mrKnickShot wrote:I personally think that JR is a better player than shump for the knicks - to play along side Nash

The BIG problem I have is now we will have Woodson as coach ( a defensive coach) and Nash as our PG. Who is going to play defense? We have Melo who is ISO and no matter how open Melo is when Nash gets him the ball (unless he is under the hoop), he is going to go ISO again. It is in his blood.

This just sucks as a decision to have to make but Miami is only going to get better.

EMS

Bonn1997 wrote:

ATrain wrote:You know, Melo takes a lot of **** for not coming in free agency and "making us lose all of our talented young players" but Nash is innocent? If he wants NY why won't he just come out and say it so that we can hold on to our leverage...not giving up our potential all star?

This is about as little as we can possibly give up for Nash. We have to include some players just to make the salaries match. Do you expect him to sign here for the league min?

But, you do know the danger in trading for an almost 40 year old player. No matter how good a shape you are in, injuries pop up and then it is finished. Big gamble.
Another question we don't know the answer to though, is does Shumper regain his form? Top notch lateral speed AND long fast arms/hands to match. But if his lateral is gone, and it will be the first and maybe second year, he is not the same defender.

Bonn1997 wrote:

ATrain wrote:You know, Melo takes a lot of **** for not coming in free agency and "making us lose all of our talented young players" but Nash is innocent? If he wants NY why won't he just come out and say it so that we can hold on to our leverage...not giving up our potential all star?

This is about as little as we can possibly give up for Nash. We have to include some players just to make the salaries match. Do you expect him to sign here for the league min?

is it about salaries matching or the Suns wanting the SG they missed out on in the draft? Why not sign and trade Novak?

We know what kind of player Nash is right now and what he brings to the table. Shump has to get over a serious knee injury and develop his game. I would rather we get a player who can get everyone else to play at a high level, who has a track record of being able to do this, than pass on a deal over a player who we still aren't sure has completely recovered from a knee injury and who still has parts of his game that still needs work. For what? Some non existent contender in the future? The future is now with this squad.

We aren't going to be able to get someone who could have a dramatic effect on this team's fortunes like Nash by offering TD as the centerpiece of any trade. It will cost us but I believe its well worth it.

GustavBahler wrote:Id like to see the Knicks make a legit run now. I believe Shumpert has a great career ahead of him if he gets past his knee injury and commits to working on his game. I don't have enough faith in Shumpert's recovery and development to pass on who is still one of the best PGs in the league, still playing at a high level, and who is one of a handful of players in this league who could get Stat, Melo, and Tyson (not to mention the rest of the team) on the same page.

We know what kind of player Nash is right now and what he brings to the table. Shump has to get over a serious knee injury and develop his game. I would rather we get a player who can get everyone else to play at a high level, who has a track record of being able to do this, than pass on a deal over a player who we still aren't sure has completely recovered from a knee injury and who still has parts of his game that still needs work. For what? Some non existent contender in the future? The future is now with this squad.

We aren't going to be able to get someone who could have a dramatic effect on this team's fortunes like Nash by offering TD as the centerpiece of any trade. It will cost us but I believe its well worth it.

It's a no Brainer to me! Nash is ready to win right now and still has game left on a team with younger All Stars still capable of carrying the bulk of the load. The Knicks window is NOW!!!

gunsnewing wrote:Cant wait to see the knicks defense next yr

Silverfuel wrote:Why are we going after Nash after we fired D'Antoni? Also, does Lin come off the bench?

I was also thinking...we might as well bring him back. Give him another crack at it.

ATrain wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:Why are we going after Nash after we fired D'Antoni? Also, does Lin come off the bench?

I was also thinking...we might as well bring him back. Give him another crack at it.