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1/22/2011  10:50 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Felton's play has been disappointing...not sure what's going on

He seems to want to do too much at times. You applaud his grit... but question his judgment.

He is doing what the Coach is asking him to do. If the MDA tells him to look to pass Gallo the ball more, or any other player for that matter, I'm sure he will.

We dont want to accept it but R.Felton IS our second option on offense. The Knicks are a one trick pony...and now that teams know that, its forcing R.Felton to take a more offensive role.
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1/22/2011  11:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2011  11:07 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Felton's play has been disappointing...not sure what's going on

He seems to want to do too much at times. You applaud his grit... but question his judgment.

He is doing what the Coach is asking him to do. If the MDA tells him to look to pass Gallo the ball more, or any other player for that matter, I'm sure he will.

We dont want to accept it but R.Felton IS our second option on offense. The Knicks are a one trick pony...and now that teams know that, its forcing R.Felton to take a more offensive role.

This makes no sense. A coach doesn't have to tell Paul to pass the ball. Sloan is not telling Williams to pass to the open man, he just does it becuase its in his DNA. Many people on this board identified Feltons problem when we first signed him. He's not a pure point gaurd he doesn't have great vision.
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1/22/2011  11:15 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Why so much isolation down the stretch? No one could touch the ball except amare and felton the last 3 minutes and we cant rebound.

this is the summary of the 6 game losing streak in a nutshell.

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1/22/2011  11:18 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:Why so much isolation down the stretch? No one could touch the ball except amare and felton the last 3 minutes and we cant rebound.

this is the summary of the 6 game losing streak in a nutshell.

felton may attempt the PnR and hand off to Amare, but it turns into iso. Felton gotta go back and get the ball and run it again or find some other guys.

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1/22/2011  11:18 PM
Felton's helter skelter play that won us games earlier in the season when he was making shots is now hurting us. Surprising!

Felton is not a 20/10 pg. Now that he has come back to reality dudes are complaining when he has played the same way all season. Hilarious.

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1/22/2011  11:31 PM
These cats are worn out. You can tell there are no legs in their shooting. Amare is feeling the pain of being the only big and getting worked by two three bigs from the other team I can see frustration building. Wake up MDA its not to late man get AR and Moz in to the game get Amare some help let him play his natural position. The biggest drop of comes when Amare is on the bench, need that second big time player badly a go to player is a must.
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1/22/2011  11:37 PM
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tkf wrote:rofl.. Good. glad we lost... stupid two man game the last 5 minutes between felton and amare.. get melo and tell felton stop shooting.. gallo didn't get any touches, nor did anyone else.. to hell with this got damn team..

Felton lost this game for us. I could not believe that he did not even look at Gallo's way in the 2nd half. Felton is channeling his inner Dudu.

he is pathetic. .. I tried to support this guy all year.. Now I am turning on him.. I hate nothing more than a PG who looks for his own shots over anything else..

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no, we didn't rebound.. we let ibaka and collison go crazy on the boards.. one has to think that the length of AR and moz can only help us remedy the situation... we should have won, but when I saw felton and amare go into their two man, ignore everyone else, pick and roll offense, I knew it was over unles they hit every damn shot... and they didn't... it was one bad shot after another for the most part..
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1/22/2011  11:42 PM
martin wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why so much isolation down the stretch? No one could touch the ball except amare and felton the last 3 minutes and we cant rebound.

this is the summary of the 6 game losing streak in a nutshell.

felton may attempt the PnR and hand off to Amare, but it turns into iso. Felton gotta go back and get the ball and run it again or find some other guys.

other teams are now not guarding the knicks perimeter late in games, and it's not because they don't respect our shooting.. they just know felton and amare will force up a bad shot rather than pass.. simple and plain..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/22/2011  11:54 PM
tkf wrote:
martin wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why so much isolation down the stretch? No one could touch the ball except amare and felton the last 3 minutes and we cant rebound.

this is the summary of the 6 game losing streak in a nutshell.

felton may attempt the PnR and hand off to Amare, but it turns into iso. Felton gotta go back and get the ball and run it again or find some other guys.

other teams are now not guarding the knicks perimeter late in games, and it's not because they don't respect our shooting.. they just know felton and amare will force up a bad shot rather than pass.. simple and plain..

i wish we could see that whole court on the last play the Knicks had the ball. Wonder how open the other guys were.

Realistically though, Felton had a good, open shot.

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1/23/2011  12:00 AM
Knicks starting front court of Amare, Chandler, Gallo had 17 rebounds. Ibaka had 15.

Can the Knicks get some guys who can rebound?

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1/23/2011  12:14 AM
Going to have to catch replay as I missed this game but from what I've read so far, seems like Felton tried to take over in last couple of minutes which is a shame since it looks like Gallo was on tonight....

Felton has to show better decision making out there because he is starting to hold this team back big time.

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1/23/2011  1:18 AM
wow, just saw replay. felton SUCKS.
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http://www.nba.com/games/20110122/NYKOKC/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0021000647#nbaGIboxscore

this just pissed me off...

the very end of the game highlight video some a-hole says gallinari shouldn't have been on durant for that last second shot...

did this A-hole watch the game? gallo played great defense on him all game, and anyone who knows anything about the knicks knows this guy has been our best 1 on 1 defender this season at the position?

i don't know... the way he said it just got my blood boiling...
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1/23/2011  2:39 AM
martin wrote:
tkf wrote:
martin wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why so much isolation down the stretch? No one could touch the ball except amare and felton the last 3 minutes and we cant rebound.

this is the summary of the 6 game losing streak in a nutshell.

felton may attempt the PnR and hand off to Amare, but it turns into iso. Felton gotta go back and get the ball and run it again or find some other guys.

other teams are now not guarding the knicks perimeter late in games, and it's not because they don't respect our shooting.. they just know felton and amare will force up a bad shot rather than pass.. simple and plain..

i wish we could see that whole court on the last play the Knicks had the ball. Wonder how open the other guys were.

Realistically though, Felton had a good, open shot.


More upsetting because it was not the only time it took place in the game.

I still can't get an earlier play, which also took place in the 4th, out of my mind. Gallinari cut to the basket and was alone in the paint with nobody within 2-3 feet of him, and Felton, who must have seen him, chose to pass the ball to his left. I don't think we scored on the play, either.

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xeo wrote:http://www.nba.com/games/20110122/NYKOKC/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0021000647#nbaGIboxscore

this just pissed me off...

the very end of the game highlight video some a-hole says gallinari shouldn't have been on durant for that last second shot...

did this A-hole watch the game? gallo played great defense on him all game, and anyone who knows anything about the knicks knows this guy has been our best 1 on 1 defender this season at the position?

i don't know... the way he said it just got my blood boiling...

Don't sweat it- just being reported by guys who don't follow the Knicks and use the soft on D Euro label that some put on Gallinari before his draft.

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1/23/2011  3:07 AM
yeah... i just get so sick and tired of hearing people on tv or the radio make these bold statements about the team without really knowing much at all...
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1/23/2011  9:08 AM
martin wrote:Knicks starting front court of Amare, Chandler, Gallo had 17 rebounds. Ibaka had 15.

Can the Knicks get some guys who can rebound?

The question is will MDA play that player you get.
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1/23/2011  10:01 AM
If he's any good, then yes.
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1/23/2011  11:44 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Felton's helter skelter play that won us games earlier in the season when he was making shots is now hurting us. Surprising!

Felton is not a 20/10 pg. Now that he has come back to reality dudes are complaining when he has played the same way all season. Hilarious.

That is not true. When we were losing with a record of 3-8 a lot were critical of him. When we started winning was when he was moving the ball and running the PnR to perfection. I remember posting on a successful PnR execution from him sarcastically. He then started looking for others and was averaging almost 9 assists per game. In this losing streak he has been doing a Starbury imitation. Not good.
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