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GoNyGoNyGo
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1/14/2004  10:41 PM
Posted by Therapist:
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

If Pennys so great what was his Prob in Orlando & phoenix?

would you quit hating on penny... i had a long post but i accidentally erased it, let me start again... basically, in Orlando there was NO problem with his PLAYING (his beef started with people saying he got the coach fired) and hardaway gets ovations in orlando STILL, so you can ask orlando fans (i was one) about him all day, your not gonna get anything negative... he was GREAT in orlando... in phoenix, ummm duh the problem was he was hurt..

penny's a solid player, always has been, even when he was hurt.. he's not GREAT anymore, but he's very good... is it or is it not showing? he starts and drops 19... he comes off the bench he drops 15, or whatever her dropped... tonight, comes off the bench, 13 points, but not only that... he's 5-8 and ZERO turnovers... what else do you want? he's making the most out of all his playing time... You should feel lucky that the Knicks have a guy that is a STARTER coming off of the bench...

i just see you hate on penny ALL the time...

just like your hating on LENNY, before he even gets a chance... maybe you just don't like their names i dunno... penny and lenny...

lets not even talk about penny in the playoffs... dude averages like 20...

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Penny was a top 3 player in this league, when Jordan was around! He is not the same physically, but he is healthier than he ahs been since 98! In addition he is smart and he knows how to play. he defended McGrady very well tonight, when he was on him.

He is a great 6th man! Ny needs to add a real backup PF-C. Someone who can seriously spell DEKE on his off nights.

What will the magic man do?
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1/14/2004  10:49 PM
Nice Win for General Herb! I liked seeing how fired up he got when Marbury got fouled hard when the refs back was turned, that was like watching the WWF.
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1/14/2004  10:53 PM
Just a ? regarding Penny,Yes he has lost a step,But he was overated from the start.Why Shaq hating on him! theirs a reason.He was a crybaby,who when injuried rehabbed away from the team

Remember Ewing rehabbing with the club on the bench everynight!

Penny no heart.He is/was a wimp.

Starks would eat him for breakfast.It's all about heart.
Look at Steph & allan showing heart,bleeding Orange & Blue

I want Old School Hard nosed Knicks.

I still hate the Pistons from the bad boy days

loved NYK & Showtime Lakers

[Edited by - CanadianKnicksFan on 01/14/2004 22:54:12]
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1/14/2004  11:10 PM
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Just a ? regarding Penny,Yes he has lost a step,But he was overated from the start.Why Shaq hating on him! theirs a reason.He was a crybaby,who when injuried rehabbed away from the team


Penny no heart.He is/was a wimp.

[Edited by - CanadianKnicksFan on 01/14/2004 22:54:12]

alright its official.... you definately don't know what your talking about... at least when it comes to penny... anything you say now, i won't take it seriously.. sorry i responded to the last post, that was my fault i should have known....

no heart.... RIIIIIIIGHT... get the hell outta here.... thats one thing he's definately gotta lot of... what else is bringing you back from a knee injury like he had? he was supposed to be DONE...

if you wanna talk about someone who don't have heart, talk about your boy keith van horn... but don't dare throw penny's name in there..
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1/14/2004  11:11 PM
... maybe you just don't like their names i dunno... penny and lenny...

rarely do I actually laugh out loud, but Im still cracking up over here...LOL

penny and lenny, man thats good stuff

"...sittin on more dubs than Lenny Wilkins" - Joe Budden
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1/14/2004  11:14 PM
oh, and overated from the start??


man you better check his stats his first 4 years...
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1/14/2004  11:21 PM
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Just a ? regarding Penny,Yes he has lost a step,But he was overated from the start.Why Shaq hating on him! theirs a reason.He was a crybaby,who when injuried rehabbed away from the team

Remember Ewing rehabbing with the club on the bench everynight!

Penny no heart.He is/was a wimp.

Starks would eat him for breakfast.It's all about heart.
Look at Steph & allan showing heart,bleeding Orange & Blue

I want Old School Hard nosed Knicks.

I still hate the Pistons from the bad boy days

loved NYK & Showtime Lakers

[Edited by - CanadianKnicksFan on 01/14/2004 22:54:12]
Before Starks was traded from the Knicks, he lost his heart... When he was dealt to GS, he was BROKEN and Pitiful. Remember the indy series (that we lost) before he was dealt? He brought his GOLF clubs on to indy on the road trip and booked reservations to stay in indy before the playoffs were over, which ended when we lost that game. That was a b!tch move and i lost ALL respect for the guy because of that.
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1/14/2004  11:23 PM
That was the Diesels team just like the Lakers are to

kobe & Penny had to suck Shaqs balls

What about rehabbing away form the team!

Anyways Magic fans make me laugh the team has been a joke since Shaq left.

John Starks has more Heart then penny in his toe

Thats a Knick!

Ewing,Starks & Action Jackson!
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1/14/2004  11:26 PM
the 1998 NYK team was garbage and going know where

Outclassed by the hated Pacers


The 93-94 club bleed Orange & Blue
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1/14/2004  11:27 PM
guys don't worry about the defense. It's bad right now because we have no one that can be a presence in the middel backing up Mutombo. Othella is always undersized and Doleac is a shooter not a defensive player. We need to get swift/camby/gooden/ratlif or someone one similiar who can block shots. I'm sure Isiah will get us that guy.
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1/14/2004  11:30 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

guys don't worry about the defense. It's bad right now because we have no one that can be a presence in the middel backing up Mutombo. Othella is always undersized and Doleac is a shooter not a defensive player. We need to get swift/camby/gooden/ratlif or someone one similiar who can block shots. I'm sure Isiah will get us that guy.

gGuns we don't have anyone to trade to the grizz for Swift,No way do we bring back Camby the injury man,Gooden is not on the block,and Theo is done
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1/14/2004  11:31 PM
Theo Ratliff done? He led the NBA in blocks last year, and is getting 3 blocks per game this year.
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1/14/2004  11:33 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Theo Ratliff done? He led the NBA in blocks last year, and is getting 3 blocks per game this year.

I think when CanadianKnicksFan says a player is 'done' he means they are not playing at an all-star level anymore. Penny...done. Ratliff done.
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1/14/2004  11:33 PM
Posted by Therapist:
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Just a ? regarding Penny,Yes he has lost a step,But he was overated from the start.Why Shaq hating on him! theirs a reason.He was a crybaby,who when injuried rehabbed away from the team


Penny no heart.He is/was a wimp.

[Edited by - CanadianKnicksFan on 01/14/2004 22:54:12]

alright its official.... you definately don't know what your talking about... at least when it comes to penny... anything you say now, i won't take it seriously.. sorry i responded to the last post, that was my fault i should have known....

no heart.... RIIIIIIIGHT... get the hell outta here.... thats one thing he's definately gotta lot of... what else is bringing you back from a knee injury like he had? he was supposed to be DONE...

if you wanna talk about someone who don't have heart, talk about your boy keith van horn... but don't dare throw penny's name in there..

I couldn't have said it better, Therapist. Keep it rugged.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/14/2004  11:35 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Theo Ratliff done? He led the NBA in blocks last year, and is getting 3 blocks per game this year.

Done as a stud player

Why get players who have seen better days
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1/14/2004  11:40 PM
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Done as a stud player

Why get players who have seen better days

Easy question to answer...because those players can still contribute. Jim Jackson for example. Travis best. Both not at the top of their games but solid veteren players who help teams win. Penny can help the Knicks win games.
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1/14/2004  11:45 PM
because they fit your system perfectly as role players. Great role players I should say.
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1/14/2004  11:46 PM
Posted by Andrew:
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Done as a stud player

Why get players who have seen better days

Easy question to answer...because those players can still contribute. Jim Jackson for example. Travis best. Both not at the top of their games but solid veteren players who help teams win. Penny can help the Knicks win games.

IMHO we need players on the upside with good contracts
Penny due like 40+
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1/14/2004  11:48 PM
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

IMHO we need players on the upside with good contracts
Penny due like 40+
Thats what everyone wants but cannot get! Those guys tend to stay with their teams and sign bigger contracts.
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1/14/2004  11:49 PM
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

IMHO we need players on the upside with good contracts

dude, it's called the draft, and that's realistically the only want it happens.
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