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VDesai
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7/7/2008  1:53 PM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by VDesai:

If you're a Knick fan and a rational human being

Is it possible to be both?

HAHA!! Seriously V, I agree 100%.

Actually, you do make a great point there...
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7/7/2008  2:42 PM
What I don't get is for the last 4yrs there have been many complaints about the team & guys like Marbury, Curry, Randolph.

How they are low Iq players, how they are selfish players, how they don't play with passion or heart, how they don't play with intensity, how there soft, how they don't have any leadership.

So we draft a guy who has a high Iq, unselfish, plays with passion & heart, intense, maturity, leader of his team in the euroleague, go to guy in crunch time, steps up in big games.

And instead of being happy that our new managment has added a player that brings attributes that most have been begging for over the last 4yrs. Instead people are complaining because its said he isn't athletic?

Its one thing if they said the guy was a slow, soft, scorer with no athletism and defense. But they say the guy plays with heart, passion, leadership, maturity. I think in the end stuff like that ends up overcoming defieciencys like stiff legged. I guess we will see.
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7/7/2008  2:46 PM
Posted by VDesai:

If you're a Knick fan and a rational human being, I don't know how you can look at the Gallo pick with anything other than cautious optimism. You don't have enough information to make an eval on the guy in either direction, and since you're a fan you have to hope he's going to be good, even if you're a little big guarded in your enthusiasm b/c of past Knick busts.

There's nothing wrong with being excited after reading a nice interview (like this one) or when talking about what you think his skillset might be. As a fan you're supposed to want to find reasons to like him.

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7/7/2008  4:13 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

What I don't get is for the last 4yrs there have been many complaints about the team & guys like Marbury, Curry, Randolph.

How they are low Iq players, how they are selfish players, how they don't play with passion or heart, how they don't play with intensity, how there soft, how they don't have any leadership.

So we draft a guy who has a high Iq, unselfish, plays with passion & heart, intense, maturity, leader of his team in the euroleague, go to guy in crunch time, steps up in big games.

And instead of being happy that our new managment has added a player that brings attributes that most have been begging for over the last 4yrs. Instead people are complaining because its said he isn't athletic?

Its one thing if they said the guy was a slow, soft, scorer with no athletism and defense. But they say the guy plays with heart, passion, leadership, maturity. I think in the end stuff like that ends up overcoming defieciencys like stiff legged. I guess we will see.

I totally agree. It's funny cuz a guy like Gallo isn't much different from Lee. No one in NY really gave him much respect. The thing is he's one of the few guys on the team that gives a darn and plays with heart. Imagine if all of the players played with as much fire and heart as Lee. Well we just added a kid that is very much like him, but with far more skills.

Many of the combo guards like Bayless or Gordon are like sexy sport cars. They look really impressive until you need to bring home piece of furniture or take a bunch of kids to the park. You quickly find out that they're very limited in usefullness and don't really lead to winning. Gallo is a ball mover and a guy that fits the bill for what we want to have on this team in the future.
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7/7/2008  7:19 PM
Posted by purple012870:

PURPLE:

How about this? How about we watch the fckn guy & see what he has?

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TMS:
but then u can't say "I told u so" later if things pan out the way you want them to... that's the key.

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PURPLE:
I started the thread b/c it seems to me that Gallinari has a very good skill set, especially for a 19 year old in the 6'10" range. I'm excited to see him. Nothing more, nothing less. I have not seen the guy play a game yet. How could I or anybody else say I told you so (whether they're predicting Hall of Fame or Hall of Crap or anything in between)???

believe me, there will be people coming out of the woodwork saying "This is why we needed to take Bayless" or "I told you we should have drafted Randolph" or any # of other "I told you so" threads popping up if Gallo goes out & struggles in his first few games... for some posters that's the most important part of posting here, not seeing this team succeed, but to be validated in their never ending quest to be proven right.
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7/7/2008  8:45 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by purple012870:

PURPLE:

How about this? How about we watch the fckn guy & see what he has?

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TMS:
but then u can't say "I told u so" later if things pan out the way you want them to... that's the key.

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PURPLE:
I started the thread b/c it seems to me that Gallinari has a very good skill set, especially for a 19 year old in the 6'10" range. I'm excited to see him. Nothing more, nothing less. I have not seen the guy play a game yet. How could I or anybody else say I told you so (whether they're predicting Hall of Fame or Hall of Crap or anything in between)???

believe me, there will be people coming out of the woodwork saying "This is why we needed to take Bayless" or "I told you we should have drafted Randolph" or any # of other "I told you so" threads popping up if Gallo goes out & struggles in his first few games... for some posters that's the most important part of posting here, not seeing this team succeed, but to be validated in their never ending quest to be proven right.

So now its ok to drink the kool-aid?
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7/7/2008  9:02 PM
not sure i'm getting the sarcasm... i'm pretty middle of the road when it comes to this team & always have been.
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7/7/2008  9:08 PM
Posted by TMS:

not sure i'm getting the sarcasm... i'm pretty middle of the road when it comes to this team & always have been.

My meaning is that Isles has always been critical of the Knick moves under Thomas, why is it now that everyone has a problem with it? So is it safe to drink the kool-aid now? It is an open question to many posters on this board. Why all the venom directed at Isles now?
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7/7/2008  9:35 PM
i ain't directing venom at isles persay... i've been posting w/isles for the longest & we've had disagreements & agreements on different issues... i'm just referring to the overall pattern that's proliferated on these forums for the longest of always wanting to be right on each & every topic & never admitting fault in any of one's own opinions when they don't come to fruition... it gets to be stale & so predictable.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-07-2008 6:57 PM]
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7/8/2008  2:09 AM
on vacation but had a few moments to catch up on things here...

a question to ask is, how much was the drafting of gallinari a business decision?

i know the knicks definitely made it a point to bring in a foreign player this offseason judging by their international tourist attendance last year as well as expanding their global appeal. (remember the navarro chants)

i equate the knicks drafting gallinari to the bobcats drafting raymond felton.

cats took felton b/c they wanted a pg and felt it would be a good business move to take the local product.

knicks know they need help in many positions, with sf and a shooter being one. gallinari fit the bill there and it was a good business move to take him.

imho, i see this guy at peak, being a hedo/tim thomas type of guy. nothing wrong with that, but just understand that he's probably going to end up a rotation guy that may put up 16-18 ppg and will almost certainly provide zero defense.

this was a safe draft pick and a very smart business decision b/c if he can shoot, then he will get opportunities under d'antoni the next two years.
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7/8/2008  2:30 AM
in addition, the hiring of d'antoni was also a safe hire and smart business decision.

at the very least, walsh is making safe choices that also make sense from a business perspective.
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7/8/2008  8:17 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

in addition, the hiring of d'antoni was also a safe hire and smart business decision.

at the very least, walsh is making safe choices that also make sense from a business perspective.


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7/8/2008  12:09 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

on vacation but had a few moments to catch up on things here...

a question to ask is, how much was the drafting of gallinari a business decision?

i know the knicks definitely made it a point to bring in a foreign player this offseason judging by their international tourist attendance last year as well as expanding their global appeal. (remember the navarro chants)

i equate the knicks drafting gallinari to the bobcats drafting raymond felton.

cats took felton b/c they wanted a pg and felt it would be a good business move to take the local product.

knicks know they need help in many positions, with sf and a shooter being one. gallinari fit the bill there and it was a good business move to take him.

imho, i see this guy at peak, being a hedo/tim thomas type of guy. nothing wrong with that, but just understand that he's probably going to end up a rotation guy that may put up 16-18 ppg and will almost certainly provide zero defense.

this was a safe draft pick and a very smart business decision b/c if he can shoot, then he will get opportunities under d'antoni the next two years.

The business aspect of it is probably what got him the nod over Alexander or trading down after Westbrook was taken.
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7/8/2008  12:12 PM
I'm not sure I agree with the business aspect of it. It's one thing if its a player like Yao Ming or Yi who both come from China and is a NBA hotbed, but I haven't heard of any spike in ratings from Italy with the Bargnani draft pick or anything like that. I could be wrong, but I haven't heard of anything like that.
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7/8/2008  12:18 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

on vacation but had a few moments to catch up on things here...

a question to ask is, how much was the drafting of gallinari a business decision?

i know the knicks definitely made it a point to bring in a foreign player this offseason judging by their international tourist attendance last year as well as expanding their global appeal. (remember the navarro chants)

i equate the knicks drafting gallinari to the bobcats drafting raymond felton.

cats took felton b/c they wanted a pg and felt it would be a good business move to take the local product.

knicks know they need help in many positions, with sf and a shooter being one. gallinari fit the bill there and it was a good business move to take him.

imho, i see this guy at peak, being a hedo/tim thomas type of guy. nothing wrong with that, but just understand that he's probably going to end up a rotation guy that may put up 16-18 ppg and will almost certainly provide zero defense.

this was a safe draft pick and a very smart business decision b/c if he can shoot, then he will get opportunities under d'antoni the next two years.


There are 10 ways to spin everything. Didn't you see before the draft the Knicks probably wouldn't take Gallinari cause he'd be too tough of a sell to the crowd.

I think in the end it was pretty simple. They went on their eval and took the guy with the most star potential in their eyes.
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7/8/2008  5:52 PM
I'm sad to see that some really don't feel there is any integrity in a guy like Walsh to pick a player based on talent and fit for the style of play. This wasn't some business move. The guy is a legit prospect and as much was made about Bargnani this kid has shown far more in his career so far. There's a greater chance of this kid turning into the next Dirk than AB. Will it happen we don't know, but I think he was a legit #6 draft pick and deserved to be taken at that point.

In terms of him being a Hedo or Tim Thomas, well i'll take what Hedo is now, but Tim is a real Diss IMO. That would mean the kid never lives up to his potential. Hedo was never expected to be some All Star player, but right now he's doing well for himself.

What it seems from what is written about him is that Gallo has that fire in the belly you need to be a good player. I hope this is true. We already see that he's shown leadership skills and no fear.
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7/8/2008  6:11 PM
There are no guarantees with any pick. But in the end, this kid has as much chance of becoming a major player as anyone who was there when we picked.
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7/8/2008  7:18 PM
Posted by Ira:

There are no guarantees with any pick. But in the end, this kid has as much chance of becoming a major player as anyone who was there when we picked.

It would seem that some here don't really believe that about him. I think they're basing too much of their opinion on the failure of those who came before him. If you look at what he's done so far at an early age, it's more than many of the other Euro's who flopped. He's at least got a body of work so far that legit.
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