so it's time to set this topic and opening post straight
Theotherheath wrote:Melo is not a fit in NY period.
How can you come to an absolute conclusion yet? Melo is definitely not a point forward in the LeBron role and it's clear that he does not fit this role, which the Knicks have been forced into because of lack of PG. Last season Melo and Chauncy came into NY without practice time and with Chauncey almost immediately getting hurt. Was there really a chance for Melo, Chauncey, Amare to gel within that time? Bosh, LeBron, Wade couldn't do it at the beginning of the season after full training camp and preseason. I think the expectation that our big 3 would succeed and fit together would be rather small. And this season? No PG and the whole team looks like caca; so is it Melo or the PG/system? Seems like Lin has the system going, so one can certainly point to lack of PG being at least one of the problems.
Theotherheath wrote:I love how Chandler is playing but we need to sweeten the deal and paying a guy 54 Mill to come off the bench would be stupid. Trading the ball hog for Howard gives us the best center in the league, a man that can score twenty a night without demanding the ball, and dominates on the defensive end. Amare will be able to return to his game because even though Howard is a force inside he's willing to clear out for amare and then ballhawk the offensive board for put backs.
Howard willing to clear out for Amare? No. Howard is a post player. He will not clear out for anyone. How does a PnR PF player and post player without wing skills work together? Amare will be regulated to jump shooting. I think Melo-Amare compliment each of better; Melo has an outside game, a slashing game.
Next, let's check out an few article from this past week:
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/12/dwight-howard-goes-on-rant-about-fourth-quarter-touches-even-after-the-magic-win/
The crux of this article: even after a win Howard is complaining because someone else on his team got the ball when he was struggling and got points.
Howard is complaining… after a win! His team won! Jason Richardson won the game for the Magic by going nutso in the second half! Howard talks all this year about how he needs help, he just wants to win, he wants to have better teammates. Now he’s mad because he didn’t get the ball enough in the fourth quarter, when they won, and his teammates step up.
Theotherheath wrote:Getting rid of Melo and Chandler's bulky contracts would clear room to pick up both Wilson Chandler and JR Smith - at least for the remainder of the season! Imagine a starting five of Dwight Howard, Amar'e Stoudamire, Wilson Chandler, JR Smith, and Jeremy Lin! Davis, Douglas, fields, Shumpert, etc. all available off the bench.
This is factually incorrect. Blatantly false. If you trade Melo, Chandler, you have to take back as much contract $'s. So, TurkeyGlue coming back. Signing anyone outside of JR Smith with the room exception is not possible. Also, if you knew how restricted free agency worked, you would know that Wilson Chandler's right are owned by Denver.
Theotherheath wrote:And the final reason to get Howard for mister offensive black hole is because if Lin ends up being a flash in the pan there's always Deron Williams available at the end of the year. Another player seeking the NY stage, and a team rocking Howard and Amar'e would be difficult to pass up.
Nope, can't do Deron either, especially if you consider TurkeyGlue coming to Knicks. The Knicks would be over the cap.
Theotherheath wrote:Bottom line Melo needs to go! His inflated ego forced the Knicks to trade away everything they were missing this season. A starting point guard that was a maestro at directing d'antoni's offense, a solid scorer that could play the two or three, an Italian sharp shooter, and a back up center with huge potential. He forced the Knicks to trade away the core of the team when he KNEW he'd be a Knick anyway at the end of the year. He could've joined a team that had all the parts in place, but instead he demanded the limelight - fed off the drama of the trade - and forced the Knick's hand. Why would you cripple the team you want to play for?? Can anyone fathom that? Melo destroyed the Knicks long before stepping on the hardwood floor at the Garden. We should've seen his inability to be a team player when he dismantled the Knicks single handedly. He's a one man show. Just ask Denver! The only reason Orlando will take him is because they'd be getting two all stars under long term deals to put people in the seats.
Do the deal!!!
Melo's ego is only eclipsed by Howard's ego. You see how he is treating both his teammates as well his organization?