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5/31/2014  1:42 PM
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The whispers have already started in Indy about Bird turning to his old point guard, Mark Jackson, to take over. Jackson and Reggie Miller were the leaders when Bird was the Pacers' coach ... and Bird isn't the only big fan in the organization of the man Golden State just ousted. Fellow Pacers exec Donnie Walsh is another huge admirer who has long maintained privately that he wouldn't consider Jackson for the Indy job unless he had coached somewhere else first.

But that's a box Jackson obviously can check now


http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/2452/summer-scoop-can-indy-pick-up-the-pieces

Mark Jackson certainly sounded like he was angling for the job during the game
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5/31/2014  2:18 PM
i think now we got heat and spurs in final? waht's the deal
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5/31/2014  9:50 PM
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y2zipper wrote:Playing Copeland or Scola probably doesn't make a difference for Indy. Indy's issue is that Hibbert and West are overpaid for what they bring, moreso Hibbert.

Indy can't really do anything except bring back and integrate more Evan Turner and sign Stephenson, but I wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole for more than 1 year.


I think Evan Turner is gone. His value has diminished to the point where they can probably bring him back, but he has been a nonfactor since the trade. I winder if they'd consider a dealing Hill and Hibbert to us for a deal with Chandler as the centerpiece. I think Roy would be a better fit in the triangle and Chandler is a better fit for Indiana's defensive schemes. Plus, Chandler is better scorer at the rim. Hill would be a solid fit as point guard in the triangle.

The Knicks aren't making a crappy deal for Hibbert and Hill and killing their cap space. Stop that. Ideally, Indiana would be able to move Hill and significantly upgrade the PG position, but I don't see a way they can do that unless they're going to move David West or something.
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5/31/2014  9:53 PM
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Swishfm3 wrote:
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Ha Ha Ha What happened to the Pacers?? Paul George ran out of gas and is over rated. I just can't wait for Melo and the Knicks to go to the finals and it won't be long.

P.George didn't run out of gas but the media, and some fans, did over rate him and tried to put force him in a category that he is not ready for (and may not ever be).

To me, he has reached his plateau which isn't a bad thing in my book since I consider him a top 10 player, but he is not in the level of Durant, Bron, Paul, Parker, Wade, Melo...


Lance, PG and West played at, or near, the levels they played at during the regular season, which is all you can ask for. It's the rest of the roster that didn't show up. Also, let's keep it real. Miami is just a better team. Maybe it's all on Vogel for not coming up with a more intelligent plan and playing Copeland more.

There's not much Vogel can do with how limited this roster is offensively. They just don't have anybody that can drive to the basket with any consistency.
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5/31/2014  10:18 PM
y2zipper wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
y2zipper wrote:Playing Copeland or Scola probably doesn't make a difference for Indy. Indy's issue is that Hibbert and West are overpaid for what they bring, moreso Hibbert.

Indy can't really do anything except bring back and integrate more Evan Turner and sign Stephenson, but I wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole for more than 1 year.


I think Evan Turner is gone. His value has diminished to the point where they can probably bring him back, but he has been a nonfactor since the trade. I winder if they'd consider a dealing Hill and Hibbert to us for a deal with Chandler as the centerpiece. I think Roy would be a better fit in the triangle and Chandler is a better fit for Indiana's defensive schemes. Plus, Chandler is better scorer at the rim. Hill would be a solid fit as point guard in the triangle.

The Knicks aren't making a crappy deal for Hibbert and Hill and killing their cap space. Stop that. Ideally, Indiana would be able to move Hill and significantly upgrade the PG position, but I don't see a way they can do that unless they're going to move David West or something.


It would kill cap space, but it would also bring an influx of talent to us at two positions where we need to upgrade. If guys like Luke Longley can ressurect their careers under the triangle, then I believe Hibbert is more than capable. Also, how many significant upgrades are out there for Indy to obtain using a package of Hill and West? Teague? Deal doesn't make sense for Atlanta. Lin, Knight or Jennings? They're not really upgrades. Indiana is going to have to be real creative if they want upgrade the point guard position.
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5/31/2014  10:45 PM
Diaw is a beast
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5/31/2014  10:54 PM
Westbrook is a horrible PG
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/31/2014  10:59 PM
Ibaka is a beast
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/31/2014  11:02 PM
mreinman wrote:Westbrook is a horrible PG

Very dynamic player. Six steals, just blocked a shot. If you have a talent like Westbrook you make it work

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5/31/2014  11:04 PM
The NBA seems to want
OKC and Heat final

Spurs getting jobbed on calls,

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5/31/2014  11:05 PM
Manu. My goodness
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5/31/2014  11:26 PM
Old School Ball..
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5/31/2014  11:27 PM
I love the way SA makes every possession count getting good looks at the basket...Old School..
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5/31/2014  11:30 PM
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y2zipper wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
y2zipper wrote:Playing Copeland or Scola probably doesn't make a difference for Indy. Indy's issue is that Hibbert and West are overpaid for what they bring, moreso Hibbert.

Indy can't really do anything except bring back and integrate more Evan Turner and sign Stephenson, but I wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole for more than 1 year.


I think Evan Turner is gone. His value has diminished to the point where they can probably bring him back, but he has been a nonfactor since the trade. I winder if they'd consider a dealing Hill and Hibbert to us for a deal with Chandler as the centerpiece. I think Roy would be a better fit in the triangle and Chandler is a better fit for Indiana's defensive schemes. Plus, Chandler is better scorer at the rim. Hill would be a solid fit as point guard in the triangle.

The Knicks aren't making a crappy deal for Hibbert and Hill and killing their cap space. Stop that. Ideally, Indiana would be able to move Hill and significantly upgrade the PG position, but I don't see a way they can do that unless they're going to move David West or something.


It would kill cap space, but it would also bring an influx of talent to us at two positions where we need to upgrade. If guys like Luke Longley can ressurect their careers under the triangle, then I believe Hibbert is more than capable. Also, how many significant upgrades are out there for Indy to obtain using a package of Hill and West? Teague? Deal doesn't make sense for Atlanta. Lin, Knight or Jennings? They're not really upgrades. Indiana is going to have to be real creative if they want upgrade the point guard position.

Chandler is better than Hibbert right now. That's not an upgrade in talent.
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5/31/2014  11:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/31/2014  11:36 PM
Did SA go ISO with the game on the line??..ISO such a dirty word..
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5/31/2014  11:37 PM
I guess now Phil can call Fisher?
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5/31/2014  11:37 PM
y2zipper wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
y2zipper wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
y2zipper wrote:Playing Copeland or Scola probably doesn't make a difference for Indy. Indy's issue is that Hibbert and West are overpaid for what they bring, moreso Hibbert.

Indy can't really do anything except bring back and integrate more Evan Turner and sign Stephenson, but I wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole for more than 1 year.


I think Evan Turner is gone. His value has diminished to the point where they can probably bring him back, but he has been a nonfactor since the trade. I winder if they'd consider a dealing Hill and Hibbert to us for a deal with Chandler as the centerpiece. I think Roy would be a better fit in the triangle and Chandler is a better fit for Indiana's defensive schemes. Plus, Chandler is better scorer at the rim. Hill would be a solid fit as point guard in the triangle.

The Knicks aren't making a crappy deal for Hibbert and Hill and killing their cap space. Stop that. Ideally, Indiana would be able to move Hill and significantly upgrade the PG position, but I don't see a way they can do that unless they're going to move David West or something.


It would kill cap space, but it would also bring an influx of talent to us at two positions where we need to upgrade. If guys like Luke Longley can ressurect their careers under the triangle, then I believe Hibbert is more than capable. Also, how many significant upgrades are out there for Indy to obtain using a package of Hill and West? Teague? Deal doesn't make sense for Atlanta. Lin, Knight or Jennings? They're not really upgrades. Indiana is going to have to be real creative if they want upgrade the point guard position.

Chandler is better than Hibbert right now. That's not an upgrade in talent.

I think if you take a chance on a flawed center with Tyson you trade for Bropez, but I don't think that is the way to go. Move Tyson for anything.
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5/31/2014  11:40 PM
martin wrote:I guess now Phil can call Fisher?

I still think he takes the Lakers job.
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6/1/2014  12:11 AM
I'll take Westbrook.
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6/1/2014  12:31 AM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:I guess now Phil can call Fisher?

I still think he takes the Lakers job.


If he retires and decides to coach does he get Kerr money? Ownership is a concern for both ny and la.
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