As a New Yorker/New Jerseyan, I don't mind Melo over in the Rock. Hell, I'll probably be over there for a couple of games. I think one thing about last season is that the Knicks could always say to themselves: "well, at least we're not the Nets."

Maybe having Melo over there will hold the feet of the Knicks players, coaches & front office to the fire, and keep them on their toes.

DrAlphaeus wrote:As a Knicks fan, I'm really interested in seeing our current roster do its thing. I think we may have a "whole is greater than the sum of its parts" type of squad a la Detroit 2004. If by January we stink, OK, let's start talking about switching up our roster, our coaching, whatever. But I just want to see some games with these guys, see if they can back up their talk.

As a New Yorker/New Jerseyan, I don't mind Melo over in the Rock. Hell, I'll probably be over there for a couple of games. I think one thing about last season is that the Knicks could always say to themselves: "well, at least we're not the Nets."

Maybe having Melo over there will hold the feet of the Knicks players, coaches & front office to the fire, and keep them on their toes.

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I doubt us Knicks Fans would be in a uproar if we were trading Jordan Hill and Jamal Crawford for Carmelo.

wait, what? Are you suggesting the Nuggs would trade those 2 for Melo? or that somehow the Knicks should have kept Jamal?

Im in no way suggesting we should have kept Jamal Crawford. Im saying before Jordan Hill played a game he had potential. Obviously we'd have to throw sweeteners in but I dont think many would be shedding a tear over losing Jordan Hill.

Favors hasnt stepped on an NBA court yet. So the Nets are giving up a top 3 lottery pick and Jamal Crawford 2.0 . I think some seem to forget Devin Harris is 27 yrs old right now because he looks young.

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I doubt us Knicks Fans would be in a uproar if we were trading Jordan Hill and Jamal Crawford for Carmelo.

wait, what? Are you suggesting the Nuggs would trade those 2 for Melo? or that somehow the Knicks should have kept Jamal?

Im in no way suggesting we should have kept Jamal Crawford. Im saying before Jordan Hill played a game he had potential. Obviously we'd have to throw sweeteners in but I dont think many would be shedding a tear over losing Jordan Hill.

Favors hasnt stepped on an NBA court yet. So the Nets are giving up a top 3 lottery pick and Jamal Crawford 2.0 . I think some seem to forget Devin Harris is 27 yrs old right now because he looks young.

Harris = Jamal Dude.

I used to be high on Harris when he was younger. His jumper is still suspect and so are his PG skills. He is a better penetrator and finisher than Crawford but also a worse shooter. Harris' problem is, like Crawford, he didnt take that next step. At 27 what you see is what you get.

I dont think how good Harris matters much anyway since he isnt going to Denver anyway. Denver is rumored to get AK47. So I dont think they want to pay someone to sit on the bench and collect checks.

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I doubt us Knicks Fans would be in a uproar if we were trading Jordan Hill and Jamal Crawford for Carmelo.

wait, what? Are you suggesting the Nuggs would trade those 2 for Melo? or that somehow the Knicks should have kept Jamal?

Im in no way suggesting we should have kept Jamal Crawford. Im saying before Jordan Hill played a game he had potential. Obviously we'd have to throw sweeteners in but I dont think many would be shedding a tear over losing Jordan Hill.

Favors hasnt stepped on an NBA court yet. So the Nets are giving up a top 3 lottery pick and Jamal Crawford 2.0 . I think some seem to forget Devin Harris is 27 yrs old right now because he looks young.

Harris = Jamal Dude.

I used to be high on Harris when he was younger. His jumper is still suspect and so are his PG skills. He is a better penetrator and finisher than Crawford but also a worse shooter. Harris' problem is, like Crawford, he didnt take that next step. At 27 what you see is what you get.

I dont think how good Harris matters much anyway since he isnt going to Denver anyway. Denver is rumored to get AK47. So I dont think they want to pay someone to sit on the bench and collect checks.

DUDE.

Yes Devin Harris is a worse "shooter" than Jamal Crawford. Carmelo is a worse shooter than Durant too. Does that make Carmelo a terrible shooter?

AnubisADL wrote:

I used to be high on Harris when he was younger. His jumper is still suspect and so are his PG skills. He is a better penetrator and finisher than Crawford but also a worse shooter. Harris' problem is, like Crawford, he didnt take that next step. At 27 what you see is what you get.

I dont think how good Harris matters much anyway since he isnt going to Denver anyway. Denver is rumored to get AK47. So I dont think they want to pay someone to sit on the bench and collect checks.

I agree with you- Harris, like the Nets in general, gets over rated and it always annoys me when they call him a "young" PG- he's 27, Felton isn't considered young so neither should Harris- Harris is pretty much what he is, he's pretty good, he had one excellent season followed by a stinker- he's not brimming with potential, he's just pretty good, he's not brimming with potential or going to be an elite PG. The only reason I think Felton has a chance to make a big improvement is soley due to him coming to a system that may allow him to play to his strengths- what he is after this season is pretty much all he will be, just like Harris is now.

Oh and while I'm at it- the Nets owner is not "charismatic"- he looks and sounds like a machine and his hair style looks like it was designed for maximum efficiency- if you think he's charismatic then I worry about the kinds of people you're drawn to! (sorry for the rant, all these pro Nets sentiments over this offseason have taken their toll on me!)

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I doubt us Knicks Fans would be in a uproar if we were trading Jordan Hill and Jamal Crawford for Carmelo.

wait, what? Are you suggesting the Nuggs would trade those 2 for Melo? or that somehow the Knicks should have kept Jamal?

Im in no way suggesting we should have kept Jamal Crawford. Im saying before Jordan Hill played a game he had potential. Obviously we'd have to throw sweeteners in but I dont think many would be shedding a tear over losing Jordan Hill.

Favors hasnt stepped on an NBA court yet. So the Nets are giving up a top 3 lottery pick and Jamal Crawford 2.0 . I think some seem to forget Devin Harris is 27 yrs old right now because he looks young.

Harris = Jamal Dude.

I used to be high on Harris when he was younger. His jumper is still suspect and so are his PG skills. He is a better penetrator and finisher than Crawford but also a worse shooter. Harris' problem is, like Crawford, he didnt take that next step. At 27 what you see is what you get.

I dont think how good Harris matters much anyway since he isnt going to Denver anyway. Denver is rumored to get AK47. So I dont think they want to pay someone to sit on the bench and collect checks.

DUDE.

Yes Devin Harris is a worse "shooter" than Jamal Crawford. Carmelo is a worse shooter than Durant too. Does that make Carmelo a terrible shooter?

show me the stats.

Devin Harris: http://www.82games.com/0910/09NJN1.HTM

Jamal Crawford: http://www.82games.com/0910/09ATL3.HTM

Look at shooting details.

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I doubt us Knicks Fans would be in a uproar if we were trading Jordan Hill and Jamal Crawford for Carmelo.

wait, what? Are you suggesting the Nuggs would trade those 2 for Melo? or that somehow the Knicks should have kept Jamal?

Im in no way suggesting we should have kept Jamal Crawford. Im saying before Jordan Hill played a game he had potential. Obviously we'd have to throw sweeteners in but I dont think many would be shedding a tear over losing Jordan Hill.

Favors hasnt stepped on an NBA court yet. So the Nets are giving up a top 3 lottery pick and Jamal Crawford 2.0 . I think some seem to forget Devin Harris is 27 yrs old right now because he looks young.

Harris = Jamal Dude.

I used to be high on Harris when he was younger. His jumper is still suspect and so are his PG skills. He is a better penetrator and finisher than Crawford but also a worse shooter. Harris' problem is, like Crawford, he didnt take that next step. At 27 what you see is what you get.

I dont think how good Harris matters much anyway since he isnt going to Denver anyway. Denver is rumored to get AK47. So I dont think they want to pay someone to sit on the bench and collect checks.

DUDE.

Yes Devin Harris is a worse "shooter" than Jamal Crawford. Carmelo is a worse shooter than Durant too. Does that make Carmelo a terrible shooter?

show me the stats.

Devin Harris: http://www.82games.com/0910/09NJN1.HTM

Jamal Crawford: http://www.82games.com/0910/09ATL3.HTM

Look at shooting details.

that's one year my bro.

career:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crawfja01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harride01.html

martin wrote:that's one year my bro.

career:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crawfja01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harride01.html

I posted 82games because they show the percentage of shots close to the basket versus jumpers. Crawford takes more jumpers and Harris drives more. Harris' percentage of jumpers is consistently lower than Crawford's.