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TheloniusMonk
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8/15/2005  2:17 PM
Posted by islesfan:


Hey, ask a stupid question...

Besides that comment was a lot more intelligent than anything that you've said on this thread. I think Fish needs you to go over that nonsensical post you made. Maybe you can do that one word for word. Funny how I'm not the only one that doesn't understand you.

WAIT WAIT WAIT! LOL Hold it.

Islesfan...you're telling ME about how people feel about ME?

People hate you here lol.


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8/15/2005  2:18 PM
I'm so angry right now. Happy that Houston is staying, but this move makes absolutely no sense. This is basically what the Knicks did this Summer. They traded their BEST front court defender. And now, they just rid themselves of their SECOND BEST frontcourt defender, leaving us with the undersized Malik and Big Gay Jerome "I can't play more than 15 minutes" James. Frye is way too skinny to play NBA D' IMO, at this point. I'm sure Larry Brown is just thrilled about this too. Isiah keeps digging himself into a deeper and deeper hole and if he doesn't dig his way out, he's just gonna burry himself in, along with the Knicks.

Amazing, one of the guys that earns every cent of his paycheck gets waived. He was a freakin' leader. So that leaves us with Malik and Allan as the only guys on the team who have gone places and if Allan has to retire, you got Malik Rose leading the team? It's these little moves. Amazing.
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8/15/2005  2:18 PM
I wish I had a link to the "Cult of Personality" song.

"When a leader speaks the refelection lyes..." - sure sounds like the sond is about IT.

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8/15/2005  2:21 PM
Fish, gimme a break. If Isiah amnesties Shamdon and THEN waives JYD, there'd be even more of an outrage. "We got rid of JYD for nothing! That's so stupid!"

Not saying this board is a bunch of malcontents, but lol, you guys sure are looking for something to complain about. All. The. Time. The overreaction to this waiver is just the latest example. You'd think we just traded Ewing for Weatherspoon or something. Folks, it ain't that big of a deal, and it's not obvious that any other waivers would have been clearly better. Get over it, enjoy this nice summer day.
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8/15/2005  2:21 PM
Posted by simrud:

I'm multitasking at the moment. Doing a lot at once.

I could care less about your insults.


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8/15/2005  2:22 PM
I think Isiah is right with the fact that we had to waive a PF, but I don't agree with the one he has chosen. I'm going to tell you now before it happens: I'm gonna be if Malik Rose becomes our new starting PF. In my opinion he is the most overrated player in our roster.
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8/15/2005  2:22 PM
just because you have no idea why the move was made, doesn't mean it does not make sense.

JYD could have asked to have it used on him. Shandon's contract may not have been eligible (I could be wrong, but I've seen no rebuttle), and Houston may be well enough to put the Heat or Detroit over the top. Heck, H20 may even retire for all we know.

In my mind, waiving anybody other than H20 makes NO SENSE...so, this is just another one of those moves that makes sense to me if there was no amnesty rule, but because it happens under the amnesty rule, the sky is falling and zeke is back to be a retard.

JYD wasn't even on the radar this year...we only include him in our depth charts because everyone likes his energy...yeah, alot of wins that energy brought us.

We have Nate, Lee and ARiza...JYD was expendable and can go somewhere an actually contribute.

Posted by fishmike:

nyk4ever: because it doesnt make sense. Does it ruin our future or our season? Of course not. But it doesnt make sense, and thats scary. When management makes bad moves, even small ones they tend to make other bad moves. There is no logic or common sense to this. The problem? We have management with no logic or common sense.

Now if that doesnt make you nervous what does?


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8/15/2005  2:22 PM
Why did we need to waive anybody? To make space on the roster or a colossal bust by the name of Diop? Or is it to have Butler ont he roster backing the backup of the backup?
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8/15/2005  2:23 PM
On a sidenote, who hates Islesfan? His views have been to the extreme negative about Isiah, but prove him wrong.
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8/15/2005  2:23 PM
Posted by tomverve:

Fish, gimme a break. If Isiah amnesties Shamdon and THEN waives JYD, there'd be even more of an outrage. "We got rid of JYD for nothing! That's so stupid!"

Not saying this board is a bunch of malcontents, but lol, you guys sure are looking for something to complain about. All. The. Time. The overreaction to this waiver is just the latest example. You'd think we just traded Ewing for Weatherspoon or something. Folks, it ain't that big of a deal, and it's not obvious that any other waivers would have been clearly better. Get over it, enjoy this nice summer day.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This move is basically meaningless, it's not going to make or break our season or our salarycap situation, therefor its rendered minimal.


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8/15/2005  2:28 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

On a sidenote, who hates Islesfan? His views have been to the extreme negative about Isiah, but prove him wrong.


The people who call him idiotic or pathetic when he comes around. I haven't called dude any names....but ummm errrr uhhh....I'm assuming these aren't compliments.
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8/15/2005  2:29 PM
Posted by OAK:

I'm pissed off cuz JYD contributes to this team in many ways. He was a tough hardworking guy who PLAYS DEFENSE on the floor, and was a spark plug coming off the bench. On the bench, he not only did not complain or demand mins, he was a great cheer leader puming up the guys on the court and the garden.

In other words, a true team guy.

What can you say about Penny??? What does he contribute?

and he was someone who would not stun the developement of sweetney, frye, ariza & lee because he accepts his role and is effective in getting the team back in games where they trail in limited minutes. One little mistake by our younger bigs and Rose will be logging huge minutes under Brown and we'll be a 1st round playoff exit team for years. That is my main concern. Rose is a better player but so what! I just hope Brown and Isiah see the whole picture
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8/15/2005  2:29 PM
and JYD is an SF? He's listed on the knicks site as a PF and CENTER.

He only played SF because the coach was out of his mind.

there was no where for JYD to play, Lee played SF in SL, so it's a logical extension...he's even mentioned learning the game from the sf position (looking for a link now). Lee playing SF is NOT certified BS...stop crying over expendable players...we aren't the mets where we hang onto a player cause we like him, we hang on to players that can contribute to wins.

for all the "energy" and "team play" JYD brought to the table, it still equated to 33 wins (and he didn't miss any games due to injury). And we don't even need lee at the 3, we've got TT, Q and Reezy. So even then JYD wasn't playing ahead of those three at the 3. Are you actually reading any of your posts?

When and where was JYD even going to be playing...I'm not saying this was a great move, I'm just saying you guys are getting a bit dramatic with your proclamations of the end of the world.

JYD wasn't even going to be playing next year based on my depth charts.

I'd rather see Jackie, Frye, Rose, Sweets, MoT (yep, mo t baby...see the stats, he's better), JJ than JYD on the court...he was horrible...a couple of games they didn't even cover him and he was standing there scared to shoot.

Was it a Great move...NO, was it a end of the world move, not by a long shot.
Posted by simrud:

Lee at SF is ceritfied BS.

He might have gotten away with it in summer league, but if you think that he can guard NBA swing players you are out of your mind.

Lee is a banger who plays inside. He gets offensive rebounds, and uses his quickness advantage over slower bigs to around them for skills finishes at the rim and he dunks when he gets free.

He is a PF thru and tru.


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8/15/2005  2:29 PM
If Isiah amnesties Shamdon and THEN waives JYD, there'd be even more of an outrage. "We got rid of JYD for nothing! That's so stupid!"
no, because if JYD is THEN waived it would only be to sign another player, at which point you can disagree, but understand.

The reaction is fear. Fear of more idiotic moves that make zero sense.
The fact that JYD was a good role model for the young players as well as a community guy is just icing.
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8/15/2005  2:30 PM
have you ever injured your hammy?
Posted by fishmike:
What does Penny do thats so bad?
how about quit coming to work? Where was he last year? He hurt his hammy 20 games into and seemed to show up when he felt like it. The last month of the season he was "rehabbing" but was never so much as on the bench. He's a malcontent, its been documented.


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8/15/2005  2:30 PM
Just because the coolade crew calls him names don't mean everybody hates him. In fact nobody otuside of like 4-5 people call him names. And those 5 people are the blind IT followers anyways so their opinoin is not worth much in my book.
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8/15/2005  2:32 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by islesfan:


Hey, ask a stupid question...

Besides that comment was a lot more intelligent than anything that you've said on this thread. I think Fish needs you to go over that nonsensical post you made. Maybe you can do that one word for word. Funny how I'm not the only one that doesn't understand you.

WAIT WAIT WAIT! LOL Hold it.

Islesfan...you're telling ME about how people feel about ME?

People hate you here lol.


Umm no, I was telling you that people don't understand what you're talking about.

Did anybody understand this post??

"Isiah was obviously trying to waive Houston...Dolan has a repore with him. Obviously HOUSTON would be the one to waive. Houston has NEVER said he was retiring. Secondly, Isiah and Shandon are enemies. Why not waive him? Lastly, Brown doesn't like players like Mo, Houston (at this point) and any other player that doesn't defend. Look at larry's career...JYD is the perfect player that he's like to have on the bench for matchups. Now look at Isiah....Isiah's comments "this is the first time I have been identified with a weak defensive team" What does this tell you? Isiah likes defensive minded players. JYD fits the discription. That takes care of two people who would obviously like another defender on the team......."

And this from someone who told us all to use our brains and think. Keep up with the cheap shots though, it's really working for you.
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8/15/2005  2:32 PM
dont even start with pretending you understand Penny's situation, unless hanging out with his homies in Memphis was helping him rehab faster than being with the Knicks and their facilities who were paying him $16mm a year.
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8/15/2005  2:32 PM
I think Fish put it best, its the fear of more retarded moves to follow that we have come to expect from NY management that drives this thread.
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8/15/2005  2:33 PM
for everyone saying Lee is able to replace JYD, Lee is a rookie and might not get it

Rose is a freagin midget and his rings don't mean anything except that he was playing alongside Tim Duncan.

I'm betting JYD ends up in miami!
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