Exactly the kind of thoughtful, well reasoned, rational, and thought provoking dialogue that I expected to read in the "Gallo is gone" thread on UK after I got home from a hard days work.

(Not directed toward anyone in particular)

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 03-17-2009 6:25 PM]

Posted by sebstar:

A part of America dies with each one of your weak posts. So let me ask you, are you going to continue to be Anti-American up here?

If so, the terrorists win.


[Edited by - sebstar on 03-17-2009 6:19 PM]

What LOL?

And you had to edit it? To do what? Make it make LESS sense?

I don't think Gallo was D's pick. He was quoted as saying he had to be convinced of the pick and he looked like a deer in the headlights when he was interviewed on draft night. The Knicks passed up alot of talent to get fancy and go for the lesser known commodity. There was no reason to do this. There was no reason to draft another small forward. I hope Gallo is ok and successful but I do not understand the pick for a 23 win team with all of the talent on the board that was known.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by BasketballJones:

I have a question for Islefan... Dude, why are you here? It's obvious you're not a Knick fan. I think you're just here to twist the knife.

Original Thought © 2009 by BasketballJones

[Edited by - basketballjones on 03-17-2009 18:07]

That's not the point. I didnt say anything profound that came down from the heavens and should be engraved on a scroll...but how are you going to act like somebody is invisible?

I am invisible. I make profound observations all the time that get ignored. Then somebody else rephrases it and gets all the credit.

I've learned to live with it.

Posted by Marv:

prediction: gallo recovers from his injury, and goes on to have a rashard lewis/peja type career. guy's got one of the most money shots i've ever seen and a great attitude.

He said money shots.

CHEETOS FTW!!!

Gallo needs to talk with Jeffries about his hyperbaric chamber.

If you're an injured runner, should you breathe in pure oxygen to hasten the healing process? That's what some sports scientists are recommending, as the inhalation of oxygen under high pressure (also called hyperbaric oxygen therapy) becomes an increasingly popular form of treatment for hurting athletes.

Several English football teams used hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBO3) to treat their players this year, apparently with excellent results. In one case, an athlete with ligament damage reduced recovery time by 33 per cent with hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and a second player receiving hyperbaric oxygen therapy recovered in only four days even though doctors had predicted a three-week lay-off.

Why would hyperbaric oxygen therapy be helpful? First of all, hyperbaric oxygen treatment boosts white blood cell activity in damaged parts of the body, controlling infections. Hyperbaric oxygen therapy also tends to constrict blood vessels and decrease the amount of blood pumped by the heart. Although this sounds like a negative effect, it actually diminishes blood flow to an injured region, helping to reduce pressure and swelling. Even though blood supply is curtailed, the amount of oxygen actually reaching damaged tissues rises with hyperbaric oxygen treatment because of the surplus oxygen inhaled.

Over the past 20 years or so, hyperbaric oxygen therapy has been used fairly successfully to treat a wide variety of medical conditions, including gangrene, carbon-monoxide poisoning, and the decompression sickness sometimes experienced by deep-sea divers. Hyperbaric oxygen treatment has occasionally worked well for patients whose tissues have been damaged by radiation, and there's some indication that hyperbaric oxygen therapy could be a useful treatment for bone infections, cyanide poisoning, smoke inhalation, recurrent infections, bums, and traumatic 'crush injuries' in which body parts are mechanically squashed as a result of a car accident or a hard physical blow to the body.

However, scientific research concerning the effectiveness of hyperbaric oxygen therapy, much of it carried out in the former Soviet Union, has yielded somewhat mixed results. Overall, the studies suggest that after radiation treatments for malignant cancer, hyperbaric oxygen therapy can enhance tendon and ligament repair in damaged parts of the body but has much more limited success with restoring injured nerve cells.

Hyperbaric oxygen therapy has helped to lessen the impact of some spinal cord injuries in experimental animals, especially when the oxygen was given within two hours after a trauma-producing event. Hyperbaric oxygen therapy has also promoted the healing of gunshot wounds and boosted recovery in patients after nerve-tissue surgery. One study found that hyperbaric oxygen treatment initially limited pressure and swelling inside the brain after a traumatic head injury, although the effect was not long-lasting and pressure eventually rebounded to abnormally high levels.

Most relevant to runners in particular is a recent study in which hyperbaric oxygen therapy controlled the tissue damage associated with 'compartment syndrome'. Compartments are simply sections of the leg which are enclosed by tough, connective-tissue wrappers, and compartment syndrome is a condition in which fluid pressure rises to abnormal levels inside one of the compartments, sometimes producing nerve and muscle damage. It's a fairly uncommon affliction, but it does affect some runners. Unfortunately, this study was carried out with dogs, so it's not certain that hyperbaric oxygen treatment can effectively treat compartment syndrome in humans.

Other studies have found that hyperbaric oxygen therapy speeds recovery in rats suffering from injuries to the connective tissue surrounding their teeth, and that (thankfully) hyperbaric oxygen treatment is not toxic to the treated rats' testes.

Overall, hyperbaric oxygen therapy does seem to limit bleeding and swelling following traumatic injury. However. most running injuries don't involve bleeding, and they tend to be the somewhat limited 'wear-and-tear' type rather than the major catastrophes for which hyperbaric oxygen therapy has normally been used. To date, not a single published study has linked hyperbaric oxygen treatment with quicker recovery from injury in runners. There's also a potential downside to hyperbaric oxygen treatment: the increased tissue-oxygen levels may actually increase free-radical damage to muscle-cell membranes throughout the body (free radicals are chemicals which react destructively with the outer wrappers of cells; free-radical concentrations increase as oxygen levels rise). Although hyperbaric oxygen therapy is promising, it's simply too early to say whether hyperbaric oxygen therapy will one day be as popular as aspirin and ice among runners.

Posted by BigRedDog:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Not good. I'm not surprised, in spite of assurances from Isles and Pharze I knew he was not right. But this is not good.

No no, the assurances were from that liar Mike D'Antoni. The coach who only gives lip service to doing what's right for his players.

No, I agree with you. We should only judge a coach on what he says to the press. And Gallo should have never been allowed to play limited minutes to see how he responds, that's irresponsible.

I'm glad we agree. Because I know when a coach says that they have to do what's right for a player's health and career, it's typically not a throwaway line to the press. At least it sure as hell shouldn't be because that would just be irresponsible.

So true, and we all know the responsible thing would have been what you suggested, which is if he's going to play 1 minute than he should be playing "at least" 15 mins every night. Never let a player progress slowly the way doctors advise, do it harshly out of spite.

Of course as a fan, I can only go by what the organization says it's going to do, which was not to let him play until he was 100%. That seems like the responsible thing to do and of course I always advocated that route by suggesting that he should play at least 10 minutes a night based on the medical staff and head coach declaring him 100% healthy.

When did ANYONE EVER declare Gallo 100 % healthy?? Don't let the truth stand in the way off trashing the knicks. This is why in my book Isles has NO credibility. Show me, Isles anywhere where the coach ever said Gallo was 100% healthy.

Isles I am not surprised you didn't respond to this question. I didn't think you have the guts. You just like to sneak up and take cheap shots at the coach and GM. SHOW SOME FACTS.

Posted by BigRedDog:

Posted by BigRedDog:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Not good. I'm not surprised, in spite of assurances from Isles and Pharze I knew he was not right. But this is not good.

No no, the assurances were from that liar Mike D'Antoni. The coach who only gives lip service to doing what's right for his players.

No, I agree with you. We should only judge a coach on what he says to the press. And Gallo should have never been allowed to play limited minutes to see how he responds, that's irresponsible.

I'm glad we agree. Because I know when a coach says that they have to do what's right for a player's health and career, it's typically not a throwaway line to the press. At least it sure as hell shouldn't be because that would just be irresponsible.

So true, and we all know the responsible thing would have been what you suggested, which is if he's going to play 1 minute than he should be playing "at least" 15 mins every night. Never let a player progress slowly the way doctors advise, do it harshly out of spite.

Of course as a fan, I can only go by what the organization says it's going to do, which was not to let him play until he was 100%. That seems like the responsible thing to do and of course I always advocated that route by suggesting that he should play at least 10 minutes a night based on the medical staff and head coach declaring him 100% healthy.

When did ANYONE EVER declare Gallo 100 % healthy?? Don't let the truth stand in the way off trashing the knicks. This is why in my book Isles has NO credibility. Show me, Isles anywhere where the coach ever said Gallo was 100% healthy.

Isles I am not surprised you didn't respond to this question. I didn't think you have the guts. You just like to sneak up and take cheap shots at the coach and GM. SHOW SOME FACTS.

Fine, but only because your panties are in such a bunch.

"Yeah, I'm worried about it at this point," D'Antoni said when asked about potential surgery. "We're just going to do what's best for him. He's 20 years old. We'd love for him to play in the next two or three weeks, we'd love for him to play in the next two or three months, but he's got to be 100 percent well. From that point, we'll see. And I don't know when that point will be."

D'Antoni said that on November 12, when Gallinari was shut down for 2 months. That was when it was presumed that D'Antoni and the Knicks organization actually gave a damn about Gallinari and were going to do what was right by him. Now, amazingly enough, we're told that it's foolish to believe what D'Antoni said about caring about Gallinari's overall well being. Apparently it was a no brainer that Gallinari was going to be rushed back before he was 100%.

Why didn't the Knicks do the prudent thing, the very thing that D'Antoni paid lip service to, and made sure that Gallinari was 100% before letting him come back?

Ok BigRedDog, I want an apology.

I am not surprise that gallanari is injured he looked injured to me for a quite while. Like I said before this was the wrong player to get when we had other needs to fill like center or power foward not a small forward who is no where close to dirk nowitiski . Gallanari is more closer to Vladmir Romanish of the bobcats just three point shooter. Get back on series note having a back problems at age 20 is not good because his development is going to take more time now then before. This guy has lot of pressure the newyork fans were patient with him but now that this happened there not going be patient because the fan base want results. For example say player like Jason Thompson makes the allstar game and other rookies like speights or mcgee play on a allstar level and gallanari is not playing like an all star the fans will be very angry with this. One more thing back problems never go away fully ask larry Johnson he lost his dunking ablity but he contribute in other ways but eventually he had to retire because his back was hurting to much. Also why is he going to italy for a back specialist that is kind of strange to me there something not right about that.

Posted by lumbardar:

I am not surprise that gallanari is injured he looked injured to me for a quite while. Like I said before this was the wrong player to get when we had other needs to fill like center or power foward not a small forward who is no where close to dirk nowitiski . Gallanari is more closer to Vladmir Romanish of the bobcats just three point shooter. Get back on series note having a back problems at age 20 is not good because his development is going to take more time now then before. This guy has lot of pressure the newyork fans were patient with him but now that this happened there not going be patient because the fan base want results. For example say player like Jason Thompson makes the allstar game and other rookies like speights or mcgee play on a allstar level and gallanari is not playing like an all star the fans will be very angry with this. One more thing back problems never go away fully ask larry Johnson he lost his dunking ablity but he contribute in other ways but eventually he had to retire because his back was hurting to much. Also why is he going to italy for a back specialist that is kind of strange to me there something not right about that.

Would you trust the Knicks medical staff at this point? I don't blame him. He probably said these SOBs fed me BS all season long. He won't be the first to say a big F U to the Knicks medical staff. Walsh was crazed with not being proved wrong about Gallo this year. It goes back to summer. When MDA suggested he go to NBDL to do rehab, get adjusted to the NBA and the US, Walsh wanted no part of it.