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crzymdups
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12/11/2011 11:27 AM
FisolaNYDN Frank Isola Source confirms earlier report that Knicks working on a three-way trade to acquire Jamal Crawford 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply ¿ △ ?
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crzymdups
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12/11/2011 11:33 AM
Knicks working on trade to get Jamal Crawford: source ¿ △ ?
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Elite
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12/11/2011 11:36 AM
im not mad at adding Jamal's offense.. what I'm mad about is losing Douglas's defense.. we desperately needed it
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crzymdups
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12/11/2011 11:50 AM
Berman saying Golden State is the third team.
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Knicksfan
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12/11/2011 11:55 AM
When the Knicks gave up on the idea of a third superstar, they meant business. Can't remember a time when we were this agressive looking to make deals that actually will help us contend for a championship.
This is shocking for me as a Knicks fan. But in a good way. Knicks_Fan
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MaTT4281
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12/11/2011 11:57 AM
I had made my peace with giving up TD, but I am getting a little nervous as to what else we'd be offering, especially if a third team is involved.
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ATrain
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12/11/2011 11:59 AM
Can someone help me understand why Atl would want to pay the luxury tax for Walker, Balkman, and TD?
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eViL
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12/11/2011 12:00 PM
i'd have to think Crawford could be effective here if not depended on as a primary guy.
damn, if they add Crawford and Barea, this team is gonna have some real depth at guard again. suspect defense? yes. gotta hope Shump is what they think he is. check out my latest hip hop project: https://soundcloud.com/michaelcro http://youtu.be/scNXshrpyZo
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Knixkik
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12/11/2011 12:01 PM
This has the potential of being a great move because Crawford brings that extra weapon to the mix that a contending team needs. My major concern, as with many of you, is who we trade in this scenario. If it's Tony Douglas than what does the PG position become? Does the FO view Crawford as a PG in this system? Do they feel Bibby can start? And what happens to our back-court defense, would it suffer?
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crzymdups
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12/11/2011 12:01 PM LAST EDITED: 12/11/2011 12:04 PM
Crawford's 10 games in NY under D'Antoni before the trades in November 2009:
W vs MIA 29pts 4ast 4reb 1stl 9/19FG 7/10FT He was a good fit for the D'Antoni offense, D'Antoni loved him. I think he's still a good fit. Hopefully he'd know his role was to shoot less. But he's a playoffs tested guard at this point. He led Atlanta to an upset of Orlando in the first of the playoffs last year, when Joe Johnson seemed out to lunch. ¿ △ ?
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crzymdups
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12/11/2011 12:02 PM
ATrain wrote:Can someone help me understand why Atl would want to pay the luxury tax for Walker, Balkman, and TD? It'd be a three-way trade. Atlanta would get mainly cap room and a trade exception. Golden State would take the players back. ¿ △ ?
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BigDaddyG
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12/11/2011 12:03 PM LAST EDITED: 12/11/2011 12:05 PM
ATrain wrote:Can someone help me understand why Atl would want to pay the luxury tax for Walker, Balkman, and TD? Your guess is as good as mine. On a side note, I wish our front office could be this creative bringing in someone like Ridnour or Sessions. I don't see why we're trading one streaking shooting combo guard who plays defense for an older, more expensive streak shooting combo guard who doesn't play defense. I hope this trade fails. Ahh, just saw your post above crzymdups. It makes sense for Atlanta then. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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CrushAlot
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12/11/2011 12:05 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Berman is the main guy on this so it might fail. It was only a couple of days ago that he had the Knicks getting Hill.ATrain wrote:Can someone help me understand why Atl would want to pay the luxury tax for Walker, Balkman, and TD? I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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crzymdups
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12/11/2011 12:05 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:ATrain wrote:Can someone help me understand why Atl would want to pay the luxury tax for Walker, Balkman, and TD? Toney can't dribble penetrate to save his life. Jamal is quite good at it. Have you guys watched Jamal lately? He's a different player. Did you see him lead Atlanta to an upset of Orlando in the playoffs? He was masterful. ¿ △ ?
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crzymdups
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12/11/2011 12:09 PM
Elite wrote:im not mad at adding Jamal's offense.. what I'm mad about is losing Douglas's defense.. we desperately needed it we have iman's defense. this idea that toney is a great defender kinda needs to go away. he plays hard. he doesn't play smart. ¿ △ ?
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BigDaddyG
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12/11/2011 12:11 PM LAST EDITED: 12/11/2011 12:12 PM
crzymdups wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:ATrain wrote:Can someone help me understand why Atl would want to pay the luxury tax for Walker, Balkman, and TD? I saw it, and Jamal has improved his shot selection the past few years. I'm not saying he sucks. But he is redundant. Fact is, TD is younger, a better three-point shooter, is a little steadier with the basketball and he plays better defense. Plus he's cheaper. I'd rather that the team focused its energies on a starting point guard if they pull off another trade. Another veteran PF who can make layups would be nice too. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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fishmike
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12/11/2011 12:12 PM
man I would love Crawford here... his defense would improve with this frontcourt. I always liked him as person, always wanted him to do well. I thought he was asked to do too much here. I think he would be a GREAT fit.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Childs2Dudley
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12/11/2011 12:13 PM
fishmike wrote:man I would love Crawford here... his defense would improve with this frontcourt. I always liked him as person, always wanted him to do well. I thought he was asked to do too much here. I think he would be a GREAT fit. What....what? Huh? What? Huh? SMH "Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us." - Earl Nightingale
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fishmike
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12/11/2011 12:16 PM
crzymdups wrote:Im open in my love for TD.. but what an upgrade Crawford is. Dude would be a stat stuff on this team. You could leave Fields as starting SG but open that job up to Shump if his defense is as good as advertisedElite wrote:im not mad at adding Jamal's offense.. what I'm mad about is losing Douglas's defense.. we desperately needed it "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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