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Vmart
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6/14/2008  11:33 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

VMART: Why do you watch the games if you think they're fixed?

I like Basketball. I always liked basketball it doesn't matter if its a pick up game or high school basketball game. that is why I'm, so down on the NBA because they are tarnishing the great game. The NBA has lost sight of what the game is about, they are more into promoting matchups, satisfying ratings and basically are selling a product which are players not the game. I think there is fraud going on to get the most popular player in the finals and that is why it is disgusting. Giving preference to so called superstars over others doesn't sit well with me and it shouldn't sit well with anyone who is a fan of basketball. I watch and hope that they can clean up the BS that is tarnishing the game I grew up with. This season is one of the most disgusting season that I have encountered in basketball. With what he league allowed the Lakers and Celtics to do is God aweful. This is why people say that basketball is fixed. The NBA put this Lakers-Celtics matchup on a platter. I'd rather be watching the Hawks and GS in the finals it might have been more fun then to watch these two retreads given donations by the league. What about us as a Knicks fan what does this tell you that you are basically insignificant. If fans keep agreeing to the BS then the NBA is gonna continue to dish the BS. When is it going to stop, thats why I want an investigation done and I want the game to be pure again.

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6/14/2008  11:38 AM
How exactly did the league assure us of the Lakers/Celtics finals? Are you speaking of the two trades they pulled off? If so, the games must still be played, so how did the league help the Lakers/Celtics get through the long season and through the playoffs unscathed?
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6/14/2008  11:58 AM
Posted by Uptown:

How exactly did the league assure us of the Lakers/Celtics finals? Are you speaking of the two trades they pulled off? If so, the games must still be played, so how did the league help the Lakers/Celtics get through the long season and through the playoffs unscathed?


Everyone is questioning the two trades. Phil Jackson even questioned the Garnett trade, JVG even went so far as to calling the two trades donations. The Grizzlies owner even said it was a unfavorable trade especially when other teams would have given better offers they settled on Kwame Brown. Once the teams are given the best talent getting trough the reg season was the easy part, they are already a superior team then the others. In the playoffs speculations are going around that the refs are involved in fixing the out come of the games. There is your finals right there. Only thing you can give credit to Lakers and celtics is they made chemistry.

I don't know what you guys make out of this but I find this to be a F' you kinda thing towards the other fan bases. I don't know about you guys but as a KNicks fan I'm pissed with this finals. Its not suppose to be like this.
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6/14/2008  12:50 PM
I don't get how the Garnett trade was unfair, the T'Wolves got Al Jefferson who is a young superstar in his own right..
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6/14/2008  1:26 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I don't get how the Garnett trade was unfair, the T'Wolves got Al Jefferson who is a young superstar in his own right..

They were getting better offers for Garnett too. But in the end it became a shady deal between two friends. Al Jefferson is a good player but is he any different than Zach Randolph? He put up some guady numbers on a losing team. They were getting better offers I think the Lakers and Bulls put together better deals.
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6/14/2008  1:43 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I don't get how the Garnett trade was unfair, the T'Wolves got Al Jefferson who is a young superstar in his own right..

They were getting better offers for Garnett too. But in the end it became a shady deal between two friends. Al Jefferson is a good player but is he any different than Zach Randolph? He put up some guady numbers on a losing team. They were getting better offers I think the Lakers and Bulls put together better deals.
You *think* they put up better deals? Your anger seems awfully confident for someone who just thinks there were better deals. None of us is even in a position to believe strongly--let alone know--that there were or weren't better deals.

Why were the boring Spurs in the finals just one year ago? Is this fixing something new that wasn't going around last year when they made it to the finals?
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6/14/2008  3:06 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I don't get how the Garnett trade was unfair, the T'Wolves got Al Jefferson who is a young superstar in his own right..

They were getting better offers for Garnett too. But in the end it became a shady deal between two friends. Al Jefferson is a good player but is he any different than Zach Randolph? He put up some guady numbers on a losing team. They were getting better offers I think the Lakers and Bulls put together better deals.


First, if Garnett goes to the Lakers, that would feed into your conspiracy theories even more. Second, Al Jefferson is a much better propect than Tyrus Thomas who seemed to be in the center of the Bulls package.

I agree that two friends got together to make this deal. And McHale may have been more partial towards Ainge, but this had nothing to do with an NBA-league wide conspiracy. Same with Memphis. I dont see how billionaire owners (particulary Memphis and Minnesota) can benefit by helping the league make other teams better besides thier own. Whats in it for the owners on the losing end? Can't be cash? So whats the benefit?
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6/14/2008  3:09 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I don't get how the Garnett trade was unfair, the T'Wolves got Al Jefferson who is a young superstar in his own right..

They were getting better offers for Garnett too. But in the end it became a shady deal between two friends. Al Jefferson is a good player but is he any different than Zach Randolph? He put up some guady numbers on a losing team. They were getting better offers I think the Lakers and Bulls put together better deals.

i think of all the gm's that have traded big time players the past few years...mchale seems to have gotten the best deal out of it. a slew of young guys...a young big that can play in the post...cap relief AND draft picks. kg was 30 when he traded him too.

zach's value is nowhere near jeff's...not even close. zach has a red flag attached to him league wide. portland traded him for steve f'n francis (who they waived eating 2 big years of contract) and brian cook.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-14-2008 3:09 PM]
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6/14/2008  4:20 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

i think of all the gm's that have traded big time players the past few years...mchale seems to have gotten the best deal out of it. a slew of young guys...a young big that can play in the post...cap relief AND draft picks. kg was 30 when he traded him too.

the Heat won a championship by trading for Shaq... i think that's the ultimate prize for any franchise whenever you make a trade... if BOS wins one because of that trade for KG they'd have made out better than any team could have imagined going from a bottom dweller in the NBA 1 year to championship the next... that rarely ever happens in the NBA.
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6/15/2008  5:32 PM
I will say that no matter what happens in this series, the Lakers are in great shape in the future. They made it to the finals WITHOUT Bynum. If he fully recovers, this is a very scary team.
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6/15/2008  8:57 PM
tiger woods is ridiculous...
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6/15/2008  9:56 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

tiger woods is ridiculous...

That putt on 18 was just simply amazing.
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6/15/2008  10:18 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

tiger woods is ridiculous...
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6/15/2008  11:14 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

tiger woods is ridiculous...

That putt on 18 was just simply amazing.

Insane. He goes from the tee to a bunker. Then to the rough. Then he hits a great shot to within 12 feet and then he sinks it to force the playoff.

I don't root for him, I never root for the heavy favorite in anything unless it's my team, but you have to respect the man.
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6/15/2008  11:15 PM
OK. I love Kevin Garnett. He plays his heart out and leaves it out on the floor and is a great teammate. I'd want him on my team anyday. However, with all his talent, am I the only one who notices that he forces himself into taking sooooo much tougher shots than he should be? He takes so many fadeaways in the post. He should be able to absolutely kill Gasol.
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6/15/2008  11:17 PM
As for the Finals, Pierce has really impressed me on both ends of the floor.

Thibodeau isn't getting enough credit for how he has this team playing defense. Teams who hired coaches, especially in the last week, are fools for not waiting a little longer to interview him.
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6/15/2008  11:31 PM
pierce is prime time...
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Posted by islesfan:

As for the Finals, Pierce has really impressed me on both ends of the floor.

Thibodeau isn't getting enough credit for how he has this team playing defense. Teams who hired coaches, especially in the last week, are fools for not waiting a little longer to interview him.

it's possible they did interview him (on the DL) and passed. he might have been out of the price range for teams like the suns/bulls b/c they are so cheap.
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6/15/2008  11:33 PM
Big Shot Pose with another!!!!!!!
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6/15/2008  11:35 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

pierce is prime time...

Let's keep it apropos he's the TRUTH!!!!
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