Posted by crzymdups:

ok.

so, then, how did Zeke trade our first round pick in 2004, 2006 and 2007? was it because in 2006 it was technically an "option to swap picks"? there are ways around that rule, i think, that could allow them to trade the 2011 pick.

Posted by purple012870:

Here's the deal that should go down:

New York Knicks

Incoming Players
Javaris Crittenton
Salary: $1,381,560 Years Remaining: 1

Marko Jaric
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 3

Darko Milicic
Salary: $7,020,000 Years Remaining: 2


Outgoing Players: Zach Randolph, Nate Robinson, Mardy CollinsMemphis Grizzlies

Incoming Players
Zach Randolph
Salary: $14,666,667 Years Remaining: 3

Nate Robinson
Salary: $2,020,179 Years Remaining: 1

Mardy Collins
Salary: $1,034,760 Years Remaining: 1


Outgoing Players: Javaris Crittenton, Marko Jaric, Darko Milicic


Grizz:

C: Gasol/Iranian dude
PF: Zach/Warrick
SF: Gay/Buckner
SG: Mayo/Nate
PG: Conley/Lowry

NYK:

C: Curry/Darko
PF: Lee/Darko/JJ2
SF: Chandler/Gallinari
SG: Craw/Marco
PG: Duhon/Crittendon

Posted by stanleybostitch:

Do it. Do it now. Most important thing this trade does is change the storyline for the upcoming season, and this shouldn't be overlooked. Instead of the usual headcase parade (I'm looking at you, Marbury and Zach), we can focus on basketball, and more importantly D'Antoni can get the team focused on basketball.

Posted by crzymdups:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2008/09/adriana_lima_comes_with_the_tr.html

The latest I'm hearing on the Zach Randolph-to-Memphis talks is that the Grizzlies want a first-round pick from the Knicks. Getting a bit greedy, no? Donnie has countered by saying if he's giving up a first-rounder, he wants something more back with Darko Milicic and Marko Jaric.

if the grizz want a first round pick, I don't want this trade. unless we get Lowry or Crittenton and the pick is heavily protected.

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by crzymdups:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2008/09/adriana_lima_comes_with_the_tr.html

The latest I'm hearing on the Zach Randolph-to-Memphis talks is that the Grizzlies want a first-round pick from the Knicks. Getting a bit greedy, no? Donnie has countered by saying if he's giving up a first-rounder, he wants something more back with Darko Milicic and Marko Jaric.

if the grizz want a first round pick, I don't want this trade. unless we get Lowry or Crittenton and the pick is heavily protected.

This First Round Pick Demand once again comes from a blogger named Tommy Dee who apparently is the only one who gets info from a NBA Source who will only talk to Tommy Dee and the great inside information seems to once again be that the other team wanting Zach ALSO wants a 1st round draft pick.

When someone has their own direct inside information and has the same information and hasn't heard it all second hand from Tommy Dee - then I'd take notice.

Until then, it's literally a made up rumor on top of an rumor by a guy who really isn't proven as a journalist - at least in my opinion.

who is Tommy Dee? i've never heard of him? do you have the link?

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by crzymdups:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2008/09/adriana_lima_comes_with_the_tr.html

The latest I'm hearing on the Zach Randolph-to-Memphis talks is that the Grizzlies want a first-round pick from the Knicks. Getting a bit greedy, no? Donnie has countered by saying if he's giving up a first-rounder, he wants something more back with Darko Milicic and Marko Jaric.

if the grizz want a first round pick, I don't want this trade. unless we get Lowry or Crittenton and the pick is heavily protected.

This First Round Pick Demand once again comes from a blogger named Tommy Dee who apparently is the only one who gets info from a NBA Source who will only talk to Tommy Dee and the great inside information seems to once again be that the other team wanting Zach ALSO wants a 1st round draft pick.

When someone has their own direct inside information and has the same information and hasn't heard it all second hand from Tommy Dee - then I'd take notice.

Until then, it's literally a made up rumor on top of an rumor by a guy who really isn't proven as a journalist - at least in my opinion.

who is Tommy Dee? i've never heard of him? do you have the link?

Yeah...

A league source has told RealGM contributor Tommy Dee that the Memphis Grizzlies are demanding a first round pick along with Zach Randolph in exchange for Darko Milicic and Marko Jaric.

Walsh in return is asking for a young player, assuming either Javaris Crittenton, Kyle Lowry or Hakim Warrick or the best expiring contract (Antoine Walker) if he is to surrender a first round pick.

tommy dees blog

I tend to avoid his blogs now because I just don't believe he's a credible source --- and is more just a blogger adding his opinion to try to drum up more interest in his blog than anything else. Nothing wrong with that but it's just not my cup of tea so to speak.

Posted by EwingsGlass:

Posted by djsunyc:


2009 pick (can't b/c 2010 traded)
2010 pick already traded
2011 pick (can't b/c 2010 traded)
2012 pick can be traded

Technically, the future pick that we need to give up can be given either in 2009 or 2010. But, it is probably correct to assume the Knicks will keep this year's pick. They need to tank this year and be playoff bound for 2010 in order to entice FAs.

We used our 2008 - we could have traded it if we wanted to.
We HAVE to use our own 2009 because we HAVE to trade our 2010 to Utah in the Marbury deal.
That means we HAVE to use our 2011 pick.
This means the next available tradeable non-consecutive first round NYK draft pick is: 2012.