Posted by holfresh:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by misterearl:
>>Are you saying thats its pathetic Isiah cant put a team together that wins more than that Knick team of 3 years ago that has 8 guys no longer in the league?
Nope
I'm saying that while you're wasting your breath howling at the moon and railing against Isiah Thomas... the young Knicks players like Eddy Curry, Renaldo Balkman, Channing Frye and David Lee... are showing signs of improvement.
Beating a Utah Jazz team with an 8 man roster shows a positive sign to me
I find it sad some only see fit to regurgitate negative vibes
I'd rather cheer them all on
so sue me
Now you are the one who's taking things out of context. One quality win in the midst of a series of embarrassing losses does not make improvement.
I guess thats where we all differ...some will say the Knicks are 8-11 their last 19 games during some key injuries...but that's just me...
I don't think the question should be about progress. I think we have definitely made progress over last year. I think there are also signs of progress as the sesaon goes on. But the question should be do we have the pieces in place to make a run for a title. And by pieces I mean players, coach's and GM. If you think the core group can play a part on a championship team. Do you think the GM has the ability to make the moves necessary to get them over the hump. Or will that GM waste 5 of the next 6 moves signing guys that don't fit and then dumping them a year later? These are the more important questions to me. Record this year is not that important to me.
I have to agree with you wholeheartedly...With me it's not about wins but the improvement of our young players....Curry has shown flashes that he can be dominant...Lee has shown flashes of being a very good player in this league...Frye has shown flashes of being a good player..I love Balkman...
But Isiah won't be here long enough to watch them develop...At least we know what we have in Isiah...A guy that can draft and develop young players...This is exactly what this franchise needs right now....
See I agree to a point but not entirely. It's nice to see them improve. And normally improvement equals victories in the long run. So that's a good thing. You can't argue that David and Eddie and Balkman and a couple others have gotten better. But to me that's not the end all. The goal is a title. Do we have pieces in place to compete somewhere down the line. If not, do we have a GM that is capable of making moves to bring in people that can improve the record instead of spinning our wheels and resources bringing in the likes of Jalen, Stevie, JJ, Vinny, TT, Nazr etc.
If this is the core group that Isiah has confidence in, than as a fan I should expect that all trades from here on out are to be made to compliment the guys that we are keeping. Not trades to save a job, or excite the fan base, or to take a shot on someone. But to build a team. My opinion is that Isiah has not done this yet. He has gone out and gotten players without concern for how they fit. He must do that now!
I have no problem with him as coach. I dont' like his methods. I think he's too soft on the players but that's my personal opinion and I not a fireable offense. It's just a difference in coaching styles and I can't say my method would work any better than his. But as far as building a team. The guy has made enough moves for players that are no longer on the roster and being paid, or on the roster and not playing, or coaches that have been led out of here in shame, that at some point you have to hold him accountable. .500 records should not be acceptable.
Progress for progress sake is not enough. Are we building towards a championship is the ultimate question. I've seen enough pis-s poor moves by this guy to not feel that he is the guy that should be building around the nice young talent he has brought in.
12/20/2006 10:50 PM