TMS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:One of my biggest issues with not getting Melo is there isn't a definite plan B that gives us a true upgrade. There are some options like Gasol and Chandler up front and Granger and Iggy in the backcourt, but i'm not convinced any of these players is significant enough as an upgrade to propel us to the next level. I am convince that despite losing significant talent to trade for Melo, we are a much better team and much more prepared for playoff success if we were to acquire him. For those opposed to trading multiple assets for Melo, can you please give me a plan that offers a significant upgrade and a comfort level that we are ready to advance to becoming a top team in the east?

IMO, if we miss out on Melo, i think our best bet might be to go after Camby & Dre Miller... that fills both our primary needs at the C & backup PG positions... i'd offer up AR, TD, Mozgov, Curry's expiring, a future #1 + cash... dunno if that would get it done tho.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5808327

btw, i hear the Nuggets are trying to get Miller back to Denver if they make this trade with the Nets... i say we screw them since they screwed us.

Knixkik wrote:

TMS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:One of my biggest issues with not getting Melo is there isn't a definite plan B that gives us a true upgrade. There are some options like Gasol and Chandler up front and Granger and Iggy in the backcourt, but i'm not convinced any of these players is significant enough as an upgrade to propel us to the next level. I am convince that despite losing significant talent to trade for Melo, we are a much better team and much more prepared for playoff success if we were to acquire him. For those opposed to trading multiple assets for Melo, can you please give me a plan that offers a significant upgrade and a comfort level that we are ready to advance to becoming a top team in the east?

IMO, if we miss out on Melo, i think our best bet might be to go after Camby & Dre Miller... that fills both our primary needs at the C & backup PG positions... i'd offer up AR, TD, Mozgov, Curry's expiring, a future #1 + cash... dunno if that would get it done tho.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5808327

btw, i hear the Nuggets are trying to get Miller back to Denver if they make this trade with the Nets... i say we screw them since they screwed us.

Yeah i like Camby and he makes us better for the next year or two, but nothing about this deal excites me.

no doubt, it's not a homerun trade but AR, TD & Mozgov don't much excite me either right now

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/sports/basketball/12camby.html?ref=sports

Camby piece. Seems like he prefers to stay in Portland but wouldn't mind coming here. Also sounds like Portland, the same team that turned down Chandler for Rudy, won't let him go cheap. As usual.

I would say DeAndre Jordan might be the most realistic option but if he keeps playing like this his price tag goes up and he may want to stick around sunny LA with Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin.

yeah i read that article... sounds to me like he wouldn't mind coming back either, but i agree w/u POR's GM is gonna be a PITA to deal with.

Best way to do this is to obtain Kevin Martin's $10M contract during the season. Hopefully, it is obvious that the Clips won't be able to resign Jordan so perhaps they'll trade him for Randolph. This way, we can retain Bird Rights on each of Jordan and Chandler and resign them notwithstanding our cap concerns. We would also retain rights to Turiaf and Azu.

Not sure what Houston wants for Martin, though I thought I read they were trying to move his contract. As much as I love Landry Fields, I would include him with Curry's contract, $3M and a 2nd rd pick for Martin.

camby would be ideal but he's getting up there in years and while he's got enough to survive another season or two, he's showing some slight decline in that he's become fairly useless on the offensive end.

tyson chandler would be my preferred choice. we have room for max money and i would just throw almost all of it his way. every team he's been on has been top 10 in the league in defensive efficiency and the #1 influence on team's d are their big men. he has great rebounding rates and he's progressed this year by becoming an asset on the offensive end. he can actually shoot a little bit now.

2 question marks with him is a)does he healthy? the foot is a concern but looks like he's over it and b)would mark cuban let him go. If i'm the knicks and we're #3 in the league in offense and currently 20th in defense, i throw whatever i can give to get him because he instantly turns our defense above average and might even make it elite paired with amar'e. the allure of a young and upcoming team in a prime city that needs his talents desperately might be a deciding factor as well.

how much money would i give him? give him the max.

he's always been a beast on the boards and he's now not a liability on offense. he's good in the pick n roll and he's not a horrible passer.