Posted by TMS:

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by TMS:

i don't see anyone fawning over this kid other than maybe 1 or 2 who've already said he's something special... the rest are just making observations about his game & how his talents might translate in this system... that's a lot more reasonable than proclaiming him to be a bust before even seeing him play a single NBA game.

What he's done on the court the past two games is being over analyzed by many Knick fans. More appreciation comes from him being able to play vs anything else.

i agree it's being overly analyzed, but i can't really fault Knick fans for analyzing this kid's game after all the buildup leading to him finally seeing some NBA action... it's natural for us to be excited to see what he can do... i don't see any one calling him a young Tim Duncan like i do for Brook Lopez... someone made a Larry Bird comparison before the season but that's the extreme & equally as ridiculous as those calling him a bust before they've even watched him play.

[Edited by - TMS on 01-19-2009 10:53 PM]

I saw a few positives and negatives I just think there's way too much read into what he's doing out there. I doubt there would be as much stated if the kid had a bad game by those who are glorifying everything he's doing.

i think it's fair to analyze a rookie just like any rookie... just can't too over the top w/the comparisons & projections is all... that works both ways... u have to expect any rook to go through some rough spots during his development just like u have to expect him to show some glimpses of promise.

Posted by djsunyc:

isn't it alot more fun to just sit back and watch how he develops instead of microanalyzing every little thing 2 games into his nba career?

Agreed. So far he looks like he can play basketball. I think some fans might be over hyping Danilo a lot. However the beauty is he is now playing and fans have a rookie player that they can root for and does not look like the bust they thought the Knicks drafted. As far as over hyping the Knicks manage believes Danilo will be as good as Dirk. I heard directly from someone close to the Knicks. Hopefully Galinari can make a name for himself rather than people saying he is the next anything.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Paladin, I posted the positives about Gallinari in the game thread. I said he a good game going 1/3 against the 76ers. I said he has a nice stroke and has ball handling skills. I indicated that I don't like the fist pumping but as I stated he is a rookie and getting some real action after a serious injury. I made a comment about Miller faking him out pretty bad but it was innocent. I even stated you can down sit Q or Timmy because we are in the state of rebuilding as everyone was saying when he was injured.

Damn, we should have gotten at least the #3 pick and all this stuff would have been avoided. No infighting. I don't know about Gallinari being special but I do know that Derrick Rose is indeed special.

Rose was the guy I wanted, too, and yes, he fits that "special" category IMO, probably the only one from this draft in that category at this point (Although Lopez might just get there by the end of the year.)

As for Gallinari, it is time to look at what he does on the court and how he might project as a player in 2-3 years. It is time to look at how he changes his game to adapt to the NBA game, how he reacts when guys try to overpower him, and whether he can perform when he is being roughed up. Typical European rites of passage for him. I want to see him rebound in traffic (he will be manhandled if he does not box out.), show some kind of game in the post, and take it to the basket like he was able to do in the Italian league. I still don't know if he will be starter quality, but nobody can convince me that what he has shown in his recent 2 games is not encouraging. Lets just see if he builds on these 2 games, and his back stays healthy.

Picking Lopez, and perhaps Gordon, would have satisfied everyone, I assume. We would all be drooling over Lopez if he was a Knick. (Was there any talk in the organization of us taking him?) I will say with no hesitation, that if I knew Lopez could play like he is playing, and remember, he is still only 20, we should have taken him because you can't teach a guy to be a 7'1" center who can rebound, block shots, score, hit foul shots, etc..

My big issue at this point is to hear analysis of the kid's game, and not the other stuff that is continuously thrown out about him. I like to debate, but it is time to look at what is before us, not throw out the same ignorant comments that many on this board continue to post.

Posted by islesfan:

Knicks fans, at least what's left of them, reek of desperation. That's the only way to explain the drastically lowered expectations which has led to giddiness over shaky outings, pointing somewhere on defense and even blown layup attempts.

Can anyone please give me concrete examples of what Gallinari has done so far to warrant fawning over?

He's able to walk. Now that's progress!

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by TMS:

i think it's fair to analyze a rookie just like any rookie... just can't too over the top w/the comparisons & projections is all... that works both ways... u have to expect any rook to go through some rough spots during his development just like u have to expect him to show some glimpses of promise.

I totally agree. I wonder why you don't see fit to directly criticize the people who make ridiculous pronouncements in favor of Gallinari though.

but I have... I've always said the Larry Bird comparisons were ridiculous & way premature.

Posted by TMS:

Rose was the guy I wanted, too, and yes, he fits that "special" category IMO, probably the only one from this draft in that category at this point (Although Lopez might just get there by the end of the year.)

OJ Mayo's pretty special too.

Have not seen enough of him, but he looks like a stud, and he is a legit SG in terms of size and strength. I just don't know how complete his game is.

If the Lee to Memphis trade had gone down we would could have had either Westbrook or Mayo, and Gallinari or someone else. Getting Mayo might have satisfied our need for a shooter, and then we might have taken Lopez instead of Gallinari. I would love to find out what happened between the Knicks and Memphis regarding that trade, and whether or not it was more than a rumor.

Posted by Paladin55:

Posted by TMS:

Rose was the guy I wanted, too, and yes, he fits that "special" category IMO, probably the only one from this draft in that category at this point (Although Lopez might just get there by the end of the year.)

OJ Mayo's pretty special too.

Have not seen enough of him, but he looks like a stud, and he is a legit SG in terms of size and strength. I just don't know how complete his game is.

If the Lee to Memphis trade had gone down we would could have had either Westbrook or Mayo, and Gallinari or someone else. Getting Mayo might have satisfied our need for a shooter, and then we might have taken Lopez instead of Gallinari. I would love to find out what happened between the Knicks and Memphis regarding that trade, and whether or not it was more than a rumor.

if only... *sigh*

Posted by Ira:

Strengths - Good shooter, handles the ball well for his size, seems to play smart, good passer and team player, quick feet on d

Weaknesses - Slow, not strong enough, doesn't board well for a big man

Yeah, definitely looks weak on the glass - just stands around and watches. At 6'10", get in there and help out for Christ's Sake.