Pharzeone wrote:

Andrew wrote:

djsunyc wrote:if the knicks get a 1st rounder, they'll have to trade it immediately, no? b/c that be adding salary in the summer...

Depends on where the pick is and how much salary the Knicks need. If its a late pick it will cost the Knicks ~500K.

Isn't that still $500k more than they want to have on their books?

crzymdups wrote:

sebstar wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

sebstar wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:Goodbye Nategoat. I'm sure this coach will be more focused now. Hmm... House, what wait... I thought the problem was that Nategoat wasn't a pure point, couldn't play defense and was seen as a knucklehead. Oh yeah House is perfect.

Well played. D'ivatoni strikes again!

yeah, what's the point in getting a draft pick for 5'7" player you couldn't re-sign anyway?

also, what's the knicks record in games nate plays over 18 minutes in this season? 6-22? pretty sure they are 13-11 when he plays fewer than 18 minutes or is benched or injured. just sayin'. he hurts the team and often breaks the flow of the offense with his bad shots. when those bad shots are going in, he's a special player. when they aren't he's a minus. we were better this year when hughes and duhon were the primary guards.

What does his height have to do with anything? If you micro-analyze him, one can create a hole field of flaws. Like Phar said, in a lot of ways I feel he was scapegoated and made to look like a bad guy to distract from a lousy season.

But you guys win, Nate's gone. Excuses are gunna start to run out for D'ivatoni and Walsh soon, because they are getting everything they want.

for starters - his height has to do with the fact that he is a liability on defense. he's a flawed player. yes, he was our flawed player, but i think he was overrated by a lot while here.

it's not his fault we sucked, but he wasn't part of the solution either.

Well at least the Knicks got House for him. He should be an improvement, right?

crzymdups wrote:

joec32033 wrote:Toasting and posting says we are getting Eddie House and Veal. That doesn't come close to matching contract wise. what is really going down here?

there's a $1.6M trade exception the knicks own. that would make it work with Veal. i'm sure we'd waive veal immediately.

I want Veal and Brian Scallopini.

Panos wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

joec32033 wrote:Toasting and posting says we are getting Eddie House and Veal. That doesn't come close to matching contract wise. what is really going down here?

there's a $1.6M trade exception the knicks own. that would make it work with Veal. i'm sure we'd waive veal immediately.

I want Veal and Brian Scallopini.

I'm suddenly hungry.

I think everyone needs to stop wigging out for a moment and just see how this plays out. We know the Knicks and Celtics are trying to finalize a deal regarding Nate Robinson.

Anything more seems to be speculative at this point but Eddie House would make sense in return.

Trade deadline is in 23 hours and 33 minutes. Probably time to let this thing simmer a bit and see what breaks later tonight or tomorrow.

iSergio wrote:I'll miss Nate Robison. It's too bad he never got to play here on a team with a couple of veterans to keep him in check. He wasn't perfect and he has his flaws but he played hard and was always in shape. He might be annoying but he's not a bad guy. I'll miss him.

But Eddie House is a total scrub. Let's see how many wide open shots he get's without the Big 3. I predict he'll be the most hated player after Chris Duhon.

i wont say ill miss nate robinson, but i agree with the rest of what you said about him. nate will play well with guys like garnett and pierce to keep him in check.

I grew tired of the head aches just like I've grown tired of pretty much the same crap from Harrington.

Removing those types of players is the right idea in terms of trying to build a better team harmony and chemistry on the court.

Of course, that's meaningless for the rest of this year, but what isn't is removing two players who know they aren't in our future plans from the team instead of watching them sulk in the final 30 games. It's best to move those guys forward.

Now Nate can go try to start over in Boston. I wish him luck but I won't miss him no matter what he does over there.

Pharzeone wrote:

iSergio wrote:I'll miss Nate Robison. It's too bad he never got to play here on a team with a couple of veterans to keep him in check. He wasn't perfect and he has his flaws but he played hard and was always in shape. He might be annoying but he's not a bad guy. I'll miss him.

But Eddie House is a total scrub. Let's see how many wide open shots he get's without the Big 3. I predict he'll be the most hated player after Chris Duhon.

Oh but you forget he is a pure point and a tremendous defensive player.

I did say he had his flaws.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Markji wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:a waste of time would be letting robinson go in the summer for nothing.

In the same light, for Houston, it would be a waste for letting TMac expire and get nothing for him. Which is why Houston shouldn't be dictating such high terms. If Houston gets nothing for TMac, they have lost out on a lot.

no, they haven't. they'll just have cap space. they have nothing to lose.

Do you realize they could have added Caron Butler and Hayward and been a strong contender in the West this year and next year. All for a player they are not playing.

If Morey doesn't get anything for TMac, he is a BIG loser.