Posted by islesfan:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by islesfan:

holfresh, did you see that last shot by Zach? That's a really bad shot. A complete horse**** shot actually. Any normal shot by any other Knick would have been better.

There is a difference.

Nothing for nothing but Q has been putting up 2-12 performances on a pretty consistent basis so there's a difference between a bad player and just a bad game.

Q sucks and is completely shot as a professional basketball player. Nobody here is arguing that point.

This isn't a bad game for Zach. It's a typical game. He's a black hole when he gets the ball and he'd rather take a really bad shot than pass out.

My one way big problem with Zach's offensive game is when he's not posting up on the block. When he's not posting up and attacking the basket that usually equal a bad game for Zach. But if he's attacking the rim and trying to draw fouls I have no problem with him doing that. Basic basketball will tell you that you rather have a guy forcing a 2 ft shot then another player forcing a 25 ft shot.

Got stuck watching paid programming until changing to MSG, and then hear Breen saying that something has to give, as Isiah has tried different lineups, etc. and it's still not working.

He suggests all of the scenarios, major trade, fire Isiah, etc. and then Clyde says all of them are bad options for the team.

Wonder if the press conference will be aired.

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by BlueSeats:

In the 1st quarter lee went 4-4 and was probably the best player on the floor for either team. We played with spirit and unity. Then Isiah sat him most of the second quarter. Curry put up points but the knicks lost ground and spirit.

Please stop...

Noah shut Lee down.

Here's the first question (sort of):

You've tried to shift the lineup, etc. still not working...what do you do?

Isiah going on about turnovers hurting the team, unforced errors. Difficult to handle, can't score.

[Edited by - PresIke on 12-30-2007 3:23 PM]

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by BlueSeats:

In the 1st quarter lee went 4-4 and was probably the best player on the floor for either team. We played with spirit and unity. Then Isiah sat him most of the second quarter. Curry put up points but the knicks lost ground and spirit.

Please stop...

Noah shut Lee down.

Curry was playing well so he shouldn't have been taken out the game and the Knicks didn't lose ground as Blue said, in fact the Knicks outscored the Bulls that quarter by a point...In the third quarter where Lee started the Knicks were outscored by 9 pts...

I just love how Lee gets credit when the Knicks do well and never gets blamed when the Knicks does poorly...

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by BlueSeats:

In the 1st quarter lee went 4-4 and was probably the best player on the floor for either team. We played with spirit and unity. Then Isiah sat him most of the second quarter. Curry put up points but the knicks lost ground and spirit.

Please stop...

What part do you disagree with, that in the 1st Lee went 4 for 4 and was in better rhythm than pretty much every player for either tam, that he sat most of the second, or that we lost ground with Curry in the game?

Coach, how confusing is it to you that the problems continue to exist?"

"We miss layups, keep working on trying to make things better"

and he's off...

his affect was very flat, he sounds depressed.

you know I find it funny how every analyst, ever other teams announcers when they call a game vs the knicks, just praise lee, and really respects how he plays the game.. they also notice how guys like zach seem to bring very little to the table, and how curry is not really in NBA shape..

but on these sites, all i hear is how we defend lee and how he never gets blame.. I mean are you guys serious? what got damn game are you watching?

Posted by tkf:

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by BlueSeats:

In the 1st quarter lee went 4-4 and was probably the best player on the floor for either team. We played with spirit and unity. Then Isiah sat him most of the second quarter. Curry put up points but the knicks lost ground and spirit.

Please stop...

Noah shut Lee down.

.. noah didn't do a damn thing. the first quarter the guys were playing well. then he sat lee until a little under two minutes in the second quarter, jeffries who was playing well, sat most of that quarter also....

[Edited by - tkf on 30-12-2007 2:39 PM]

How sad we have 2 fans arguing in defense of Zach to slight Lee as we produce another blowout effort performance. Why would you want to post on a forum to **** on Lee while trying to cut Zach some slack? This gets back to the fans who would lash out in fits of rage defending Curry....WHY?



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-30-2007 1:49 PM]

Posted by tkf:

you know I find it funny how every analyst, ever other teams announcers when they call a game vs the knicks, just praise lee, and really respects how he plays the game.. they also notice how guys like zach seem to bring very little to the table, and how curry is not really in NBA shape..

but on these sites, all i hear is how we defend lee and how he never gets blame.. I mean are you guys serious? what got damn game are you watching?

Dont pay any attention to Holfresh, he loathes the fact that Lee is liked by the fans and it eats at him every minute of every day while Lee is a Knick.

typical zach.. Q had duhon on him, scored on him in the post, a huge mismatch.. the bulls announcers were like" well lets see if the knicks are unselfish enough to go back into the post and find Q" very next play, zach runs Q out of the post, to force up a bad shot, this guy is a black hole, stat stuffing, joke of a player... I don't like him..