martin wrote:So, we should force the NBA to create a minor league system? Let's go broader, every business in America should have a minor league system.

It’s called internships and apprenticeships.

Now, something tells me that if a business had the potential to make millions off of those interns, they'd be paid. Because that’s how it works everywhere else in America, save the NCA of A.

martin wrote:
So, we should force the NBA to create a minor league system? Let's go broader, every business in America should have a minor league system.

Should we not allow companies to use the excuse "you don't have enough experience" when job interviewing? Should that be illegal?

Actually Martin, if you read above you will see that I favor an apprenticeship system for the system of employment in our society rather than making people spend scads of money in college and go into debt before they have any idea whether they are cut out for a given career. Tried and true for 5000 years my friend.

TO answer your question: "Should the NBA be forced to create a minor league system?" Maybe not by law, but you'll see that "the force" is already in motion. The fact that they haven't had one in place for 20 years already just shows that they cannot see the forest for the trees.

oohah

Other than that I can't see the argument against it when it works for every other freakin' sport with the exception of American football!

oohah

RemBee76 wrote:

martin wrote:So, we should force the NBA to create a minor league system? Let's go broader, every business in America should have a minor league system.

It’s called internships and apprenticeships.

Now, something tells me that if a business had the potential to make millions off of those interns, they'd be paid. Because that’s how it works everywhere else in America, save the NCA of A.

So you are telling me that I really didn't need to do my four years in college for my undergrad I could have just done internships? Nearly every decent paying job in America requires some minimal education.

Apparently when I said 50 years you took that to mean that literally 50 years ago? You do realize I was talking about the entire history not just 50 years ago correct? So in that 50 years I meant the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. What information supports your argument

And the fact that most of these guys aren't developing has nothing to do with them not attending college and developing before entering the pros?

Let me get this straight are you saying the AAU and high school basketball system produces better players then the college athletics? Really that's the heart of the argument here if you can successfully argue that AAU and high school sports put out tremendous NBA players then let's go down that road.

At this point I think you are purposefully trying to obfuscate the argument and string me along with questions rather than explain your point and tell me why we should not or cannot be developing our basketball talent like they do in European sports, Baseball, Hockey, Golf, Tennis, etc.

Please tell me why that can't work for basketball, and even more interesting to me, why you are so opposed to these young men earning a small chunk of change while they try to make it to the show?

It is a very simple question. I've answered a lot of questions on this thread to back my point but only Bippity has given anything back that is an answer - everybody opposed just has more questions. Please answer my question.

oohah

bitty41 wrote:Nearly every decent paying job in America requires some minimal education.

Strangely enough, being an NBA player isn't one of them.

bitty41 wrote:

oohah wrote:Why is everybody so against the NBA having a real minor league? Is it just because you want your favorite college team to remain as it was for your whole life?

Other than that I can't see the argument against it when it works for every other freakin' sport with the exception of American football!

oohah

Because the NBA barely has money for most the teams in their league how the hell are they going to sustain dead-market teams, the WNBA, the developmental league, and a minor league? These are all entities that the NBA backs that generates essentially no money.

I would say that is a poor argument. Because the NBA cannot possibly afford a minor league? Then something is wrong that goes beyond the question of training young players. And how the hell does baseball afford it?

Common sense says that the NBDL and a minor league would be one and the same. And the WNBA? If it cannot sustain itself then it should not keep going.

oohah

RemBee76 wrote:

martin wrote:already did, read up on the thread.

With all due respect, you haven't. You made an impassioned argument for why it benefits NBA owners to have College coaches in the NCAA train their players for a year for free, rather than pay the player (who they will make tens of millions of dollars on, remember) $3 million in their first year. This, frankly, is a bit obvious.

But you have made no argument for how one year in the NCAA benefits the NBA product (which would be appropriate, I think, as a highly disproportionate number of top NBA players never went to college)

I wait eagerly.

I've made no such argument as you have described above. Re-read and don't get tripped up on that slavery silliness.

oohah wrote:

bitty41 wrote:

oohah wrote:Why is everybody so against the NBA having a real minor league? Is it just because you want your favorite college team to remain as it was for your whole life?

Other than that I can't see the argument against it when it works for every other freakin' sport with the exception of American football!

oohah

Because the NBA barely has money for most the teams in their league how the hell are they going to sustain dead-market teams, the WNBA, the developmental league, and a minor league? These are all entities that the NBA backs that generates essentially no money.

I would say that is a poor argument. Because the NBA cannot possibly afford a minor league? Then something is wrong that goes beyond the question of training young players. And how the hell does baseball afford it?

Common sense says that the NBDL and a minor league would be one and the same. And the WNBA? If it cannot sustain itself then it should not keep going.

oohah

So again you think players would benefit playing with a bunch of scrubs in the middle of Idaho? What about the ones who never make it? Because the way you open it there will only be so many spots in the NBA draft so what happens to the rest of these guys? Imagine some poor kid who forgoes college for a "developmental league" is unable to make to the pros so he returns home with not one single college credit to his name, not much income, and almost no serious earning potential. Wow you really do care about the kids!