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8/2/2007  2:58 PM
TMS you still havent explained why YI should have nmore rights than the other 29 draft picks and MIl should have less rights than the other 29 teams.

Should Oden insist on playing in NY or the Lakers or refuse to play?

Should Durant say I'm not playing unless its in Boston?

Wouldnt many players make more money in other cities? Maybe every player should insist on playing in NY or LA so they could maximize their endorsement dollars.

Maybe all teams outside of NY and LA should be done away with so all guys can maximize their marketing dollars?

Whats the use of having a mutually agreed upon collective bargaining agreement by players and owners if its going to be ignored?

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8/2/2007  3:06 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

TMS why shouldnt mil have the right to keep their draft pick rights just like every other team?

they can keep him if they want, but they have to realize they're not going to have a happy player on their hands & he might hold out & not sign with them... they absolutely knew the risks going in... this is not something that Yi's camp just suddenly came out with & is leaving MIL in a bad situation... they knew what would happen, they were warned not to draft him, but they did anyway... then they refuse to deal him to another team for a fair package... why should anyone have any sympathy for the Bucks here?

don't get me wrong, i have no ties to Yi or the Chinese gov't... hell, i'm not even Chinese... i just think he has a right to try to milk as much future earning potential that he can for himself, just like any other player has the right if they want... if they don't want to sign with a team, that's on them... they run the risks as well of losing out on a lucrative deal & ending up w/less later on (see DeShawn Stevenson for example)... obviously i'm not trying to equate this situation to free agency, but you understand the line of thinking... why would you want a player on your team that isn't going to be happy playing there in the first place? MIL went into all of this with their eyes wide open, so i have zero pity for them... they either make a deal w/GS to benefit all parties, or they play hardball & run the risk of completely wasting a high lottery pick...

btw, the same thing happened w/Freddy Weiss when the Knicks drafted him... we ended up getting absolutely nothing out of the pick... he stayed in Europe & got dunked on by Vince... sometimes what goes around comes around... for Yi & his camp, he knows the ramifications of playing refusal here as well, but they obviously want to stand firm on this as well... i for one am happy as hell that Weiss never came here... the only thing i'm mad about is why Ed Tapscott drafted him in the first place.

when you go into a business transaction knowing all the risks, then you should be ready to accept the outcomes that come with it... this goes for both the buyers & the sellers.
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8/2/2007  3:09 PM
MIl did know the risks and they should not give in at all. They have just as many rights as any other team and YI does not have any more rights than any other player
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8/2/2007  3:27 PM
Posted by TMS:

btw, the same thing happened w/Freddy Weiss when the Knicks drafted him... we ended up getting absolutely nothing out of the pick... he stayed in Europe & got dunked on by Vince... sometimes what goes around comes around...

Damn, Freddy didn't get dunked on. He got TEA-BAGGED! Talk about karma!
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8/2/2007  4:14 PM
We lucked out when Orlando drafted Vazquez and Milwaukee took Yi. Let other teams blow lotto choices on guys who will never play here.
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8/2/2007  9:58 PM
MACAO, CHINA -- Former NBA player Wang Zhizhi and draft picks Yi Jianlian and Sun Yue combined to score 59 of China's 82 points in its victory over the NBA Development League team at the Stankovic Cup.

After China's 82-67 win, each team finished the tournament with a 3-2 record.

Renaldo Major of the Dakota Wizards, a former Fresno State player, led the D-League Ambassadors with 16 points and eight rebounds.

Yi, who had 28 points, was drafted sixth by the Milwaukee Bucks. Sun was picked in the second round by the Los Angeles Lakers.

Slovenia won the tournament with a 4-1 record. China finished second, and the Ambassadors were third. Angola (3-2) took fourth. New Zealand went 2-3 and Venezuela went 0-5.

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8/3/2007  6:41 AM
Bucks boss remains smug on Yi release


www.chinaview.cn 2007-08-02 08:33:36 Print

BEIJING, Aug.2 -- The boss of NBA outfit the Milwaukee Bucks has all but ruled out a trip to China to resolve his franchise's dispute with Chinese star Yi Jianlian.

Bucks GM Larry Harris told a local newspaper he was standing firm in the Lake Michigan city after inviting the rising star, his family and mentors, all of whom would like to see 2007's sixth NBA draft pick play for a club with more ethnic Chinese fans, to Milwaukee.

"It remains a possibility, but it's nothing imminent," Harris told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel of his travel plans, ignoring the fact Yi is still officially contracted to the Guangdong Tigers.

"We're keeping communications open, and that has not changed.

"There's an open dialogue with Dan Fegan that continues."

The two parties have remained poker faced during the month-long deadlock after the Bucks drafted the 213cm youngster in June.

Harris and Bucks coach Larry Krystkowiak met with Yi at the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas early last month, where they delivered a letter of invitation from Bucks owner Herb Kohl.

Harris remained coy at news Chinese basketball boss Li Yuanwei intended to cross the Pacific to help mediate in the dispute.

"We have an open invitation for Yi, his family and Mr Chen to come to Milwaukee to see what we have to offer," Harris said, referring to Guangdong Tigers general manager and owner Chen Haitao.

"We're here to make it as comfortable and easy a transition from the CBA (Chinese Basketball Association) to the NBA as possible.

"Having heard this about Mr Li, we certainly invite him as well. We would love for him to come."

If the Bucks remain resolute on not trading their important draft pick, he will be forced to sit out of basketball altogether ahead of the Beijing Olympics, a point making Milwaukee confident it has the upper hand.

Harris has refused to budge since Yi's party requested a trade immediately after the draft.

But the Bucks must bargain with both Guangdong and the CBA to secure Yi's release, which would allow the power forward to play in the NBA this season.

Even though Milwaukee has signed the high-flying forward Desmond Mason and point guard Mo Williams, the team has guaranteed Yi ample floor time in the power forward spot.

"I know the Bucks have signed some good players in the Summer," Li said.

"Competing with these guys will be helpful for Yi."

China's future star is currently competing with the national team at the Stankovic Cup in Macao, where he scored a team-high 19 points in the 68-63 loss to Angola on Tuesday night.

He scored 18 points to help the host team beat Venezuela 64-62 on Saturday in the tournament opener, but scored just eight points after spending most of his time on the bench because of fouls in China's earlier 80-76 loss to Slovenia.

National team head coach Jonas Kazlauskas said Yi's improvement was obvious.

"He has made some great some steps this summer physically," the coach said on Sunday. "He didn't get enough exercise in CBA over the past years, but the NBA Summer League games made him different.

"I know he only had 12.4 points in average in Las Vegas, but the stats don't tell everything. He is not afraid of physical contact anymore."


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8/3/2007  9:33 AM
Why wouldn't Milwaukee just trade him?
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8/3/2007  9:43 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

Why wouldn't Milwaukee just trade him?

How about swap Yi with Eddy (with some added junk from Mil)
Dolan will buy the golden bag.
Can you imagine - Knicks with 10-35 record playing at MSG and garden is packed with Chinese fans?
Dragons are all over the place and China food all over the flour.
And broadcast is going with Chinese translator in the corner of the screen...







[Edited by - arkrud on 08-03-2007 09:44 AM]
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8/3/2007  10:08 AM
Yi looks like he will eventually be a good player. In the puss NBA he might jump right in and have a good season.

Anyway, I'm glad we are not the bucks fans, cuz we will surely be eating major cat poop right now.
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8/3/2007  10:52 AM
Im glad someone got the protocal book out and realize chinese diplomacy is a big deal to them.

Saying your gonna go to them and talk it out shows weakness.

If they want Yi in the NBA, then they need to bring it to Milwaukee and offer solutions themselves.

In the western culture a trade or business deal has two winners. They don't give a rats ass about having a mutual beneficial deal. Lead paint, bad dog food, and who the hell else knows. I for one have stopped buying any fish that is raised in China. Shellfish tht is. No plastics that handle food or water have all been thrown out in my house if its made in china or can't be identified where it was made.

They want Yi, let them come to the Bucks. They want him in Oakland then let his agent get value to the Bucks. Milwaukee might be just fine with him playing another year in china and getting international experience if they are going to be stupid about this.

They don't give a rats ass, why? Cuz they'll put dried rats ass and sell it to you in that hamburger helper you just bought.

I hope US manufacters start pulling business from them. Its criminal to accept out sourced opportunities and sign a contract to use certain specifications and not fulfil. You gonna buy a car from these companies?
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8/3/2007  11:02 AM
Posted by Nalod:

Im glad someone got the protocal book out and realize chinese diplomacy is a big deal to them.

Saying your gonna go to them and talk it out shows weakness.

If they want Yi in the NBA, then they need to bring it to Milwaukee and offer solutions themselves.

In the western culture a trade or business deal has two winners. They don't give a rats ass about having a mutual beneficial deal. Lead paint, bad dog food, and who the hell else knows. I for one have stopped buying any fish that is raised in China. Shellfish tht is. No plastics that handle food or water have all been thrown out in my house if its made in china or can't be identified where it was made.

They want Yi, let them come to the Bucks. They want him in Oakland then let his agent get value to the Bucks. Milwaukee might be just fine with him playing another year in china and getting international experience if they are going to be stupid about this.

They don't give a rats ass, why? Cuz they'll put dried rats ass and sell it to you in that hamburger helper you just bought.

I hope US manufacters start pulling business from them. Its criminal to accept out sourced opportunities and sign a contract to use certain specifications and not fulfil. You gonna buy a car from these companies?

OK man.
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8/3/2007  11:04 AM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Nalod:

Im glad someone got the protocal book out and realize chinese diplomacy is a big deal to them.

Saying your gonna go to them and talk it out shows weakness.

If they want Yi in the NBA, then they need to bring it to Milwaukee and offer solutions themselves.

In the western culture a trade or business deal has two winners. They don't give a rats ass about having a mutual beneficial deal. Lead paint, bad dog food, and who the hell else knows. I for one have stopped buying any fish that is raised in China. Shellfish tht is. No plastics that handle food or water have all been thrown out in my house if its made in china or can't be identified where it was made.

They want Yi, let them come to the Bucks. They want him in Oakland then let his agent get value to the Bucks. Milwaukee might be just fine with him playing another year in china and getting international experience if they are going to be stupid about this.

They don't give a rats ass, why? Cuz they'll put dried rats ass and sell it to you in that hamburger helper you just bought.

I hope US manufacters start pulling business from them. Its criminal to accept out sourced opportunities and sign a contract to use certain specifications and not fulfil. You gonna buy a car from these companies?

OK man.
Just boycott Chinese goods and food and you will end up naked and hungry wearing cowboy hat and with baseball bat in your hand...


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8/3/2007  11:16 AM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Nalod:

Im glad someone got the protocal book out and realize chinese diplomacy is a big deal to them.

Saying your gonna go to them and talk it out shows weakness.

If they want Yi in the NBA, then they need to bring it to Milwaukee and offer solutions themselves.

In the western culture a trade or business deal has two winners. They don't give a rats ass about having a mutual beneficial deal. Lead paint, bad dog food, and who the hell else knows. I for one have stopped buying any fish that is raised in China. Shellfish tht is. No plastics that handle food or water have all been thrown out in my house if its made in china or can't be identified where it was made.

They want Yi, let them come to the Bucks. They want him in Oakland then let his agent get value to the Bucks. Milwaukee might be just fine with him playing another year in china and getting international experience if they are going to be stupid about this.

They don't give a rats ass, why? Cuz they'll put dried rats ass and sell it to you in that hamburger helper you just bought.

I hope US manufacters start pulling business from them. Its criminal to accept out sourced opportunities and sign a contract to use certain specifications and not fulfil. You gonna buy a car from these companies?

OK man.
Just boycott Chinese goods and food and you will end up naked and hungry wearing cowboy hat and with baseball bat in your hand...


But I won't have cancer!

People at Stone Age never leave long enough to have cancer too...



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8/3/2007  11:54 AM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Bippity10:

Why wouldn't Milwaukee just trade him?

How about swap Yi with Eddy (with some added junk from Mil)
Dolan will buy the golden bag.
Can you imagine - Knicks with 10-35 record playing at MSG and garden is packed with Chinese fans?
Dragons are all over the place and China food all over the flour.
And broadcast is going with Chinese translator in the corner of the screen...







[Edited by - arkrud on 08-03-2007 09:44 AM]

There's no shot in hell that I would trade Curry for Yi, especially after he apparently got beat around by the Knicks in the Summer league. I don't trust this guy in the least. We've barely seen the guy play anyway, and he has barely played against NBA calibre players. Why the heck would we give up a potential future all star post player for this guy? You give up Curry for young stars who are already proven or maybe have dominated college bball and it's CLEAR they are going to do damage in the NBA.

Yi could equal Lampe for all we know.
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8/3/2007  11:57 AM
If stern was on probation now , he would have already brokered a deal with the chinese govt by now.

he has a one track mind $$$$$$$
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8/3/2007  12:09 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Im glad someone got the protocal book out and realize chinese diplomacy is a big deal to them.

Saying your gonna go to them and talk it out shows weakness.

If they want Yi in the NBA, then they need to bring it to Milwaukee and offer solutions themselves.

In the western culture a trade or business deal has two winners. They don't give a rats ass about having a mutual beneficial deal. Lead paint, bad dog food, and who the hell else knows. I for one have stopped buying any fish that is raised in China. Shellfish tht is. No plastics that handle food or water have all been thrown out in my house if its made in china or can't be identified where it was made.

They want Yi, let them come to the Bucks. They want him in Oakland then let his agent get value to the Bucks. Milwaukee might be just fine with him playing another year in china and getting international experience if they are going to be stupid about this.

They don't give a rats ass, why? Cuz they'll put dried rats ass and sell it to you in that hamburger helper you just bought.

I hope US manufacters start pulling business from them. Its criminal to accept out sourced opportunities and sign a contract to use certain specifications and not fulfil. You gonna buy a car from these companies?

your response on this topic really has no relevance to the topic at hand... i have no idea why you think you need to bring these things into a discussion about a player from China that refuses to play for the team that drafted him, as if defective products & poor quality control by Chinese processing plants in the food & manufacturing industries has any bearing whatsoever on the quality of Yi Jianlian as a basketball player.
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by Nalod:

Im glad someone got the protocal book out and realize chinese diplomacy is a big deal to them.

Saying your gonna go to them and talk it out shows weakness.

If they want Yi in the NBA, then they need to bring it to Milwaukee and offer solutions themselves.

In the western culture a trade or business deal has two winners. They don't give a rats ass about having a mutual beneficial deal. Lead paint, bad dog food, and who the hell else knows. I for one have stopped buying any fish that is raised in China. Shellfish tht is. No plastics that handle food or water have all been thrown out in my house if its made in china or can't be identified where it was made.

They want Yi, let them come to the Bucks. They want him in Oakland then let his agent get value to the Bucks. Milwaukee might be just fine with him playing another year in china and getting international experience if they are going to be stupid about this.

They don't give a rats ass, why? Cuz they'll put dried rats ass and sell it to you in that hamburger helper you just bought.

I hope US manufacters start pulling business from them. Its criminal to accept out sourced opportunities and sign a contract to use certain specifications and not fulfil. You gonna buy a car from these companies?

your response on this topic really has no relevance to the topic at hand... i have no idea why you think you need to bring these things into a discussion about a player from China that refuses to play for the team that drafted him, as if defective products & poor quality control by Chinese processing plants in the food & manufacturing industries has any bearing whatsoever on the quality of Yi Jianlian as a basketball player.

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8/3/2007  1:38 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Nalod:

Im glad someone got the protocal book out and realize chinese diplomacy is a big deal to them.

Saying your gonna go to them and talk it out shows weakness.

If they want Yi in the NBA, then they need to bring it to Milwaukee and offer solutions themselves.

In the western culture a trade or business deal has two winners. They don't give a rats ass about having a mutual beneficial deal. Lead paint, bad dog food, and who the hell else knows. I for one have stopped buying any fish that is raised in China. Shellfish tht is. No plastics that handle food or water have all been thrown out in my house if its made in china or can't be identified where it was made.

They want Yi, let them come to the Bucks. They want him in Oakland then let his agent get value to the Bucks. Milwaukee might be just fine with him playing another year in china and getting international experience if they are going to be stupid about this.

They don't give a rats ass, why? Cuz they'll put dried rats ass and sell it to you in that hamburger helper you just bought.

I hope US manufacters start pulling business from them. Its criminal to accept out sourced opportunities and sign a contract to use certain specifications and not fulfil. You gonna buy a car from these companies?

your response on this topic really has no relevance to the topic at hand... i have no idea why you think you need to bring these things into a discussion about a player from China that refuses to play for the team that drafted him, as if defective products & poor quality control by Chinese processing plants in the food & manufacturing industries has any bearing whatsoever on the quality of Yi Jianlian as a basketball player.

No but arrogance is the common thread. And its not Yi, its his "handlers". ANd it not the people of China, its the buisness practices. Its talking out of one side of your mouth and not being honest.

No offense to anyone of Chinese decent, and lets not get to bent out of shape on this.

The CBA kept Yao Ming hostage and pulled the same crap. I think Yi and his masters will also take half of what the kid makes because they harvested him like some kind of crop. Or, in politically correct ways they invested in the kid for many years and want thier investment to pay back. His earning potential is not as high in MIlwaukee as it would be in NY.

This is topical dicussion these days.

Yi is a basketball player and I want to see him play!

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8/3/2007  1:47 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Nalod:

Im glad someone got the protocal book out and realize chinese diplomacy is a big deal to them.

Saying your gonna go to them and talk it out shows weakness.

If they want Yi in the NBA, then they need to bring it to Milwaukee and offer solutions themselves.

In the western culture a trade or business deal has two winners. They don't give a rats ass about having a mutual beneficial deal. Lead paint, bad dog food, and who the hell else knows. I for one have stopped buying any fish that is raised in China. Shellfish tht is. No plastics that handle food or water have all been thrown out in my house if its made in china or can't be identified where it was made.

They want Yi, let them come to the Bucks. They want him in Oakland then let his agent get value to the Bucks. Milwaukee might be just fine with him playing another year in china and getting international experience if they are going to be stupid about this.

They don't give a rats ass, why? Cuz they'll put dried rats ass and sell it to you in that hamburger helper you just bought.

I hope US manufacters start pulling business from them. Its criminal to accept out sourced opportunities and sign a contract to use certain specifications and not fulfil. You gonna buy a car from these companies?

your response on this topic really has no relevance to the topic at hand... i have no idea why you think you need to bring these things into a discussion about a player from China that refuses to play for the team that drafted him, as if defective products & poor quality control by Chinese processing plants in the food & manufacturing industries has any bearing whatsoever on the quality of Yi Jianlian as a basketball player.

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