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nyk4ever
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10/8/2008  9:44 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Elite:

Also, When Bosh was in, we were getting destroyed. Bosh was a maniac. If he would have played normal minutes we would have gotten blown out.

i know there's dirk, but i think bosh is the best shooting big in the game.

Bosh was the reason Team USA won the gold, if he's not on that team, they don't win.
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10/8/2008  9:46 PM
These Knicks had enough balls to shoot '34' times behind the three point line. If they could have hit just one more, then we would have won! I'm proud of them!!!
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/8/2008  9:55 PM
If the Knicks are going to play this style every nite then Curry is useless in this system. The guy will drop and it won't be funny.
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10/8/2008  9:56 PM
If they start hitting a better % of 3's and cutting down on some of the turnovers, they could be more competitive than they have been in years. They were game tonight.
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10/8/2008  10:05 PM
Lee and Randolph looked good together offensively, but defensively they were putrid. How many easy layups did pg Calderon have in the half court set? He literally took it right at Randolph and Lee and not only didn't they block it, but they couldn't even make him change his shot. We need a defender in the paint badly.
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10/8/2008  10:10 PM
Posted by Uptown:

Lee and Randolph looked good together offensively, but defensively they were putrid. How many easy layups did pg Calderon have in the half court set? He literally took it right at Randolph and Lee and not only didn't they block it, but they couldn't even make him change his shot. We need a defender in the paint badly.
It's been a glaring hole and now even more so. This is why MDA was sad to see Jared go down. He at least has a chance to block some shots and he moves faster than ZBo. I really hope that we'll be able to get Jared back soon or make a trade to get someone in here to man the middle at least for good stretches of a game.
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10/8/2008  10:14 PM
We took way way way to many 3 point shots. Zach Randolph kind of spoiled a good game by chucking 4. 88 shots 34 3s. But there are some solid positives. They are going to have to pay David Lee 10mm+ per--they should try to sign him now for 45-50 mm over 6 because if he plays anything close to tonight for the year that number might be close to maximum $$
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10/8/2008  10:15 PM
we had a lot of wide open threes and some easy baskets on the break, but we missed so many threes. this is why I can see Houston making the team and gallanari getting playing time.. we just can't miss that many threes and win....

I saw good ball and player movement, but some of these guys are going to have to break those old bad habbits they have...
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10/8/2008  10:23 PM
Posted by Uptown:

Lee and Randolph looked good together offensively, but defensively they were putrid. How many easy layups did pg Calderon have in the half court set? He literally took it right at Randolph and Lee and not only didn't they block it, but they couldn't even make him change his shot. We need a defender in the paint badly.

Let me make one thing clear. We lost on offense. Forget about defense. It's a non issue. I'm still hyped of the numbers they put up on the offensive end, in their 'first' try at it.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/8/2008  10:24 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

If the Knicks are going to play this style every nite then Curry is useless in this system. The guy will drop and it won't be funny.
Curry is useless in every system


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10/8/2008  10:26 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

We took way way way to many 3 point shots. Zach Randolph kind of spoiled a good game by chucking 4. 88 shots 34 3s. But there are some solid positives. They are going to have to pay David Lee 10mm+ per--they should try to sign him now for 45-50 mm over 6 because if he plays anything close to tonight for the year that number might be close to maximum $$

These guys have balls! Their gonna make those shots sooner or later and when they do 'look out NBA'!
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/8/2008  10:33 PM
Posted by tkf:

we had a lot of wide open threes and some easy baskets on the break, but we missed so many threes. this is why I can see Houston making the team and gallanari getting playing time.. we just can't miss that many threes and win....

I saw good ball and player movement, but some of these guys are going to have to break those old bad habbits they have...

Im sorry but those 3s are going to be there just by ball movement every single night in this offense. Remeber Qs attemps and makes in that system with the suns.
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10/8/2008  11:12 PM
Posted by knicks1248:
Posted by tkf:

we had a lot of wide open threes and some easy baskets on the break, but we missed so many threes. this is why I can see Houston making the team and gallanari getting playing time.. we just can't miss that many threes and win....

I saw good ball and player movement, but some of these guys are going to have to break those old bad habbits they have...

Im sorry but those 3s are going to be there just by ball movement every single night in this offense. Remeber Qs attemps and makes in that system with the suns.

why are you sorry, I agree, I just think we need to have guys who can hit those threes, and I think Houston will be perfect for that, as well as gallo..
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10/8/2008  11:32 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by Uptown:

Lee and Randolph looked good together offensively, but defensively they were putrid. How many easy layups did pg Calderon have in the half court set? He literally took it right at Randolph and Lee and not only didn't they block it, but they couldn't even make him change his shot. We need a defender in the paint badly.
It's been a glaring hole and now even more so. This is why MDA was sad to see Jared go down. He at least has a chance to block some shots and he moves faster than ZBo. I really hope that we'll be able to get Jared back soon or make a trade to get someone in here to man the middle at least for good stretches of a game.

Are you kidding. Jefferies for all this defensive talk is about the same as Lee. Jefferies can guard 2/3 effectively sometimes but he can't guard 4 and 5s. Balkman and Chandler were the leading shotblockers on this team last season. Before that Balkman. Jefferies doesn't have the mindset to guard bigger players for a long duration. Jefferies picks up silly fouls far too easy.
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10/9/2008  2:00 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

We took way way way to many 3 point shots. Zach Randolph kind of spoiled a good game by chucking 4. 88 shots 34 3s. But there are some solid positives. They are going to have to pay David Lee 10mm+ per--they should try to sign him now for 45-50 mm over 6 because if he plays anything close to tonight for the year that number might be close to maximum $$

Lee worked great with Curry 2 seasons ago (last season was a joke as we all know). Lee seems to work great with Zach tonight. The common denominator seems to be DAVID LEE. Hey, if NeNe and Wilcox can at least demand 60M why can't Lee?

One on One in halfcourt and One on One on defense the guy is a disaster let's face the truth here. Yet, used in a cutting offense and a help rebound-defense? He's gold. He will get paid whether or not we do it.

Example:

C-Dwight Howard
F-David Lee

Yeah, I'd have a hard time believing that the Magic wouldn't pay him if they had the cap space.

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10/9/2008  8:25 AM
Posted by Uptown:

Lee and Randolph looked good together offensively, but defensively they were putrid. How many easy layups did pg Calderon have in the half court set? He literally took it right at Randolph and Lee and not only didn't they block it, but they couldn't even make him change his shot. We need a defender in the paint badly.

I didn't realize Lee & Randolph were supposed to keep Calderon out of the lane. I thought that is what our guards were supposed to do.
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10/9/2008  8:51 AM
Nates ok (still maintain Garcia was the pick at 21)...marbury is still the best guard...and I'll believe it once a full 82 is in the books that MDA is banking his stint in NY on a Duhon-Crawford starting backcourt
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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10/9/2008  9:33 AM
Posted by McK1:

Nates ok (still maintain Garcia was the pick at 21)...marbury is still the best guard...and I'll believe it once a full 82 is in the books that MDA is banking his stint in NY on a Duhon-Crawford starting backcourt


I don't think Duhan Crawford is gunna cut it... Especially with Q Rich at 3
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10/9/2008  9:53 AM
Posted by Elite:
Posted by McK1:

Nates ok (still maintain Garcia was the pick at 21)...marbury is still the best guard...and I'll believe it once a full 82 is in the books that MDA is banking his stint in NY on a Duhon-Crawford starting backcourt


I don't think Duhan Crawford is gunna cut it... Especially with Q Rich at 3

IMHO, going with Duhon-Crawford is like Parcells going into the 98 Jets season with Neil O'Donell and Adrian Murrell
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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10/9/2008  9:59 AM
Posted by McK1:

Nates ok (still maintain Garcia was the pick at 21)...marbury is still the best guard...and I'll believe it once a full 82 is in the books that MDA is banking his stint in NY on a Duhon-Crawford starting backcourt

steph has been castrated. the acquisition of crawford hurt him the most.
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