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mrbean259
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12/16/2005  7:56 PM
honestly i cant remember the last posession the hawks havent scored on
AUTOADVERT
SlimPack
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12/16/2005  7:56 PM
Posted by mrbean259:

4 guys under the hoop...they all just watch smith come in and slam in the rebound

oh well at least rose drew the fould and 1
PhilinLA
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12/16/2005  7:56 PM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by mrbean259:

i just dont understand how we can just look so bad on defense all of a sudden...i really thought we were starting to look good defensively last week, i mean we held the suns to 80 something!

yeah thats whats so frustrating about it, weve taken a step backwards for some reason
More than a step. It could be trade-itis...
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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12/16/2005  7:57 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by mrbean259:

i just dont understand how we can just look so bad on defense all of a sudden...i really thought we were starting to look good defensively last week, i mean we held the suns to 80 something!

yeah thats whats so frustrating about it, weve taken a step backwards for some reason
More than a step. It could be trade-itis...

god I hope your right,
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12/16/2005  7:57 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:
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We're uncoached.

This is crap. Marbury is playing 'his game' what you all wanted.., LB turns him loose, as you all wished and you blame LB? Please... they don't rotate on D. You cannot tell me that LB has not shown them how to rotate on D. They do not execute.
Why don't they execute?

It sure isn't because LB is silent about it. Maybe they aren't good enough. Maybe they are not smart enough. Maybe they aren't conditioned well enough. Maybe they cannot hear LB screaming from the sidelines. I am starting to think that they just aren't good enough.
You know I gonna spin wit it
KnickFanPete
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12/16/2005  7:58 PM
Please get Davis off this team.
OldFan
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12/16/2005  7:58 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:
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um, Larry, teams think they can hit threes against your team. Fix it.


um - Larry ain't playin - he's proved he can coach D this is on the players

Phil if you bring a manager, with an exceptional track record, in where you work to lead a team that has been having a lot of problems and he has no power to fire employees. If he hasn't fixed the problem in 2 months is it his fault?



Oh, okay, it's not his fault that his team looks uncoached? This is a hall of fame coach. He needs to make a difference, not just whine to the press.

This problem shouldn't be lingering. Defenese is about wanting to, and know what to do. The coach has to drill that perimeter D into them, they're not gonna just suddenly figure it out without good coaching.


But it's more then coaching. Again Larry has proved he can coach D. THere is not a single player playing today on the Knicks who has proved he can play D - ever. Shouldn't you take historic performance into account at least a little bit before deciding a hall of fame coach who has proven his ability is more at fault then the players - who have not under ANY coach.
You're only as good as your latest work.

So basically you have no point to make.
No basically my point is, that what he did in the past is immaterial to what he is doing now. The fact that he has coached good d in the past does excuse him from doing it now. He's not.


OK - I disagree - you don't coach or do any job in a vacuum. You coach a team who is playing matters.
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12/16/2005  7:58 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by PhilinLA:

We're uncoached.

This is crap. Marbury is playing 'his game' what you all wanted.., LB turns him loose, as you all wished and you blame LB? Please... they don't rotate on D. You cannot tell me that LB has not shown them how to rotate on D. They do not execute.
Why don't they execute?

It sure isn't because LB is silent about it. Maybe they aren't good enough. Maybe they are not smart enough. Maybe they aren't conditioned well enough. Maybe they cannot hear LB screaming from the sidelines. I am starting to think that they just aren't good enough.

well from what I heard players just forget, there was an article where larry was talking about how some guys he tells over and over and they still might not get it
mrbean259
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12/16/2005  7:59 PM
70 percent shooting from a 4-win team...u gotta be ****in kidding me
PhilinLA
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12/16/2005  7:59 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by PhilinLA:

We're uncoached.

This is crap. Marbury is playing 'his game' what you all wanted.., LB turns him loose, as you all wished and you blame LB? Please... they don't rotate on D. You cannot tell me that LB has not shown them how to rotate on D. They do not execute.
Why don't they execute?

It sure isn't because LB is silent about it. Maybe they aren't good enough. Maybe they are not smart enough. Maybe they aren't conditioned well enough. Maybe they cannot hear LB screaming from the sidelines. I am starting to think that they just aren't good enough.
That's absurd, of course they're good enough. Any pro baksetball player can play d if he wants to enough.
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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12/16/2005  7:59 PM
WHY CAN'T WE EVER GO 2-2 in FT'S???
David f'n Lee for President!!
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12/16/2005  8:01 PM
Maybe the players are hoping that if they play badly enough Larry will get fired.
https:// It's not so hard.
SlimPack
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12/16/2005  8:01 PM
as painful as what im about to say will sound, the hawks are simply a better team than us ive known that since before tonight
PhilinLA
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12/16/2005  8:02 PM
Posted by OldFan:
Posted by PhilinLA:
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um, Larry, teams think they can hit threes against your team. Fix it.


um - Larry ain't playin - he's proved he can coach D this is on the players

Phil if you bring a manager, with an exceptional track record, in where you work to lead a team that has been having a lot of problems and he has no power to fire employees. If he hasn't fixed the problem in 2 months is it his fault?



Oh, okay, it's not his fault that his team looks uncoached? This is a hall of fame coach. He needs to make a difference, not just whine to the press.

This problem shouldn't be lingering. Defenese is about wanting to, and know what to do. The coach has to drill that perimeter D into them, they're not gonna just suddenly figure it out without good coaching.


But it's more then coaching. Again Larry has proved he can coach D. THere is not a single player playing today on the Knicks who has proved he can play D - ever. Shouldn't you take historic performance into account at least a little bit before deciding a hall of fame coach who has proven his ability is more at fault then the players - who have not under ANY coach.
You're only as good as your latest work.

So basically you have no point to make.
No basically my point is, that what he did in the past is immaterial to what he is doing now. The fact that he has coached good d in the past does excuse him from doing it now. He's not.


OK - I disagree - you don't coach or do any job in a vacuum. You coach a team who is playing matters.
I don't know why these guys aren't playing for him all of a sudden, but they're not. I wonder if he lost them in practice this week, or if he's shredded them too much. He needs to rebuild them if he has.

http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
OldFan
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12/16/2005  8:02 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by PhilinLA:

We're uncoached.

This is crap. Marbury is playing 'his game' what you all wanted.., LB turns him loose, as you all wished and you blame LB? Please... they don't rotate on D. You cannot tell me that LB has not shown them how to rotate on D. They do not execute.
Why don't they execute?

It sure isn't because LB is silent about it. Maybe they aren't good enough. Maybe they are not smart enough. Maybe they aren't conditioned well enough. Maybe they cannot hear LB screaming from the sidelines. I am starting to think that they just aren't good enough.
That's absurd, of course they're good enough. Any pro baksetball player can play d if he wants to enough.


But the history of the NBA is full of players who didn't want to. It takes more coaching to reach a lot of guys and some guys can't be reached. Hopefully LB will reach a few of these guys eventually.
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12/16/2005  8:02 PM
this is abysmal

everyone on NY should be fired after this epic defeat
David f'n Lee for President!!
Travla
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12/16/2005  8:04 PM
I'm sure the Hawks will cool off in the 2nd half, problem is the Knicks will be down by 15 or 20 and will lose another #$%&ing game.
https://www.youtube.com/user/RPreston01/videos
PhilinLA
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12/16/2005  8:04 PM
are we spending any practice time of FREE THROWS?
http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
OldFan
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12/16/2005  8:04 PM
Posted by McK1:

hey killa, you won the over/under last game (thnx to a blow-out )

if you wanna play again

over/under on 48 combined pts by Joe Johnson and Al Harringthon

My pick over

over/under 3 Josh Childress stls

my pick over

over/under 4 Josh Smith blocks

my pick over

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-16-2005 6:50 PM]


Wanna do another over-under for the second 1/2.
mrbean259
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12/16/2005  8:04 PM
about the same amount of time we spend on perimeter defense
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