RonRon wrote:he is not leaving because YOU said so?
he can opt out in 2014, so we can still get good value off him if we decided to go this route...
I am not saying we MUST do it but this is something management/Dolan must decide, if they are willing to pay him a Joe Johnson like deal to keep him if he opts out 1 year early, which in would not allow us to go after the FA class of 2015

Either of these scenario's would cripple the franchise, however, if Melo would stay and sign a 1 year deal at a MUCH LOWER salary in order for NY to build a team around him with 2015 FA class, Dolan can choose to compensate his pay with a Joe Johnson like deal after 2016
For this to happen, I would need Melo to let go of his opt out clause in his contract for 2014, because he has the ability to have too much leverage over the franchise

I don't have a problem if Dolan wants Melo to be next Joe Johnson or Allan Houston, I have a problem with it if it affects the ability to sign 2015 FA class...
I can care less if we surround ourselves with the talent/score needed to be LEGIT CONTENDERS and not FAKERS for the next 5 years after 2015-2020

That is just me, If i was Knick's management I would not allow Melo to have that leverage on the franchise, call him in, and ask if he wants to be the face of the franchise, retiring as a Knick, or not
If he does not want to let go of his opt out ability in 2014 *like D12 did in Orlando*, there should be NO HESITATION on what must be done for the sake on the franchise and the next 6 years
Getting back as many picks, assets, and players that can turn in to more picks should be easily the road to go if it is going to always be about him and NOT the team/franchise
We did what we could to acquire him and the inability to surround him with the talent needed is because of the price we didn't have to pay to acquire him, had he said "I AM NOT GOING TO SIGN AN EXTENSION TO ANYWHERE BUT NYK's" 2 and half seasons's ago.....

He is not leaving because Melo is highly motivated by money and we can offer him the most money. This the reason he wanted to come to New York and why he demanded it be by trade instead of through free agency; the later benefiting the prospects of us building a more competent team around him. A leopard doesn't change his spots, so there is no need to worry about him leaving us.

And correct me if I'm wrong but Melo stands to earn more money by NOT opting out and re-signing from that figure, no? If that's the case then we really have no reason to preemptively do anything unless he thinks we'll move on from him in 2015. And if he leaves in 2014, then we'll have an amazing pick in 2015 to join our free agent haul in that offseason. Again, I see no downside to our position moving forward AT ALL.

VCoug wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

RonRon wrote:he is not leaving because YOU said so?
he can opt out in 2014, so we can still get good value off him if we decided to go this route...
I am not saying we MUST do it but this is something management/Dolan must decide, if they are willing to pay him a Joe Johnson like deal to keep him if he opts out 1 year early, which in would not allow us to go after the FA class of 2015

Either of these scenario's would cripple the franchise, however, if Melo would stay and sign a 1 year deal at a MUCH LOWER salary in order for NY to build a team around him with 2015 FA class, Dolan can choose to compensate his pay with a Joe Johnson like deal after 2016
For this to happen, I would need Melo to let go of his opt out clause in his contract for 2014, because he has the ability to have too much leverage over the franchise

I don't have a problem if Dolan wants Melo to be next Joe Johnson or Allan Houston, I have a problem with it if it affects the ability to sign 2015 FA class...
I can care less if we surround ourselves with the talent/score needed to be LEGIT CONTENDERS and not FAKERS for the next 5 years after 2015-2020

That is just me, If i was Knick's management I would not allow Melo to have that leverage on the franchise, call him in, and ask if he wants to be the face of the franchise, retiring as a Knick, or not
If he does not want to let go of his opt out ability in 2014 *like D12 did in Orlando*, there should be NO HESITATION on what must be done for the sake on the franchise and the next 6 years
Getting back as many picks, assets, and players that can turn in to more picks should be easily the road to go if it is going to always be about him and NOT the team/franchise
We did what we could to acquire him and the inability to surround him with the talent needed is because of the price we didn't have to pay to acquire him, had he said "I AM NOT GOING TO SIGN AN EXTENSION TO ANYWHERE BUT NYK's" 2 and half seasons's ago.....

He is not leaving because Melo is highly motivated by money and we can offer him the most money. This the reason he wanted to come to New York and why he demanded it be by trade instead of through free agency; the later benefiting the prospects of us building a more competent team around him. A leopard doesn't change his spots, so there is no need to worry about him leaving us.

And correct me if I'm wrong but Melo stands to earn more money by NOT opting out and re-signing from that figure, no? If that's the case then we really have no reason to preemptively do anything unless he thinks we'll move on from him in 2015. And if he leaves in 2014, then we'll have an amazing pick in 2015 to join our free agent haul in that offseason. Again, I see no downside to our position moving forward AT ALL.

I've read the same thing about opting out, that he and any other player with an option actually make more money by not opting out.

Let's just say, we are unable to keep JR Smith, Kmart, Copeland
Melo say in 2014, wins Scoring Title again in a lower seed with all teams in East healthy and improved

In the play offs, history repeats itself in 1st round or 2nd, Melo is ISO heavy as Woodson is predicates his OFFENSE on
We get knocked out, outmatched, and outcoached, MELO OPT's out, "Either pay me what I am worth for security or I will goto a team that I can contend with at the price you want me to resign for"

What will you do if you are Dolan and/or Grunweld?

You pay him, you cannot build a team that can contend and eventually might not even make play offs as the team continues to age and cannot improve with the salary cap issues....
You don't pay him, he walks to another team, and you get nothing, as you will have to surrender your better draft pick to Denver for the cost of Melo...DOUBLE WHAMMMY!

My whole point is I DO NOT WANT TO BE PUT IN THIS POSITION

I root for Melo as a Knick, even when I don't believe in him, and find ways for him to be successful
However, I am a Knick fan NOT a MELO FAN, NOT A MELO HATOR either because I don't believe in his abilities at the cost of the price we paid, we cannot build a team around him with what was left to be a contender...

I think for Melo who made a lot of money already, his best chance in building a team around him is to take much less, just say around 5-10m with a player option opt out in 2016
He recruits the players needed to form our big 3/4 or whatever, then Dolan rewards him the following year as he opts out....

Otherwise, trade him at good value next year while collecting as many assets/draft picks and using CAP SPACE to lure FA's in 2015 together, while building a foundation of some core players with Iman Shumpert, signing good deals, and trading for more assets

RonRon wrote:

VCoug wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

RonRon wrote:he is not leaving because YOU said so?
he can opt out in 2014, so we can still get good value off him if we decided to go this route...
I am not saying we MUST do it but this is something management/Dolan must decide, if they are willing to pay him a Joe Johnson like deal to keep him if he opts out 1 year early, which in would not allow us to go after the FA class of 2015

Either of these scenario's would cripple the franchise, however, if Melo would stay and sign a 1 year deal at a MUCH LOWER salary in order for NY to build a team around him with 2015 FA class, Dolan can choose to compensate his pay with a Joe Johnson like deal after 2016
For this to happen, I would need Melo to let go of his opt out clause in his contract for 2014, because he has the ability to have too much leverage over the franchise

I don't have a problem if Dolan wants Melo to be next Joe Johnson or Allan Houston, I have a problem with it if it affects the ability to sign 2015 FA class...
I can care less if we surround ourselves with the talent/score needed to be LEGIT CONTENDERS and not FAKERS for the next 5 years after 2015-2020

That is just me, If i was Knick's management I would not allow Melo to have that leverage on the franchise, call him in, and ask if he wants to be the face of the franchise, retiring as a Knick, or not
If he does not want to let go of his opt out ability in 2014 *like D12 did in Orlando*, there should be NO HESITATION on what must be done for the sake on the franchise and the next 6 years
Getting back as many picks, assets, and players that can turn in to more picks should be easily the road to go if it is going to always be about him and NOT the team/franchise
We did what we could to acquire him and the inability to surround him with the talent needed is because of the price we didn't have to pay to acquire him, had he said "I AM NOT GOING TO SIGN AN EXTENSION TO ANYWHERE BUT NYK's" 2 and half seasons's ago.....

He is not leaving because Melo is highly motivated by money and we can offer him the most money. This the reason he wanted to come to New York and why he demanded it be by trade instead of through free agency; the later benefiting the prospects of us building a more competent team around him. A leopard doesn't change his spots, so there is no need to worry about him leaving us.

And correct me if I'm wrong but Melo stands to earn more money by NOT opting out and re-signing from that figure, no? If that's the case then we really have no reason to preemptively do anything unless he thinks we'll move on from him in 2015. And if he leaves in 2014, then we'll have an amazing pick in 2015 to join our free agent haul in that offseason. Again, I see no downside to our position moving forward AT ALL.

I've read the same thing about opting out, that he and any other player with an option actually make more money by not opting out.

Let's just say, we are unable to keep JR Smith, Kmart, Copeland
Melo say in 2014, wins Scoring Title again in a lower seed with all teams in East healthy and improved

In the play offs, history repeats itself in 1st round or 2nd, Melo is ISO heavy as Woodson is predicates his OFFENSE on
We get knocked out, outmatched, and outcoached, MELO OPT's out, "Either pay me what I am worth for security or I will goto a team that I can contend with at the price you want me to resign for"

What will you do if you are Dolan and/or Grunweld?

You pay him, you cannot build a team that can contend and eventually might not even make play offs as the team continues to age and cannot improve with the salary cap issues....
You don't pay him, he walks to another team, and you get nothing, as you will have to surrender your better draft pick to Denver for the cost of Melo...DOUBLE WHAMMMY!

My whole point is I DO NOT WANT TO BE PUT IN THIS POSITION

I root for Melo as a Knick, even when I don't believe in him, and find ways for him to be successful
However, I am a Knick fan NOT a MELO FAN, NOT A MELO HATOR either because I don't believe in his abilities at the cost of the price we paid, we cannot build a team around him with what was left to be a contender...

I think for Melo who made a lot of money already, his best chance in building a team around him is to take much less, just say around 5-10m with a player option opt out in 2016
He recruits the players needed to form our big 3/4 or whatever, then Dolan rewards him the following year as he opts out....

Otherwise, trade him at good value next year while collecting as many assets/draft picks and using CAP SPACE to lure FA's in 2015 together, while building a foundation of some core players with Iman Shumpert, signing good deals, and trading for more assets

Again, if Melo walks in 2014, is that such a bad thing? We'd become a lottery team with a lottery pick, armed with $65 million in cap space in an offseason headlined by free agents Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Marc Gasol and Paul George. We have a realistic chance of signing any of those guys and the financial resources to bring in 3 of them TOGETHER. We're in the best possible situation at the moment because we can continue to try to build around Melo until we don't want to anymore.

NardDogNation wrote:

RonRon wrote:

VCoug wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

RonRon wrote:he is not leaving because YOU said so?
he can opt out in 2014, so we can still get good value off him if we decided to go this route...
I am not saying we MUST do it but this is something management/Dolan must decide, if they are willing to pay him a Joe Johnson like deal to keep him if he opts out 1 year early, which in would not allow us to go after the FA class of 2015

Either of these scenario's would cripple the franchise, however, if Melo would stay and sign a 1 year deal at a MUCH LOWER salary in order for NY to build a team around him with 2015 FA class, Dolan can choose to compensate his pay with a Joe Johnson like deal after 2016
For this to happen, I would need Melo to let go of his opt out clause in his contract for 2014, because he has the ability to have too much leverage over the franchise

I don't have a problem if Dolan wants Melo to be next Joe Johnson or Allan Houston, I have a problem with it if it affects the ability to sign 2015 FA class...
I can care less if we surround ourselves with the talent/score needed to be LEGIT CONTENDERS and not FAKERS for the next 5 years after 2015-2020

That is just me, If i was Knick's management I would not allow Melo to have that leverage on the franchise, call him in, and ask if he wants to be the face of the franchise, retiring as a Knick, or not
If he does not want to let go of his opt out ability in 2014 *like D12 did in Orlando*, there should be NO HESITATION on what must be done for the sake on the franchise and the next 6 years
Getting back as many picks, assets, and players that can turn in to more picks should be easily the road to go if it is going to always be about him and NOT the team/franchise
We did what we could to acquire him and the inability to surround him with the talent needed is because of the price we didn't have to pay to acquire him, had he said "I AM NOT GOING TO SIGN AN EXTENSION TO ANYWHERE BUT NYK's" 2 and half seasons's ago.....

He is not leaving because Melo is highly motivated by money and we can offer him the most money. This the reason he wanted to come to New York and why he demanded it be by trade instead of through free agency; the later benefiting the prospects of us building a more competent team around him. A leopard doesn't change his spots, so there is no need to worry about him leaving us.

And correct me if I'm wrong but Melo stands to earn more money by NOT opting out and re-signing from that figure, no? If that's the case then we really have no reason to preemptively do anything unless he thinks we'll move on from him in 2015. And if he leaves in 2014, then we'll have an amazing pick in 2015 to join our free agent haul in that offseason. Again, I see no downside to our position moving forward AT ALL.

I've read the same thing about opting out, that he and any other player with an option actually make more money by not opting out.

Let's just say, we are unable to keep JR Smith, Kmart, Copeland
Melo say in 2014, wins Scoring Title again in a lower seed with all teams in East healthy and improved

In the play offs, history repeats itself in 1st round or 2nd, Melo is ISO heavy as Woodson is predicates his OFFENSE on
We get knocked out, outmatched, and outcoached, MELO OPT's out, "Either pay me what I am worth for security or I will goto a team that I can contend with at the price you want me to resign for"

What will you do if you are Dolan and/or Grunweld?

You pay him, you cannot build a team that can contend and eventually might not even make play offs as the team continues to age and cannot improve with the salary cap issues....
You don't pay him, he walks to another team, and you get nothing, as you will have to surrender your better draft pick to Denver for the cost of Melo...DOUBLE WHAMMMY!

My whole point is I DO NOT WANT TO BE PUT IN THIS POSITION

I root for Melo as a Knick, even when I don't believe in him, and find ways for him to be successful
However, I am a Knick fan NOT a MELO FAN, NOT A MELO HATOR either because I don't believe in his abilities at the cost of the price we paid, we cannot build a team around him with what was left to be a contender...

I think for Melo who made a lot of money already, his best chance in building a team around him is to take much less, just say around 5-10m with a player option opt out in 2016
He recruits the players needed to form our big 3/4 or whatever, then Dolan rewards him the following year as he opts out....

Otherwise, trade him at good value next year while collecting as many assets/draft picks and using CAP SPACE to lure FA's in 2015 together, while building a foundation of some core players with Iman Shumpert, signing good deals, and trading for more assets

Again, if Melo walks in 2014, is that such a bad thing? We'd become a lottery team with a lottery pick, armed with $65 million in cap space in an offseason headed by free agents such as Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Marc Gasol and Paul George. We have a realistic chance of signing any of those guys and the financial resources to bring in 3 of them TOGETHER. We're in the best possible situation at the moment because we can continue to try to build around Melo until we don't want to anymore.

any TOP tier rookie contract is going to be get their extension unless they hit a huge injury risk or wall
They cannot risk leaving the money on the table during their rookie years, such as Irving, Rubio, Paul George

So in 2015 we can tank and get 1 draft pick, 1 draft pick, vs the multiple draft picks we can get by moving Melo one year early JUST CUZ he doesn't want to terminate his option to opt out? If he is not terminating it, it means 2 things...

either he is leaving for NOTHING

or

he wants to grab NYK by the balls and say pay me or else....

Either of which would could be avoided by trading him or having in terminate the opt out

You are saying we get 1 draft pick vs MULTIPLE DRAFT PICKS that we can still get for MR. SCORING TITLE of the year
Of which we still get in addition to the draft picks that I think we should trade him for if he doesn't terminate that opt out

Do I not make any sense or are you STILL NOT GETTING IT?
AT&T "MORE IS BETTER THAN LESS BECAUSE...."

NardDogNation wrote:

RonRon wrote:

callmened wrote:but at age 30, i can picture melo and many other stars who havent won..getting a midlife bball crisis...therefore opting out to sign for less money to play for a team where he can win. most likely, were not gonna improve next season (cuz Drose, Granger and ROndo comeback & we cant make major moves)...im sure hell get frustrated, think about his "legacy" and consider leaving for less money...

as a knicks fan and a melo fan, i wouldnt mind that because
- with our salary cap hell, we DONT have the assets to build a good supporting cast. i would understand if he would leave to go chase a ring (all the stars do it now)
- we can drop 23mill off the books and rebuild

That is my point, we are 1 season away from all of this, I am just saying this is something management/Dolan MUST consider
You giving leverage to Melo is only giving the opportunity for him to screw the franchise at our own expense
If you are serious about staying in NYK, terminate the opt out, if not we have to do what we have to do....

We do not need the drama and face what D12 is doing to the Laker's as we speak
Why didn't OKC wait to trade Harden?

Because the leverage goes to Harden's favor instead of the franchise as the deadline approaches...
So with that said, if Melo DOES NOT TERMINATE his OPT OUT in 2014, he has to go for the benefit of the franchise that he can still bring back good value, and we get to ship him out West who is not our contender...

Even if Melo wants to walk in 2014, you do understand that he'd need us to sign and trade him to maximize his earnings, right?

No, by then he would have figured out, that by signing to a team rather than trading for him, it would increase his chances of winning and building a contender!
And he does not have to stay in NYK for another year with STAT and CHandler, with the team that cannot improve because of the trade/cap space

That will likely be his last contract in having a huge impact on a team to win a title

RonRon wrote:any TOP tier rookie contract is going to be get their extension unless they hit a huge injury risk or wall
They cannot risk leaving the money on the table during their rookie years, such as Irving, Rubio, Paul George

So in 2015 we can tank and get 1 draft pick, 1 draft pick, vs the multiple draft picks we can get by moving Melo one year early JUST CUZ he doesn't want to terminate his option to opt out? If he is not terminating it, it means 2 things...

either he is leaving for NOTHING

or

he wants to grab NYK by the balls and say pay me or else....

Either of which would could be avoided by trading him or having in terminate the opt out

You are saying we get 1 draft pick vs MULTIPLE DRAFT PICKS that we can still get for MR. SCORING TITLE of the year
Of which we still get in addition to the draft picks that I think we should trade him for if he doesn't terminate that opt out

Do I not make any sense or are you STILL NOT GETTING IT?
AT&T "MORE IS BETTER THAN LESS BECAUSE...."

All of the free agents I mentioned have a motive to leave, which is why I'm so encouraged by the prospect of them joining the Knicks:

1.)Kyrie Irving is currently a member of one of the worst run franchises in NBA history. Name me a draft pick of the LeBron era/legacy still in the NBA today. Exactly my point. Irving is good but not LeBron good and will not be able to get that team into the playoffs, which should help hasten his transition back to the NY/NJ area, which is where he is from.

2.)Paul George might find himself in a James Harden type situation. The Pacers are not a big money team and they have several key players either due for an extension or have been extended before him. Needless to say, Indiana might not have the money to keep him and if they do, it will come at the expense of key members of the team. And if the Pacers have to start letting other guys walk, what incentive would George have to stay there and compete on a lesser team? Hello New York!

3.) The Grizzlies are good now but what are they going to look like when Randolph loses whatever footspeed he has to stay in front of defenders and his ability to get his shot off? Yeah, I can see Marc wanting to leave once that happens.

4.) Kevin Love is as good as ours. As much as the Wolves fired David Kahn, that team isn't much outside of Rubio, Pekovic and Adelman. Pekovic is a free agent and might leave this summer while Rick Adelman is unlikely to return because of his wife's health. They can suffer a deathblow this very offseason and I doubt they'd be able to get their house in order in the 2 years before Love's a free agent.

Of the four free agents mentioned, I think Irving and Love are very probable "gets" for us, so what is the point in worrying about Melo leaving?

Juxtapose that next to your draconian plan, and what you're suggesting sounds unnecessary. Even if Melo does want to leave, he'll need us to sign and trade him to whatever team he wants to go to. In all likelihood, that haul would be better than a 14th pick and some 2nd rounders in one of the worst drafts in years. Its just a bad idea to me and doesn't make much sense.

RonRon wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

RonRon wrote:

callmened wrote:but at age 30, i can picture melo and many other stars who havent won..getting a midlife bball crisis...therefore opting out to sign for less money to play for a team where he can win. most likely, were not gonna improve next season (cuz Drose, Granger and ROndo comeback & we cant make major moves)...im sure hell get frustrated, think about his "legacy" and consider leaving for less money...

as a knicks fan and a melo fan, i wouldnt mind that because
- with our salary cap hell, we DONT have the assets to build a good supporting cast. i would understand if he would leave to go chase a ring (all the stars do it now)
- we can drop 23mill off the books and rebuild

That is my point, we are 1 season away from all of this, I am just saying this is something management/Dolan MUST consider
You giving leverage to Melo is only giving the opportunity for him to screw the franchise at our own expense
If you are serious about staying in NYK, terminate the opt out, if not we have to do what we have to do....

We do not need the drama and face what D12 is doing to the Laker's as we speak
Why didn't OKC wait to trade Harden?

Because the leverage goes to Harden's favor instead of the franchise as the deadline approaches...
So with that said, if Melo DOES NOT TERMINATE his OPT OUT in 2014, he has to go for the benefit of the franchise that he can still bring back good value, and we get to ship him out West who is not our contender...

Even if Melo wants to walk in 2014, you do understand that he'd need us to sign and trade him to maximize his earnings, right?

No, by then he would have figured out, that by signing to a team rather than trading for him, it would increase his chances of winning and building a contender!
And he does not have to stay in NYK for another year with STAT and CHandler, with the team that cannot improve because of the trade/cap space

Melo's made no public claim or hint about wanting out, so again, why make some preemptive move when there is no inkling for a basis of one? I might've agreed with you if we had a repeat of last season but this season we managed to secure the no.2 seed in the east, 6th best record in the league and got bounced from a very competitive 2nd round series. All of this improvement when we also allegedly "(could) not improve because of the trade/cap space". Grunwald's a resourceful guy, so let's see what he does before we trade away our franchise player for the "Thomas Robinson" of this draft.

NardDogNation wrote:

RonRon wrote:any TOP tier rookie contract is going to be get their extension unless they hit a huge injury risk or wall
They cannot risk leaving the money on the table during their rookie years, such as Irving, Rubio, Paul George

So in 2015 we can tank and get 1 draft pick, 1 draft pick, vs the multiple draft picks we can get by moving Melo one year early JUST CUZ he doesn't want to terminate his option to opt out? If he is not terminating it, it means 2 things...

either he is leaving for NOTHING

or

he wants to grab NYK by the balls and say pay me or else....

Either of which would could be avoided by trading him or having in terminate the opt out

You are saying we get 1 draft pick vs MULTIPLE DRAFT PICKS that we can still get for MR. SCORING TITLE of the year
Of which we still get in addition to the draft picks that I think we should trade him for if he doesn't terminate that opt out

Do I not make any sense or are you STILL NOT GETTING IT?
AT&T "MORE IS BETTER THAN LESS BECAUSE...."

All of the free agents I mentioned have a motive to leave, which is why I'm so encouraged by the prospect of them joining the Knicks:

1.)Kyrie Irving is currently a member of one of the worst run franchises in NBA history. Name me a draft pick of the LeBron era/legacy still in the NBA today. Exactly my point. Irving is good but not LeBron good and will not be able to get that team into the playoffs, which should help hasten his transition back to the NY/NJ area, which is where he is from.

2.)Paul George might find himself in a James Harden type situation. The Pacers are not a big money team and they have several key players either due for an extension or have been extended before him. Needless to say, Indiana might not have the money to keep him and if they do, it will come at the expense of key members of the team. And if the Pacers have to start letting other guys walk, what incentive would George have to stay there and compete on a lesser team? Hello New York!

3.) The Grizzlies are good now but what are they going to look like when Randolph loses whatever footspeed he has to stay in front of defenders and his ability to get his shot off? Yeah, I can see Marc wanting to leave once that happens.

4.) Kevin Love is as good as ours. As much as the Wolves fired David Kahn, that team isn't much outside of Rubio, Pekovic and Adelman. Pekovic is a free agent and might leave this summer while Rick Adelman is unlikely to return because of his wife's health. They can suffer a deathblow this very offseason and I doubt they'd be able to get their house in order in the 2 years before Love's a free agent.

Of the four free agents mentioned, I think Irving and Love are very probable "gets" for us, so what is the point in worrying about Melo leaving?

Juxtapose that next to your draconian plan, and what you're suggesting sounds unnecessary. Even if Melo does want to leave, he'll need us to sign and trade him to whatever team he wants to go to. In all likelihood, that haul would be better than a 14th pick and some 2nd rounders in one of the worst drafts in years. Its just a bad idea to me and doesn't make much sense.

Kyrie Irving will be a restricted free agent, as much as he might want to there's literally 0 chance that he goes anywhere in free agency because Cleveland will match any offer.

Paul George will also be a restricted free agent and he won't be going anywhere either. Indy only has $30M in guaranteed contracts that Summer and Granger's contract expires next season; all Indy has to do is not resign Granger and they'll be fine.