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Bonn1997
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10/28/2012  5:59 PM
Solace wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If Harden plays like he did last year, then the Manu analogy is apt and he is definitely a max player. The problem is that was only one season of data.

U confuse me at every step...Harden is a max player??? and I believe u have argued Melo is not a max player...Am I correct??


There was an "if" in front of my statement but otherwise you are correct.

So Harden is better than Melo?


Most likely, yes. I say "most likely" because my claim is based on only two seasons of data from Harden but it's two unambiguously better seasons than what Melo provides. It's still not clear to me that Melo even helps his team win games.
I wonder how Melo would do if he played with Westbrook, Durant, Perkins, Ibaka etc.

Terrible. Only one ball.


LOL! Crush's question is a misguided excuse for MElo ball. Performance is impacted much less than many think by the quality of your teammates. You can be a good, efficient player whether you have great or bad teammates.
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10/28/2012  6:00 PM
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...

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10/28/2012  6:01 PM
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...
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10/28/2012  6:14 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Solace wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If Harden plays like he did last year, then the Manu analogy is apt and he is definitely a max player. The problem is that was only one season of data.

U confuse me at every step...Harden is a max player??? and I believe u have argued Melo is not a max player...Am I correct??


There was an "if" in front of my statement but otherwise you are correct.

So Harden is better than Melo?


Most likely, yes. I say "most likely" because my claim is based on only two seasons of data from Harden but it's two unambiguously better seasons than what Melo provides. It's still not clear to me that Melo even helps his team win games.
I wonder how Melo would do if he played with Westbrook, Durant, Perkins, Ibaka etc.

Terrible. Only one ball.


LOL! Crush's question is a misguided excuse for MElo ball. Performance is impacted much less than many think by the quality of your teammates. You can be a good, efficient player whether you have great or bad teammates.


Is a Prime Ginobli better than Melo?

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10/28/2012  6:30 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???

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10/28/2012  6:39 PM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???

This makes absolutely no sense.

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10/28/2012  6:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2012  6:43 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???

This makes absolutely no sense.

Why doesn't it make sense...If he believes Lin and Harden are better...He and others have argued the team should have been modeled after the team that have garnered success during Linsanity...So why doesn't it make sense???

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10/28/2012  6:44 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???

This makes absolutely no sense.

By the way Coughlin sucks

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10/28/2012  6:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2012  6:53 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???

This makes absolutely no sense.

By the way Coughlin sucks

Hah! He does.

Its mainly Fewell and KILLDRIVE (Gillbride)!!

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10/28/2012  6:53 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???

This makes absolutely no sense.

Why doesn't it make sense...If he believes Lin and Harden are better...He and others have argued the team should have been modeled after the team that have garnered success during Linsanity...So why doesn't it make sense???

Linsanity had many players injured and we have also added depth. The Linsanity was depleted so this is a really bad comparison.

What does this years knick team have to do with Linsanity?

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10/28/2012  7:01 PM
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???

This makes absolutely no sense.

By the way Coughlin sucks

This game has been painful to watch no matter who you're a fan of....

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10/28/2012  7:03 PM
Max is the market for Harden.

Is he worth it?

Tune in and find out!

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10/28/2012  7:04 PM
3G4G wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Solace wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If Harden plays like he did last year, then the Manu analogy is apt and he is definitely a max player. The problem is that was only one season of data.

U confuse me at every step...Harden is a max player??? and I believe u have argued Melo is not a max player...Am I correct??


There was an "if" in front of my statement but otherwise you are correct.

So Harden is better than Melo?


Most likely, yes. I say "most likely" because my claim is based on only two seasons of data from Harden but it's two unambiguously better seasons than what Melo provides. It's still not clear to me that Melo even helps his team win games.
I wonder how Melo would do if he played with Westbrook, Durant, Perkins, Ibaka etc.

Terrible. Only one ball.


LOL! Crush's question is a misguided excuse for MElo ball. Performance is impacted much less than many think by the quality of your teammates. You can be a good, efficient player whether you have great or bad teammates.


Is a Prime Ginobli better than Melo?


by a landslide.
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10/28/2012  7:06 PM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???


Actually, I never said Lin is better than Felton. I just said I don't care about DWill's opinion. Lin probably is better than Felton but there's not enough data to make any kind of definitive statement. I don't know enough about Houston's overall team to make a prediction about their win total. Sorry. You seem to be too highly invested in getting me to publicly make a bad prediction.
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10/28/2012  7:17 PM
3G4G wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???

This makes absolutely no sense.

By the way Coughlin sucks

This game has been painful to watch no matter who you're a fan of....

The giants playing conservatively for an FG and not all out (for a TD) will cost them this game.

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10/28/2012  7:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2012  7:18 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
3G4G wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Solace wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If Harden plays like he did last year, then the Manu analogy is apt and he is definitely a max player. The problem is that was only one season of data.

U confuse me at every step...Harden is a max player??? and I believe u have argued Melo is not a max player...Am I correct??


There was an "if" in front of my statement but otherwise you are correct.

So Harden is better than Melo?


Most likely, yes. I say "most likely" because my claim is based on only two seasons of data from Harden but it's two unambiguously better seasons than what Melo provides. It's still not clear to me that Melo even helps his team win games.
I wonder how Melo would do if he played with Westbrook, Durant, Perkins, Ibaka etc.

Terrible. Only one ball.


LOL! Crush's question is a misguided excuse for MElo ball. Performance is impacted much less than many think by the quality of your teammates. You can be a good, efficient player whether you have great or bad teammates.


Is a Prime Ginobli better than Melo?


by a landslide.


ROTFLOL not saying I disagree I think your response is hilarious. I'd wager to say if you surveyed 30GMs across the league on Harden/Ginobli/Melo at their best it would go...

67.3% Ginobli
30.3% Harden
3.3% Melo

They would show Melo some love

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10/28/2012  7:36 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
3G4G wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:US Olympic team.........

Not a big enough sample size...


Now you're actually getting it...

So Lin now has a better cast in Houston than when he had in NY during Linsanity...I know u believe that Lin is better than Felton...So I should assume you believe that Houston should have a better record than the Knicks this season...Care to stake your already vulnerable rep on that???

This makes absolutely no sense.

By the way Coughlin sucks

This game has been painful to watch no matter who you're a fan of....

The giants playing conservatively for an FG and not all out (for a TD) will cost them this game.

Nope. But the penalty that was initially called would have

I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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10/28/2012  7:42 PM
WOW I wonder what they will call there....looks like his hand may have hit the white but it's not clear indisputable evidence from calling it a touchdown......UNREAL!
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10/28/2012  7:42 PM
out of bounds
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10/28/2012  7:43 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:out of bounds

how does our 2ndary even let anyone get behind them anyway
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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