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Bull/Knicks romance never ends...Tyrus Thomas Rumors
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Finestrg
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12/5/2009  5:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/5/2009  5:40 PM
I'm not too crazy about this Harrington for Ty Thomas move - I could learn to live with it but I don't love it. There's gotta be better moves Donnie can make than this, no? I don't know... TT's a great athlete who plays hard, plays with fire & passion (which I personally love in a player) and supplies a legit shot-blocking element but he's really a limited offense player. Compare him and Wilson Chandler. For all Chandler's shortcomings, I think he might be a better offensive player than this guy Thomas and not that far off in terms of athletic ability when fully healthy. Plus Chandler's even younger than Thomas and has been coming on of late (I haven't been watching all these games religiously anymore of late but I saw the whole game last night against Atlanta - it was the first time since last year I remember seeing Chandler dunking the ball more than once in a game). Chandler's development hasn't come along the way I expected and hoped for, but to me, he's still got more overall upside than Ty Thomas. It's debatable because Thomas is such a freak athlete and does bring some good things to the table but if it came down to Chandler or Thomas as a secondary young piece to build with, I feel Chandler's shown he has more ability...What do you do with Wilson after a move like this goes down? Forget all this trying to shoehorn him in at the 2 spot stuff, Willie's not a SG (among other things, I want them to find a legit, well-rounded young SG somewhere -- Hughes is a little over the hill now but look what a good two-way SG that passes the ball and scores can do for this offense)..I think you'd have to really look into dealing Chandler for something then, to alleviate the SF logjam. Maybe then a move like this makes a little more sense..I don't know man....

If we did this, we'd have to turn around and lock up this guy long-term otherwise the move's pointless (if they traded for this kid only to renounce him at the end of the year, just let Harrington come off the books then). What makes the most sense to you guys -- hopefully securing at least one big FA (provided we can't move Curry or JJ in time - if we can, then getting two of these 2010 FAs is a no-brainer and should prove much easier) and then:

a) lock up Ty Thomas long-term starting in the $6-7 mil. dollar range or settle on his QO for next year ($6,256,806)

b) don't do this trade with Chicago & give that type of money to David Lee

c) don't do this trade with Chicago & give that type of money to Al Harrington

I think I go b, a, c, in that order. Like some of you guys, Lee's defense irritates me as well, but I think for that type of money ($6-7 million dollars a year) Lee's overall production tells me that he's the best buy at that price. As a 2nd choice, Ty Thomas then makes some sense. I really like Harrington (he was unbelievable again last night, esp. in the first half) and actually think he's a better player than both Lee and Thomas but he's also a little older. Only reason I put him last out of these three options -- it doesn't make too much sense for a rebuilding team to focus on veteran talent over youth right now...

How do you guys feel??

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12/5/2009  7:45 PM
This had steam early but a few days have passed and I think it lost any momentum. I'm sure it was discussed but never got that close to happening. I'm also sure we're thinking about making trades. I honestly don't think we do anything until the deadline.
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12/5/2009  8:52 PM
Read the fan comments after the article http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1395

Chicago fans take: No-brainer. Why would NY do it?

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/6/2009  12:22 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
OldFan wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Tyrus has a lot of Stromile Swift. It looks so good but it just isnt there.

That's disappointing to hear from you Briggs. I know how much you want a shot blocker so if even you don't think he'd help that's not a good sign. I was hoping he could help us some with our interior defense. But I haven't seen the guy play much.

He could help--but like many Knicks it seems like every other game. He's not 7-1. Maybe a higher tempo could help his skills more--what do we have to lose?

Can he cover guys in the post?

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12/6/2009  6:08 AM
I'd hate to lose a guy that genuinely loves being a Knick. He takes pride in wearing the orange and blue. At the same time...what are the knicks trying to build here??? Are they trying to get a team of up and comers or are they trying to build a team around 2 all-stars like "the 2010 plan" calls for???

If you want Lebron...what position does he play? you can't expect to beat anybody with a front court of lebron, david lee, and gallo...I mean who is the pf? c? sf? you can't expect gallo or lebron to be the shooting guard makes no sense...even if you add tyrus the team is very mediocre and lopsided. Is Duhon returning to run the point too? Makes no sense, for real....

A stand has to be made....I think the Knicks have to figure out what they wanna do. At this stage, is Tyrus even better than Jordan Hill? Do you think tyrus and jordan hill as the 4/5 work? lee and tyrus???

I'm all over tehe place but my point is made...what the hell are we freaking doing?

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12/6/2009  6:37 AM
EnySpree wrote:I'd hate to lose a guy that genuinely loves being a Knick. He takes pride in wearing the orange and blue. At the same time...what are the knicks trying to build here??? Are they trying to get a team of up and comers or are they trying to build a team around 2 all-stars like "the 2010 plan" calls for???

If you want Lebron...what position does he play? you can't expect to beat anybody with a front court of lebron, david lee, and gallo...I mean who is the pf? c? sf? you can't expect gallo or lebron to be the shooting guard makes no sense...even if you add tyrus the team is very mediocre and lopsided. Is Duhon returning to run the point too? Makes no sense, for real....

A stand has to be made....I think the Knicks have to figure out what they wanna do. At this stage, is Tyrus even better than Jordan Hill? Do you think tyrus and jordan hill as the 4/5 work? lee and tyrus???

I'm all over tehe place but my point is made...what the hell are we freaking doing?

Waiting for the season to end. None of the expiring guys are coming back.

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12/6/2009  9:23 AM
Is there no way we can trade Harrington for Mcgee and James? I would be willing to do that.
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12/6/2009  10:58 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Is there no way we can trade Harrington for Mcgee and James? I would be willing to do that.

There is a falling out of some sort between Caron and Agent Zero. There might be a slimmer of chance that this can happen. McGee is a player along with Ty Thomas that I would like to acquire before the trade deadline.

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12/6/2009  11:07 AM
I think he's a good player but I don't see how Ty fits on our current team. Simply put he can't play in the front court with Lee. In Mike's offence (hate on him as much as you want but him and his system aren't going anywhere) the big men are either setting high screens (Lee, Amare) or on the perimeter spreading the defense (Harrington, Diaw). Lee's a good fit at the center position, he's good and the screen and roll but can't shoot well enuff to be a D'Antoni 4. So where does that leave Ty? He also can't shoot well enuff to be a D'Antoni 4 and Lee's a better screen and roll player. Ty would only work as Lee's replacement and that would be a lateral move at best.
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12/6/2009  2:06 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Is there no way we can trade Harrington for Mcgee and James? I would be willing to do that.

There is a falling out of some sort between Caron and Agent Zero. There might be a slimmer of chance that this can happen. McGee is a player along with Ty Thomas that I would like to acquire before the trade deadline.

what does one have to do w/the other?

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