Posted by misterearl:

Martin you are correct that dj is a paying Knicks ticketholder. The rest is pure baloney.

dhsu despises Isiah Thomas, is borderline crazy on Marbury, thinks Dolan is an idiot. He thinks Jerome is a fat slug and Eddy Curry not far behind. He is on the fence about Steve Francis, Jamal, Jalen, Mo Taylor, Malik and Quentin and leaning heavily towards the negative side as they are all Zeke's choices. And he DESPISES Zeke.

David Lee is cool. Nate is tolerable. But Zeke acquired them too, so they MUST suck.

Ergo, the players must be dreck.



dj is also my boy, so I hope he doesn't mind me speaking for him.

earl, i like some of isiah's moves, and i dislike a majority of them. i really don't think he had a plan going into this. i don't see how the pieces of this team fit. and i don't like the way he has overpaid for everything. so yes, i don't like isiah as a gm.

the players mean nothing to me. eddy curry will always be eddy curry. marbury will always be marbury. you can't change them. i love making fun of them b/c...well, it's fun. but it all comes back to the guy that brought them here. he's the one guy that has full control of everything and the past two years are very indicative that he has messed up.

so you finally bring in an old school coach that wins and command respect. and it all went to hell. and the owner decided that he was the problem. great.

so what am i supposed to believe in with this team? what am i supposed to be cheering for?

should i be cheering for frye and nate? is that any different than cheering for josh childress and salim stoudamire? they're all young kids but the team doesn't win. and i don't know if i see this team legitimately winning with the way their built. i don't want to be the fan cheering for their favorite player on 35-45 win teams.

so it all comes back to the guy who built this. and i don't like what it looks like.

Posted by martin:

Defense was the reason you didn't see Frye, Lee and Curry together more often. None of them knew how to play team D - weak side defense, rotations, etc. He wanted one of Malik/AD to be out there to help out with that. Remember, for most of the year our guards were playing the OLE! game and that means your bigs have to cover and rotate, and rotate some more when the ball is passed. Also, both Lee and Frye had problems stepping out to cover the 3 point line then SF/PF with range stepped out.

Posted by misterearl:

>>I can appreciate someone's play and disparage the stupidity they show of talking to the media too much. You would have thought they would have learned at the very least that from the whole Larry thing.

Talking to the media TOO much? David Lee hardly said a peep last season. Frye as well. They all respected Brown's track record and rarely said anything that could be interpeted as negative about hi in the media. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, the Knicks took the constant abuse like men.

It's part of the job dude.



>>Once again there is not one player I can in good conscience say gave all out 100% effort every game.

joe - since when was your "good conscience" a yardstick for basketball effort?

Where is the factual, unbiased evidence of such a claim?



[Edited by - misterearl on 07-06-2006 12:02 PM]

>>Once again there is not one player I can in good conscience say gave all out 100% effort every game.

joe - since when was your "good conscience" a yardstick for basketball effort?

Where is the factual, unbiased evidence of such a claim?

His way was successful at every other stop in a 34-year coaching career, just not with the Knicks.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by oohah:

the one thing I would add is that DJ is a paying, season ticket holder. He don't care who the players are, who the coach is, who the GM is. Just as long as there are winners in the house. All of a sudden one does not turn into a disfunctional negative guy. This takes a lot of brewing.

Let me defend DJ for a second too; Even though he has expressed opinions regarding this LB mess all year that I consider to be absurd, he is always civil about it. I've never seen him call anyone names or disparage them personally because they commented on how obviously bad LB was. He just expressed his opinion.

Now the rest of the Brown-Nosers are another story...

oohah

first martin, now oohah...the dj fan club is GROWING!!!

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by BlueSeats:

This is why Brown wanted one or two of his former players on the team, so they could tell guys "he was the same way with us, and we all hated him, but we rode it out and then things clicked and we went far together." Instead our leaders are uncrackable nuts, hellbent on playing their way, and giving the coach ultimatums thru the media after just 7 games.

Reggie Miller was said to have hated Brown, but as a TV analyst he called him the best coach in the game, bar none. And he probably "liked" Isiah better.

I'm glad our guys like our new coach more, and I'm glad our new coach likes these guys more. But I'd feel a lot better about the whole thing if I had more faith in the leadership of this team -- but our leaders problems have revealed themselves under a multitude of coaching styles. I don't believe in finding that one needle in the haystack of coaches. Isiah makes the 5th in 2.5 years. It's not good enough he be better than Brown (who he signed). He has to make this roster (who he signed) make sense.

Are you sure larry coached the same way this season as he has in the past? becuase I dont think he did.