Enough! Dude, you are making 47-52k. Lots of folks make less than you. Stop with the whole oppression, master and slavery BS! This isn't some noble crusade for the survival of the hard working sweatshop worker! You wanted an 8% raise for 3 years. That is outrageous!!!!

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by TemujinKnick:

The MTA for a fact has that power, yes. As has been said many times during this strike, the board acts in line with what Pataki wants more often than not.

Cuz he appointed them.

So you are in favor of this? You are infavor or the ruling class doing what it wants to its workers and you are for all of them getting fired and replaced if they chose to fight for what they deserve and future employees deserve?

[Edited by - enyspree on 12-22-2005 11:49 PM]

Enough! Dude, you are making 47-52k. Lots of folks make less than you. Stop with the whole oppression, master and slavery BS! This isn't some noble crusade for the survival of the hard working sweatshop worker! You wanted an 8% raise for 3 years. That is outrageous!!!!

Are you from New York? If 47-52 K is accurate, that is peanuts in this city. You would have trouble living decently in Manhattan on that, especially if you have a family. Even if you live in the outer boroughs you would be living from paycheck to paycheck. And this is for skilled, hazardous, high stress work. And that wasn't what the strike was about anyway.

Yes, some people make less money, but what does that mean? Nothing.

oohah

The master class crap and slavery inferences are completly inappropriate, oohah. This isn't even close. Trying to piggyback the TWUs cause and make it comparable to such cheapens the sufferings of slavery and social oppression and is quite distasteful.

As you may have read in my posts above, I don't find the comparisons to the civil rights movement etc. entirely apt. Yet, they are not entirely without merit either. Go to www.ny1.com and look at the polls of how opinions over this strike break down. I think a reaction to "social oppression" is quite close to what we have viewed in this case. Look at how Pataki and Bloomberg have characterized/demonized the 70% minority union, yet have absolved the MTA by ommission of admonishment towards that corrupt organization (Which Pataki leads in many ways). There is certainly a question of class if not race: "This is good enough for THEM, how dare THEY strike!"

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Now that the TWU has shown they will strike for what they believe in no matter what the penalties are, other working-class essential workers might do the same thing, and it scares the sh!t out of the "ruling class" (Upper class?)if you will. Nothing scarier than disobedient proleteriats.

oohah


P.S. Check out this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/22/nyregion/nyregionspecial3/22race.html