Posted by TMS:

i thought Stevie was the Franchise?

haha. that made me laugh.

I barely post here, but read all the time. I needed it...

Is it wrong, that people suggesting K-Mart gets me friggin super riled up? He doesn't fit here. He is hurt. He is one of the worst deals in the NBA. Any rumor of the Knicks acquiring him is false. It makes no sense.

Posted by tomverve:

Posted by gunsnewing:

we'll be at around $54mm after next year, no bad at all. but we would problably trade those expiring contracts for more 6ft outcasts

Not quite. Hoopshype doesn't have Curry's contract listed for 07/08-- figure that's about $10mill. Then you have to account for the rookie contracts, which aren't added into Hoopshype's total for that season since they're team options-- that's about $5mill between the 3 of them. So the current figure for that season, assuming we let everyone expire, is more like $49mill + $15mill = $64mill. If we do the Francis trade AND let Battie expire, you've got Francis's ~$15mill added, minus Crawford ($7.9m) and Battie ($5.2m), so add another $2m and you get $66mill for 2007/08, assuming we do the Francis trade and let every expiring contract expire. The actual number will almost definitely be higher than that, given expiring contract trades, MLE signings and new rookie contracts. But it is still a damn sight better than where we are now, cap wise.

yeah I also estimated Curry at $10mm and added the rookies and got $56mm exluding Woods, Butler & MLE signings, new rookies

Posted by gunsnewing:

yeah I also estimated Curry at $10mm and added the rookies and got $56mm exluding Woods, Butler & MLE signings, new rookies

The baseline figure hoopshype has for 07/08 is $49mill. 49 + 10 + 5 = 64. I think you forgot to carry the one.

Posted by tomverve:

Posted by gunsnewing:

yeah I also estimated Curry at $10mm and added the rookies and got $56mm exluding Woods, Butler & MLE signings, new rookies

The baseline figure hoopshype has for 07/08 is $49mill. 49 + 10 + 5 = 64. I think you forgot to carry the one.

that includes the team option on JYD which won't be picked up so that brings it down to $56mm

no updates on this yet??? still just a report??? anyone listening to 1050 or wfan??? whts the word

Posted by tomverve:

Nope, the team option contracts aren't included in hoopshype's total team salary. That's why you have to add the rookie contracts in there. Try adding up the salaries of all the non-team option players for 07/08 and see what you get.

Steph ~20, Q ~8, JC ~8, Malik ~7, Jerome ~6. 20 + 8 + 8 + 7 + 6 = 49.

once you substract Crawford + JYD and add Francis you get $56mm

What's the Cap $45mm? not bad at all

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 02-15-2006 2:03 PM]

Can't believe with this ownership anyone takes any discussion of the salary cap seriously

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Can't believe with this ownership anyone takes any discussion of the salary cap seriously

Yeah man they don't seem to care about salary cap so why talk about it. The Knicks have their own salary cap.....it's call "I'm rich biotch!!!"

The Knicks have the same maneuverability as any team that is under the cap. With Dolan....the Knicks can actually get any player available.....Isiah is doing a good job of at least getting players that can be moved becuase of talent or salary reasons.

People diss the Knicks management but if it wasn't for Dolan or Isiah the Knicks could not be talking about getting a player like Francis.

[Edited by - enyspree on 02-15-2006 2:11 PM]

no your right, if it wasent for knicks management we wouldent be able to get a player like francis.. we might actually be able to get a BETTER PLAYER cuz we'd be under the cap and almost ANY player in the league would come here via free agency if we could offer decent money

Posted by gunsnewing:

once you substract Crawford + JYD and add Francis you get $56mm

augh. lol

Why is this so hard?

The baseline cap for 07/08 is $49m, assuming no trades, no new rookies, no FA signings or re-signing of our own players.

Curry isn't in there. Add $10m to $49m. Get $59m.

We'll want to keep our 3 rookies, but their salaries aren't added in to the $49m team total, since their contracts in 07/08 are team options. Their salaries in 07/08 add up to about $5m. Add $5m to $59m. Get $64m.

Assume the Francis/Battie trade goes down. Assume we let Battie expire. The net effect of this is replacing JC's salary in 07/08 with Francis's salary in 07/08. So add Francis's salary in 07/08 (~$16m) to the team total. Subtract JC's salary in 07/08 (~$8m). (My mistake earlier, Battie's contract shouldn't even be subtracted from the 07/08 total...)

64 + 16 = 80.

80 - 8 = 72.

So. Assuming we trade for Francis/Battie, let every expiring contract expire, and make no new FA or rookie signings, we're at roughly $72m total salary for 07/08. I don't know how to spell it out any more clearly than that.