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NUPE
Posts: 21221 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/29/2012 Member: #4205 |
12/11/2012 4:55 PM
I don't even see why Ewing is relevant to this discussion.
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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
12/11/2012 11:19 PM
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
12/12/2012 12:13 AM LAST EDITED: 12/12/2012 12:13 AM
Im just wondering did Kidd get his kiss back from JR when hit the game winner tonight.
 We are a team that shares and cares now!!!! "Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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GodNa7ion
Posts: 20109 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/7/2012 Member: #4269 |
12/12/2012 1:47 AM
Carmelo is either #1 or #2 right now with Durant, its going to be crazy when we get Stoudemire/Shumpert/Camby back because he can do more things like rebound and get some assists while still scoring easier...........this is the year
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
12/12/2012 2:07 AM LAST EDITED: 12/12/2012 2:19 AM
This is getting pretty old. I should just stop responding to Melo haters and simply enjoy our run. But with all that said...
knickstorrents wrote:I am also a wounded knick fan.True Knick fans aren't wounded as of right now. Not when we're 16-5 overall for the first time since the 1993-1994 season. 19 years to be exact. We're also the current first seed of the Eastern Conference. And none of this was possible without Carmelo Anthony. knickstorrents wrote:A diehard Melo hater.Good for you. knickstorrents wrote:Maybe it is because he reminds me of all the losing ways we had in the past?How exactly does Melo remind you of all the "losing ways" we've had during the 2000's? At least make some sense. Syracuse University has landed 35 NCAA Tournament appearances dating back to 1957, but yet only have 1 National Championship. Thanks to Carmelo Anthony's Freshman season of 2003 (NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player). It only took Melo one season to do what this college program has never done dating back to 1957. Losing ways in regards to Melo? Explain. How exactly does Melo remind you of our losing ways of the 2000's? Because the last time I checked, the Denver Nuggets as a franchise missed the postseason during 9 consecutive seasons prior to the drafting of Melo. 9 long years of losing basketball. But yet after selecting Melo with the 3rd overall pick during the 2003 NBA draft, Melo then went on to lead his Nuggets franchise to 8 consecutive seasons of playoff basketball. 9 losing seasons prior to the drafting of Melo followed by 8 consecutive seasons of winning basketball after the drafting of Melo. Not a coincidence either. Melo changed the culture of their franchise while turning them into a winning franchise despite the fact you've compared him to the Knicks of the 2000's in regards to "losing ways". Melo has never seen a losing (below .500) season and Melo has never missed the playoffs. Losing ways in regards to Melo? Please explain. knickstorrents wrote:You have to admit aside from this season, character wise he was always suspect.Now you're digging. Attacking this mans character? He graduated from High School as a kid and went to Syracuse University as a young man. Melo never became a product of his environment either. When Anthony turned eight, his family moved to Baltimore, where he honed not only his athletic skills, but his survival skills. Kenny Minor, one of Anthony's childhood friends, said, "from drugs, to killings, to anything you can name that goes on in the roughest parts of town, we've seen and witnessed hands on. Those are the things that teach you toughness and keep you mentally focused on your goals." Kenny Minor stated. Would you still like to attack his character? Funny how you failed to mention the fact that Melo grew up without a father. His dad passed away when Melo was only two years of age. Never had a father but yet became a loving father in his own right. His sister died in 2010. In 2004, Anthony became engaged to La La. Their son was born in 2007. Anthony and La La became married in 2010. This man seems like both a loving husband and loving father, but yet, you're telling us to "admit" that his character has been "suspect"? How many times has he beat woman? What about raped them? What about been to jail and/or prison due to drugs and/or especially violence? I rest my case. knickstorrents wrote:The iso style of play, playing basketball the wrong way, etc all remind me of the losing culture and teams of the Knicks in the past 20+ years. Why aren't you blaming George Karl for Melo's ISO ball and/or "playing the wrong way"? Lets be honest here, Melo was only in Denver for 8 years. George Karl on the other hand? 25 years as a head coach with zero championships. Karl as a head coach has a career losing postseason record of only 78-101. Seems to me as if coach Karl was the one holding Melo back, not the other way around, because under coach Woodson? Melo is performing on an MVP level while leading his Knicks team to current greatness (or close to it). Also, how long have you been a Knicks fan? I only ask because, 20+ years ago the Knicks were enjoying our golden years under Starks, Oakley and Ewing. We were 16-5 19 years ago from today. That was back in 1993-1994. The Knicks enjoyed lots of success throughout the entire 90's. So, which 20 years are you talking about? knickstorrents wrote:I just hate that it seemed history repeated itself when we mortgaged the farm to get him.Really? "mortgaged the farm"? Where is Eddy Curry now? He's a free agent after eating his way out of the league. Raymond Felton has returned, but where is Anthony Randolph as of right now now? He's Denver's 13th man off the bench while only averaging 6.3 minutes per game. Where is the Russian rookie project in Timofey Mozgov? He's the Nuggets 3rd string Center behind both Kosta Koufos and JaVale McGee. Where is Wilson Chandler as of right now? The last time I checked, he only played 6 games last season and has only played 4 games here in 2012-2013 due to injury. He's still injured. And during the 6 games he's played here in 2012-2013 he's only averaged 6.5 points per game off an awful .313 field goal percentage (%). That only leaves Danilo Gallinari, unless you believe that we "mortgaged the farm" for the likes of Anthony Randolph, Wilson Chandler, Eddy Curry and Timofey Mozgov. So once again, that leaves Danilo Gallinari. Are you really trying to state that we "mortgaged the farm" for Danilo Gallinari? Because when in reality, we traded Gallo for the greatest Knicks talent since Patrick Ewing himself (key word being 'since'). Mortgaged the farm during the trade for Melo? Funny, because the last time I checked the Knicks are currently 16-5, 11 games above .500 and first place of the Eastern Conference (with Carmelo Anthomy). The Nuggets on the other hand are 11-11, .500 and only 8th place of the Western Conference (without Carmelo Anthony). It seems to me as if Denver was the only who mortgaged their farm and/or future once they traded Carmelo Anthony and/or once Melo forced his way out of Denver (for the Knicks). knickstorrents wrote:To me it was another example of a dysfunctional organization mortgaging its future on a player that was only interested in his own payday.Please explain. I just broke down our trade for you pretty much piece by piece. Now please expian (with in-depth detail) how the Knicks "mortgaged its future during the trade for Melo". Seems to me as if we're on the rise while Denver is on the decline (dating back to the trade). knickstorrents wrote:The upside to that whole trade were the players we got for 'free'. Kidd, Chandler, Rasheed Wallace, JR Smith (though I hate JR Smith as a player he has his uses). Without those players this team is at a dead end, just like the organization that runs it. You're wrong as wrong could be. A.) We don't land Tyson Chandler (during a trade) without using our amnesty clause on Chauncey Billups. We landed Billups during the Melo trade, you do know that... Right? Without the Melo trade, there is no Tyson Chandler. You're also wrong in regards to J.R Smith. J.R Smith and Carmelo Anthony were teammates in Denver for many of years. J.R Smith came here to win alongisde of Carmelo Anthony. If J.R Smith (himself) never believed in Melo the player/person? He would have A.) never came to New York to begin with (as a free agent) and B.) Never extended for cheap during this past offseason. Kidd came to New York to win another championship, but this time alongside of Carmelo Anthony. A future HOF veteran such as Kidd (a ring chaser) doesn't come here to New York unless he believes in Melo's ability to lead. It's also funny how you consider this team a "dead end" just like the "Organization that runs it" after talking up the likes of J.R Smith, Kidd, Wallace and Chandler. You do know which organization A.) Signed Kidd, J.R Smith and Wallace as free agents and B.) traded for Chandler... Right? Now you sound like a hypocritical hypocrite. That was fun, but now I'm done with you. Your post had too much fail in it, and as a sports fan I enjoyed tackling it before breaking it down. |
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Silverfuel
Posts: 31750 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 6/27/2002 Member: #268 USA |
12/12/2012 6:33 AM
I think Jason Kidd is the x-factor but Melo is definitely the Knicks MVP. He had 62% FG and scored 45 points. Kidd made a clutch 3 but we wouldn't need that clutch 3 if Melo hadn't scored the points.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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