holfresh wrote:

Syniko wrote:

holfresh wrote:How do you give a guy who played 18 years in the NBA a three year contract...

When you're desperate enough to but this is Kidd we're talking about. He isn't some has-been bench scrub. He's a seasoned pro. A veteran. A superstar. A Champion.

He is 39 years old....39...

holfresh wrote:

Syniko wrote:

holfresh wrote:How do you give a guy who played 18 years in the NBA a three year contract...

When you're desperate enough to but this is Kidd we're talking about. He isn't some has-been bench scrub. He's a seasoned pro. A veteran. A superstar. A Champion.

He is 39 years old....39...

So what. Manage his minutes. If he takes care of himself and his body, what does age matter? you're acting like Jason Kidd is Sam Perkins or Benoit Benjamin. You can be 39 and still be in great shape.

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Kidd passes, rebounds, and defends well. What does Mayo do well?

Younger, better shooter, and he's not terrible with the ball in his hands. Basically, he's a better version of JR.

Younger doesn't get you points. If it did, we could get 5 year olds to play for us. Terrible with ball in hands? Like most fans, you're paying too much attention to "skill" and too little to outcome. The skill matters only if it gives you some tangible better outcome. Kidd actually had a slightly higher true shooting %. I still don't see anything Mayo does well.

Their effective fg% and true shooting% are pretty similar but Mayo is much younger and can still improve. Kidd is at the end of his career and is only going to get worse.

That is a fair point. If the two were playing at a similar level now, even if it were only a small edge for Kidd, I'd go with Mayo. But Kidd has a huge edge in several aspects of the game and there are no areas with meaningful edges for Mayo.

Well if they want they can get Mayo too with a sign and trade for more than whats out there. The Grizz might be the perfect team for this. I doubt it but it is an option. I would rather them do it for a big. I am not a big Frye fan but a stretch big might be nice.

holfresh wrote:

Syniko wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Syniko wrote:

holfresh wrote:How do you give a guy who played 18 years in the NBA a three year contract...

When you're desperate enough to but this is Kidd we're talking about. He isn't some has-been bench scrub. He's a seasoned pro. A veteran. A superstar. A Champion.

He is 39 years old....39...

So what. Manage his minutes. If he takes care of himself and his body, what does age matter? you're acting like Jason Kidd is Sam Perkins or Benoit Benjamin. You can be 39 and still be in great shape.

It matters because he is guarding the quickest position on the court..Last year I saw a few Mavs game...He was being blown by..He is done..he can't do it anymore...I know u think it guarantees Lin will play 47 mins but it won't make the Knicks better...

The Knicks wont be 'better' unless they make a major roster move...and they're not doing that.

JamesKPolk wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Syniko wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Syniko wrote:

holfresh wrote:How do you give a guy who played 18 years in the NBA a three year contract...

When you're desperate enough to but this is Kidd we're talking about. He isn't some has-been bench scrub. He's a seasoned pro. A veteran. A superstar. A Champion.

He is 39 years old....39...

So what. Manage his minutes. If he takes care of himself and his body, what does age matter? you're acting like Jason Kidd is Sam Perkins or Benoit Benjamin. You can be 39 and still be in great shape.

It matters because he is guarding the quickest position on the court..Last year I saw a few Mavs game...He was being blown by..He is done..he can't do it anymore...I know u think it guarantees Lin will play 47 mins but it won't make the Knicks better...

The Knicks wont be 'better' unless they make a major roster move...and they're not doing that.

You always have a chance if you put a team out there who can play defense...Always keeps u in the game...Lin and Kidd will be a liability...Awww what the hell...Starphuck and sell some tickets and Jerseys, watch the Bulls play the Heat and talk about how Lin outsold Kobe this month....

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Kidd passes, rebounds, and defends well. What does Mayo do well?

Younger, better shooter, and he's not terrible with the ball in his hands. Basically, he's a better version of JR.

Younger doesn't get you points. If it did, we could get 5 year olds to play for us. Terrible with ball in hands? Like most fans, you're paying too much attention to "skill" and too little to outcome. The skill matters only if it gives you some tangible better outcome. Kidd actually had a slightly higher true shooting %. I still don't see anything Mayo does well.

Their effective fg% and true shooting% are pretty similar but Mayo is much younger and can still improve. Kidd is at the end of his career and is only going to get worse.

That is a fair point. If the two were playing at a similar level now, even if it were only a small edge for Kidd, I'd go with Mayo. But Kidd has a huge edge in several aspects of the game and there are no areas with meaningful edges for Mayo.

I just think his numbers will continue to get worse and, even though it's a small contract, signing him will hamper our ability to use our exceptions

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Kidd passes, rebounds, and defends well. What does Mayo do well?

Younger, better shooter, and he's not terrible with the ball in his hands. Basically, he's a better version of JR.

Younger doesn't get you points. If it did, we could get 5 year olds to play for us. Terrible with ball in hands? Like most fans, you're paying too much attention to "skill" and too little to outcome. The skill matters only if it gives you some tangible better outcome. Kidd actually had a slightly higher true shooting %. I still don't see anything Mayo does well.

Their effective fg% and true shooting% are pretty similar but Mayo is much younger and can still improve. Kidd is at the end of his career and is only going to get worse.

That is a fair point. If the two were playing at a similar level now, even if it were only a small edge for Kidd, I'd go with Mayo. But Kidd has a huge edge in several aspects of the game and there are no areas with meaningful edges for Mayo.

I just think his numbers will continue to get worse and, even though it's a small contract, signing him will hamper our ability to use our exceptions

if we are gonna compete we have to have veterans who have been there like kidd and tyson. like I said i know kidd but as a backup point guard he will be really helpful in my opinion. I mean he is in good shape and wont have to worry about playing 35 mpg. I mean its not like we got bibby who even in his prime was a good player kidd is a HOF player

One more thing, Jason Kidd would make Landry Fields better.

Now close your eyes and visualize running Kidd and Lin together.

We desperately needed a floor leader (not another scorer) and we now have one.

Life am good.

"(Lin) and Kidd both Bay Area guys, and Kidd is a childhood hero of Lin's and someone with a lot of wisdom to impart." - Seth Rosenthal

You gotta admit, it has a nice symmetry to it.

Only one thing matters with our "awkward" roster. Does Kidd make the guys around him better?

You damn skippy.