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1/19/2009  5:58 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Ira:

I don't get the Gallo-Frye comparison. Frye's one weapon was a medium range jump shot which was ineffective if someone played him tight. Gallo can take a three or put it on the floor and take a defender off the dribble. In his summer league game, he actually showed a pretty good crossover move. Also, he seems to play some d - something that no one could possibly accuse Frye of.

The concern about Gallo's strength is legit. I'm wondering if his back problems may make it hard for him to improve his strength in the weight room.

Agreed here. I thought that a lot of Gallo's D that we saw - a few tips and steals in the passing lanes - were signs of court awareness. He isn't a strength defender by any means, but he does use his noggin and length to get to balls.

There was also 1 sequence which was telling for me at the end of the 3rd quarter, about 1 minute left. Knicks had the ball on a semi fast break with Duhon on the right side coming up the court. Al was a little behind Duhon and to Duhon's left (as was Gallo, but further to the left and towards the middle of the court), and Gallo kept pointing/telling Harrington to spread the court and go behind Duhon to the far right of the court to spread the defense out. I don't even think Harrington was paying attention or could even gather what he *should* have been doing to best help the fast break. And this was from a rookie 20-year-old in his 3rd game.

I won't get too hung up on him pointing fingers telling guys where to go...Lee was doing that in his rookie year too...We later found out he(Lee) didn't know where to go himself...He is a rook...More likely the case that he doesn't know where to go...But I'm pleased with his court awareness and instincts...

I'm not hung up on him point fingers but in this case he was 100% right. Don't care what Lee did during his rookie year.

In this case, he knew exactly where guys should be.

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1/19/2009  6:05 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Ira:

I don't get the Gallo-Frye comparison. Frye's one weapon was a medium range jump shot which was ineffective if someone played him tight. Gallo can take a three or put it on the floor and take a defender off the dribble. In his summer league game, he actually showed a pretty good crossover move. Also, he seems to play some d - something that no one could possibly accuse Frye of.

The concern about Gallo's strength is legit. I'm wondering if his back problems may make it hard for him to improve his strength in the weight room.

Agreed here. I thought that a lot of Gallo's D that we saw - a few tips and steals in the passing lanes - were signs of court awareness. He isn't a strength defender by any means, but he does use his noggin and length to get to balls.

There was also 1 sequence which was telling for me at the end of the 3rd quarter, about 1 minute left. Knicks had the ball on a semi fast break with Duhon on the right side coming up the court. Al was a little behind Duhon and to Duhon's left (as was Gallo, but further to the left and towards the middle of the court), and Gallo kept pointing/telling Harrington to spread the court and go behind Duhon to the far right of the court to spread the defense out. I don't even think Harrington was paying attention or could even gather what he *should* have been doing to best help the fast break. And this was from a rookie 20-year-old in his 3rd game.

I won't get too hung up on him pointing fingers telling guys where to go...Lee was doing that in his rookie year too...We later found out he(Lee) didn't know where to go himself...He is a rook...More likely the case that he doesn't know where to go...But I'm pleased with his court awareness and instincts...

I'm not hung up on him point fingers but in this case he was 100% right. Don't care what Lee did during his rookie year.

In this case, he knew exactly where guys should be.

I would be money that Harrington has a better grasp of where he should be on a court than Gallo does at this point in his career...
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1/19/2009  6:06 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by martin:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Ira:

I don't get the Gallo-Frye comparison. Frye's one weapon was a medium range jump shot which was ineffective if someone played him tight. Gallo can take a three or put it on the floor and take a defender off the dribble. In his summer league game, he actually showed a pretty good crossover move. Also, he seems to play some d - something that no one could possibly accuse Frye of.

The concern about Gallo's strength is legit. I'm wondering if his back problems may make it hard for him to improve his strength in the weight room.

Agreed here. I thought that a lot of Gallo's D that we saw - a few tips and steals in the passing lanes - were signs of court awareness. He isn't a strength defender by any means, but he does use his noggin and length to get to balls.

There was also 1 sequence which was telling for me at the end of the 3rd quarter, about 1 minute left. Knicks had the ball on a semi fast break with Duhon on the right side coming up the court. Al was a little behind Duhon and to Duhon's left (as was Gallo, but further to the left and towards the middle of the court), and Gallo kept pointing/telling Harrington to spread the court and go behind Duhon to the far right of the court to spread the defense out. I don't even think Harrington was paying attention or could even gather what he *should* have been doing to best help the fast break. And this was from a rookie 20-year-old in his 3rd game.

I won't get too hung up on him pointing fingers telling guys where to go...Lee was doing that in his rookie year too...We later found out he(Lee) didn't know where to go himself...He is a rook...More likely the case that he doesn't know where to go...But I'm pleased with his court awareness and instincts...

I'm not hung up on him point fingers but in this case he was 100% right. Don't care what Lee did during his rookie year.

In this case, he knew exactly where guys should be.

I would be money that Harrington has a better grasp of where he should be on a court than Gallo does at this point in his career...


I wouldn't put money on that...

Harrington seems like a smart man in interviews but in no way does it translate onto the court.
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1/19/2009  6:14 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by martin:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Ira:

I don't get the Gallo-Frye comparison. Frye's one weapon was a medium range jump shot which was ineffective if someone played him tight. Gallo can take a three or put it on the floor and take a defender off the dribble. In his summer league game, he actually showed a pretty good crossover move. Also, he seems to play some d - something that no one could possibly accuse Frye of.

The concern about Gallo's strength is legit. I'm wondering if his back problems may make it hard for him to improve his strength in the weight room.

Agreed here. I thought that a lot of Gallo's D that we saw - a few tips and steals in the passing lanes - were signs of court awareness. He isn't a strength defender by any means, but he does use his noggin and length to get to balls.

There was also 1 sequence which was telling for me at the end of the 3rd quarter, about 1 minute left. Knicks had the ball on a semi fast break with Duhon on the right side coming up the court. Al was a little behind Duhon and to Duhon's left (as was Gallo, but further to the left and towards the middle of the court), and Gallo kept pointing/telling Harrington to spread the court and go behind Duhon to the far right of the court to spread the defense out. I don't even think Harrington was paying attention or could even gather what he *should* have been doing to best help the fast break. And this was from a rookie 20-year-old in his 3rd game.

I won't get too hung up on him pointing fingers telling guys where to go...Lee was doing that in his rookie year too...We later found out he(Lee) didn't know where to go himself...He is a rook...More likely the case that he doesn't know where to go...But I'm pleased with his court awareness and instincts...

I'm not hung up on him point fingers but in this case he was 100% right. Don't care what Lee did during his rookie year.

In this case, he knew exactly where guys should be.

I would be money that Harrington has a better grasp of where he should be on a court than Gallo does at this point in his career...


I wouldn't put money on that...

Harrington seems like a smart man in interviews but in no way does it translate onto the court.

same. IMHO Harrington has played 1-on-1 ball since he got to NY. He plays spotty D. Doesn't know when to shoot or when to pass. You think a low FG% for a guy with so many physical talents translates to good IQ? For me it's a telling sign, especially for someone who has been in the league as long as he has.
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1/19/2009  6:29 PM
You can see that Gallinari's legs are not there yet- he has yet to penetrate to the basket off a one on one situation.
I would assume that MDA will eventually let him drive to the basket as his legs become game conditioned, but for now he seems relegated to finishing on fast breaks or taking jumpers from the corner.

He lost sight of the ball on one or two occasions defensively, and looked awkward at times, but I have to admit that his lateral movement and instincts on D are better than I expected and his footwork is usually pretty good. He can also play the passing lanes, and with his long arms this will be a defensive plus. Defense was the one thing people talked about when we drafted a European player. Glad to see that he does not hurt the team in that aspect of the game.

The play against Rose was almost a dream sequence- you could not have written a better finish for that brief encounter between the two teams top picks. I can guarantee you that if Rose had embarrassed Gallinari on that drive it would be a major topic of discussion amongst the Gallinari bashers on UK.

It was a nice progression from the first game. You can see that he is nervous and still a kid, but he can obviously contribute to this team, even as he is learning how to play in the NBA, which is a win/win situation for us.

Just hope that his back is healing well.
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1/19/2009  7:28 PM
Healing well? WTF is this guy bent over trying to fix his back in his second game? This **** is bothering me and I think we may have drafted someone who wont be there in a couple of years or be at a severe disadvantage.
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1/19/2009  7:37 PM
Wasn't Al Harrington known for his defensive skills in high school and the NBA. Now because he is a ball hog, he doesn't know how to play defense and Gallinari does? Oh man you guys got to stop with the Gallinari propaganda post.
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1/19/2009  7:51 PM
I didn't see the game but from the clips can say he will be better than a good NBA player. Strength? He's 19 years old and still growing. When Duncan was at Wake he dominated because of his length and inside chip shots and he was a 4 year player (I believe)-Frye was a 4 year player too. This kid would have been a college sophomore had he come through the U.S. system. In two years he may have grown into his body-he hasn't yet and still shows some extraordinary skills for a legit 6'11".
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1/19/2009  8:26 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:

Seriously, where are some of you getting these "special" feelings about Gallinari???

Like most euros, I see a guy that can shoot and because of that he likes to play on the perimeter. Aside from maybe court vision, I don't see any part of his game that is even good to average. He's not a good defender. He's not a good rebounder. His much talked about passing skills are so far nothing but a lot of talk.

What's different about Gallinari than all the other soft euros who liked to shoot and didn't do much else?

That's because you hated him before you even saw him play.

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1/19/2009  8:27 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by martin:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Ira:

I don't get the Gallo-Frye comparison. Frye's one weapon was a medium range jump shot which was ineffective if someone played him tight. Gallo can take a three or put it on the floor and take a defender off the dribble. In his summer league game, he actually showed a pretty good crossover move. Also, he seems to play some d - something that no one could possibly accuse Frye of.

The concern about Gallo's strength is legit. I'm wondering if his back problems may make it hard for him to improve his strength in the weight room.

Agreed here. I thought that a lot of Gallo's D that we saw - a few tips and steals in the passing lanes - were signs of court awareness. He isn't a strength defender by any means, but he does use his noggin and length to get to balls.

There was also 1 sequence which was telling for me at the end of the 3rd quarter, about 1 minute left. Knicks had the ball on a semi fast break with Duhon on the right side coming up the court. Al was a little behind Duhon and to Duhon's left (as was Gallo, but further to the left and towards the middle of the court), and Gallo kept pointing/telling Harrington to spread the court and go behind Duhon to the far right of the court to spread the defense out. I don't even think Harrington was paying attention or could even gather what he *should* have been doing to best help the fast break. And this was from a rookie 20-year-old in his 3rd game.

I won't get too hung up on him pointing fingers telling guys where to go...Lee was doing that in his rookie year too...We later found out he(Lee) didn't know where to go himself...He is a rook...More likely the case that he doesn't know where to go...But I'm pleased with his court awareness and instincts...

I'm not hung up on him point fingers but in this case he was 100% right. Don't care what Lee did during his rookie year.

In this case, he knew exactly where guys should be.

I would be money that Harrington has a better grasp of where he should be on a court than Gallo does at this point in his career...


I wouldn't put money on that...

Harrington seems like a smart man in interviews but in no way does it translate onto the court.

same. IMHO Harrington has played 1-on-1 ball since he got to NY. He plays spotty D. Doesn't know when to shoot or when to pass. You think a low FG% for a guy with so many physical talents translates to good IQ? For me it's a telling sign, especially for someone who has been in the league as long as he has.

Then it's a good thing he's an expiring after next season. Donnie played it right.
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1/19/2009  8:28 PM
4949, my good man. Is there really a need to quote the whole entire convo? lol.
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1/19/2009  8:30 PM
Posted by thejerk:

Healing well? WTF is this guy bent over trying to fix his back in his second game? This **** is bothering me and I think we may have drafted someone who wont be there in a couple of years or be at a severe disadvantage.

Goes back to my saying he should have conditioned himself for the rest of the year, and come back stronger next year, but I was told otherwise. I think we should enjoy the kids play while we can.
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1/19/2009  8:33 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

4949, my good man. Is there really a need to quote the whole entire convo? lol.

I just didn't feel like editing it smaller. Is it taking up your space on the thread? For that, I am sorry.
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1/19/2009  8:34 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by nyk4ever:

4949, my good man. Is there really a need to quote the whole entire convo? lol.

I just didn't feel like editing it smaller. Is it taking up your space on the thread? For that, I am sorry.

Don't worry, we forgive you.


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1/19/2009  8:35 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by nyk4ever:

4949, my good man. Is there really a need to quote the whole entire convo? lol.

I just didn't feel like editing it smaller. Is it taking up your space on the thread? For that, I am sorry.

It's not a big deal. Just makes things harder to read.
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1/19/2009  10:54 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:

Seriously, where are some of you getting these "special" feelings about Gallinari???

Like most euros, I see a guy that can shoot and because of that he likes to play on the perimeter. Aside from maybe court vision, I don't see any part of his game that is even good to average. He's not a good defender. He's not a good rebounder. His much talked about passing skills are so far nothing but a lot of talk.

What's different about Gallinari than all the other soft euros who liked to shoot and didn't do much else?

That's because you hated him before you even saw him play.

And I understand that others are going to build him up even before they saw him play. That's fine. But what has he done in the 2 games that warrant the word "special" to be used to describe it?

Dude, it must get tiring playing the Grinch every day of your life.
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Danilo looked really good today. He was very active around the court. He looks like he will be a scorer and maybe a player that can play some point forward. The key is for him to stay healthy. His shot is there so if he can develop a good head fake watch out. So far so good. I think it is unfair to compare him to someone else. Let's let Danilo become his own person.
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