor fans genuinely thank us for taking a guy they were gonna amnesty. They got 3 future picks for him. He is a former number 1 pick taht has never lived up to that, also his motor has come into question and his health is a major issue

He isn't coming to ny with the expectations that he is the franchise player. The guys is a good player and the Knicks gave up dirt for him. The raps have Fields and Novak on their new contracts. If you count the second rounders as big losses I disagree. This was a great move. Knicks were sending out their lottery pick and an unprotected pick in 2010 and people were less upset. Its funny how things change. Walsh was rumored to be looking into including the sixth pick with ZBO just to get out from under that contract.
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6/30/2013  8:00 PM
EnySpree wrote:the dude averaged 21pts per game 3 years ago....19pts per 2 years ago....last season he barely played and didn't fit the youth movement/coach....so he's a knick....if he can hit his season average of 15pts per, than this is a steal for us!!!

I agree. There are only certain types of players that will work with Melo. You've got to have a stretch 4 who can score enough to draw his man away and allow Melo to play the 4 closer to the basket. People need to at least realize that Bargs is still capable of scoring 20 a night. It's not like he forgot how to shoot. We also can't worry about picks down the road at this point. We need to improve this team for RIGHT NOW!!!
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6/30/2013  8:04 PM
nixluva wrote:
EnySpree wrote:the dude averaged 21pts per game 3 years ago....19pts per 2 years ago....last season he barely played and didn't fit the youth movement/coach....so he's a knick....if he can hit his season average of 15pts per, than this is a steal for us!!!

I agree. There are only certain types of players that will work with Melo. You've got to have a stretch 4 who can score enough to draw his man away and allow Melo to play the 4 closer to the basket. People need to at least realize that Bargs is still capable of scoring 20 a night. It's not like he forgot how to shoot. We also can't worry about picks down the road at this point. We need to improve this team for RIGHT NOW!!!

Yes.....we aren't in build for the future mode....we are in win now while Melo is here mode. Bargnani's talent fits nice next to Melo and Chandler ith amare off the bench....I can totally see the Knicks now making a backcourt change...

this is very exciting

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6/30/2013  8:04 PM
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nyk4ever wrote:maybe DJ will be a knicks fan again

so funny how we all instantly thought the same lol

lol you know it bro. we need our boy back!

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6/30/2013  8:10 PM
EnySpree wrote:
nixluva wrote:
EnySpree wrote:the dude averaged 21pts per game 3 years ago....19pts per 2 years ago....last season he barely played and didn't fit the youth movement/coach....so he's a knick....if he can hit his season average of 15pts per, than this is a steal for us!!!

I agree. There are only certain types of players that will work with Melo. You've got to have a stretch 4 who can score enough to draw his man away and allow Melo to play the 4 closer to the basket. People need to at least realize that Bargs is still capable of scoring 20 a night. It's not like he forgot how to shoot. We also can't worry about picks down the road at this point. We need to improve this team for RIGHT NOW!!!

Yes.....we aren't in build for the future mode....we are in win now while Melo is here mode. Bargnani's talent fits nice next to Melo and Chandler ith amare off the bench....I can totally see the Knicks now making a backcourt change...

this is very exciting

win and melo in the same sentence is hilarious..

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6/30/2013  8:11 PM
i don't think bargs is a bad player at all, but here we go again giving up a first round pick.. lol.. typical...
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6/30/2013  8:13 PM
solid trade, at least were getting a consistent rotation player, he's a really good fit for this system and i'm almost sure TYSONs next
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6/30/2013  8:15 PM
Anything on the Chandler trade?
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6/30/2013  8:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2013  8:20 PM
This looks bad IMO. I'd be OK with the Bargs - Novak, Camby swap because of the potential upside with Bargs but we shouldn't be giving up any picks (1st or 2nd round). Bargani's defensive #s are so bad that I think we should be getting a pick.
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6/30/2013  8:16 PM
This is more than a role player. At best this is a 25 point 7-8 rebound scorer. What we need Andrea to do is focus on BOTH in and out. He really started to stay way to far out on the perimeter back from injury. He can score 20 again in a higher temp offense--thats a good player. To me this also end sJ R smith with Amare going to 6th man
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6/30/2013  8:18 PM
Knicksfan wrote:Anything on the Chandler trade?

as of this second I would be ok with keeping Chandler....Bargs, Melo, Chandler, Felton and Shump is pretty darn good if everyone plays the way they should....the Knicks are talking about point guards all up in Feltons face too....who knows maybe the knicks end up upgrading both spots this summer

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6/30/2013  8:20 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:This looks bad IMO. I'd be OK with the Bargs - Novak, Camby swap because of the potential upside with Bargs but we shouldn't be giving up any picks (1st or 2nd round).

True but the 2016 swap picks make it less of a crime. As we seen this year several team bought into the late 1st round. Supposedly he came back from his elbow injury and calf injury earlier than he should have. A change of scenery maybe good.
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6/30/2013  8:22 PM
BRIGGS wrote:This is more than a role player. At best this is a 25 point 7-8 rebound scorer. What we need Andrea to do is focus on BOTH in and out. He really started to stay way to far out on the perimeter back from injury. He can score 20 again in a higher temp offense--thats a good player. To me this also end sJ R smith with Amare going to 6th man

the bold: while i think he can score (past 2 years... hurt), his scoring went up the most once bosh left. he is now going to a team where we will have to see if what types of chances he gets. for rebounding, i wouldnt count on any more than what he has always done, very little.

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6/30/2013  8:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2013  8:25 PM
Raptors fans are lighting fire works right now, barg has been brutal shooting the ball and lives on the perimeter, doesn't rebound( a glaring weakness of ours) and is a suspect defender..This traded really could have waited until we figure out whats up with JR and Cope.

JR is going to demand to start is they want him for cheap, and I think he should, i like shump of the bench

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