meloanyk wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Call it democratic, liberal, leftist or socialist policies. Here are some numbers in the American cities run by them.

OUT OF WEDLOCK BIRTHS BEFORE WELFARE 12%, AFTER WELFARE 72%

Then there are the families that scam the entire system.

It's not he people. It starts and ends with the policies, "leaders" and the corrupt politicians.

Fix em and we will all prosper. Culturally, spiritually and lastly in our pockets

Yes, because nothings changed since the invention of welfare other than the invention of welfare. It's like me saying that since you were born, out of wedlock births have increased dramatically, as have divorce rates- therefore you must be causing it! Correlation does not prove causation.

I don't even get what your percentages are= 12% or 72% of what?!

And what exactly is wrong with births -GASP!- out of wedlock? In the past people felt forced to marry if they got pregnant out of shame and social pressure, now a lot of people choose not to marry just because they're pregnant- I think that's a good thing.

Every system will be scammed- welfare scams are peanuts compared to corporate & political scams.

Unreal response. Blacks lose credibility when their culture doesn't stress responsibility especially related to actions that are within their control, every study shows direct correlations between out of wedlock births, single parenting and poverty levels for all people. Black culture should hold their men accountable, for raising and educating the children they bring into the world. Im a fan of Planned Parenthood but they can only educate and supply on birth control.

From blackdemographics.com 2014 stats.

"Poverty rates for Black families vary based on the family type. While 23% of all Black families live below the poverty level only 8% of Black married couple families live in poverty which is considerably lower than the 37% of Black families headed by single women who live below the poverty line. The highest poverty rates (46%) are for Black families with children which are headed by single Black women. This is significant considering more than half (55%) of all Black families with children are headed by single women."

Why are you suddenly talking about black people (and lazy stereotypes at that)? WTF?!

White people lose credibility when their culture leads them to posting like this. (I'm making a point with this line here not a genuine statement)

smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Call it democratic, liberal, leftist or socialist policies. Here are some numbers in the American cities run by them.

OUT OF WEDLOCK BIRTHS BEFORE WELFARE 12%, AFTER WELFARE 72%

Then there are the families that scam the entire system.

It's not he people. It starts and ends with the policies, "leaders" and the corrupt politicians.

Fix em and we will all prosper. Culturally, spiritually and lastly in our pockets

Yes, because nothings changed since the invention of welfare other than the invention of welfare. It's like me saying that since you were born, out of wedlock births have increased dramatically, as have divorce rates- therefore you must be causing it! Correlation does not prove causation.

I don't even get what your percentages are= 12% or 72% of what?!

And what exactly is wrong with births -GASP!- out of wedlock? In the past people felt forced to marry if they got pregnant out of shame and social pressure, now a lot of people choose not to marry just because they're pregnant- I think that's a good thing.

Every system will be scammed- welfare scams are peanuts compared to corporate & political scams.

GASP! How about kids living in poverty? GASP! Much better to just have the freedom to eff and run, right?
Guess you think this is a good thing, too, right?:

One of the many consequences of being a child of a single parent is that the child is more likely to be born into poverty and remain there. Today, 1 in 4 children under the age of 18, a total of about 17.4 million, are being raised without a father and nearly half (45 percent) live below the poverty line, according to the Single Mother Guide.

For those living with a father only, about 21 percent live in poverty. In contrast, among children living with both parents, 13 percent are counted as poverty stricken.

See any correlation there?

nixluva wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Call it democratic, liberal, leftist or socialist policies. Here are some numbers in the American cities run by them.

OUT OF WEDLOCK BIRTHS BEFORE WELFARE 12%, AFTER WELFARE 72%

Then there are the families that scam the entire system.

It's not he people. It starts and ends with the policies, "leaders" and the corrupt politicians.

Fix em and we will all prosper. Culturally, spiritually and lastly in our pockets

Yes, because nothings changed since the invention of welfare other than the invention of welfare. It's like me saying that since you were born, out of wedlock births have increased dramatically, as have divorce rates- therefore you must be causing it! Correlation does not prove causation.

I don't even get what your percentages are= 12% or 72% of what?!

And what exactly is wrong with births -GASP!- out of wedlock? In the past people felt forced to marry if they got pregnant out of shame and social pressure, now a lot of people choose not to marry just because they're pregnant- I think that's a good thing.

Every system will be scammed- welfare scams are peanuts compared to corporate & political scams.

Unreal response. Blacks lose credibility when their culture doesn't stress responsibility especially related to actions that are within their control, every study shows direct correlations between out of wedlock births, single parenting and poverty levels for all people. Black culture should hold their men accountable, for raising and educating the children they bring into the world. Im a fan of Planned Parenthood but they can only educate and supply on birth control.

From blackdemographics.com 2014 stats.

"Poverty rates for Black families vary based on the family type. While 23% of all Black families live below the poverty level only 8% of Black married couple families live in poverty which is considerably lower than the 37% of Black families headed by single women who live below the poverty line. The highest poverty rates (46%) are for Black families with children which are headed by single Black women. This is significant considering more than half (55%) of all Black families with children are headed by single women."

YO WTF??? You don't really want to get into the reasons behind a lot of this but just point out the statistics!!! I'm so tired of this kind of BS!!! You really think that all of this happened just cuz Blacks suddenly decided not to have Families in Wedlock??? Nothing else caused this shift just Blacks choosing to live in Single Family homes. There are a TON of very real actions and inactions taken by the Government and Society as a whole that have lead to this situation. It's not a simple choice that has brought this about.

My Daughter is married. My youngest Son is Married and in 3 weeks my Oldest Son is getting married. I try to understand the circumstances that have brought about the many issues facing the Black Community in this country. Lack of proper education, employment and role models are probably at the top of the list of hindrances. The judicial system and over-policing and sentencing is another issue on top of the others. We've had some great posts above that included Videos that did a full historical breakdown of how we got here. I suggest you find them and watch them or at least dig deeper into the subject. This wasn't an accident that we have the situation we have in the Black Community.

Your 3 kids got married? Wonderful,kudos to you, they are part of the 28% and your grandchildren will be fortunate to have been raised in a nuclear family that will give them a much greater chance at equality and success.

Hypocrisy reigns in this circle jerk here, many flail away with every blame whitey spin then disregard any failings or underlying problems in culture

2 days, good luck to all with Looney Tunes, he won't be politically correct or pandering but something tells me he'll improve the lives of the masses in the inner cities while being called a racist

holfresh wrote:How does one support a party that actively tries of limit people's ability to vote...

Why would any American do all they can to prevent another American from voting...

Its irrelevant apparently, everything is due to black people not marrying and culture apparently!

nixluva wrote:Just watching the Tom Price Senate Confirmation Hearings for HHS, I find it LAUGHABLE that all of a sudden the Republicans are saying they want to make sure everyone has insurance coverage! Since when did the Republicans really care about this? Before the Dems pushed for Universal Healthcare the Repubs were not even talking about covering all the Americans that didn't have coverage. As the ACA was being worked on they did everything they could to destroy chances of it getting passed. After the ACA was passed the Repubs refused to accept the Medicaid Expansion in many states, which left millions without insurance. CAN WE CUT ThE BS that the Repubs have wanted affordable Healthcare for all Americans???

This is how they play the game. See how even in your mind the bar is being set at people having insurance coverage? I can bet once they come out with a plan there'll be an option for a medium to high cost coverage that covers nothing has astronomical deductibles and all kinds of outs for the insurance companies - that will be the plan about 200 of those 300 million qualify for. But they can safely point at it and say - hey, everybody has coverage. At the end of the day once they have removed the tax provisions on the 1% they wont have money to pay for anything else.

meloanyk wrote:

nixluva wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Call it democratic, liberal, leftist or socialist policies. Here are some numbers in the American cities run by them.

OUT OF WEDLOCK BIRTHS BEFORE WELFARE 12%, AFTER WELFARE 72%

Then there are the families that scam the entire system.

It's not he people. It starts and ends with the policies, "leaders" and the corrupt politicians.

Fix em and we will all prosper. Culturally, spiritually and lastly in our pockets

Yes, because nothings changed since the invention of welfare other than the invention of welfare. It's like me saying that since you were born, out of wedlock births have increased dramatically, as have divorce rates- therefore you must be causing it! Correlation does not prove causation.

I don't even get what your percentages are= 12% or 72% of what?!

And what exactly is wrong with births -GASP!- out of wedlock? In the past people felt forced to marry if they got pregnant out of shame and social pressure, now a lot of people choose not to marry just because they're pregnant- I think that's a good thing.

Every system will be scammed- welfare scams are peanuts compared to corporate & political scams.

Unreal response. Blacks lose credibility when their culture doesn't stress responsibility especially related to actions that are within their control, every study shows direct correlations between out of wedlock births, single parenting and poverty levels for all people. Black culture should hold their men accountable, for raising and educating the children they bring into the world. Im a fan of Planned Parenthood but they can only educate and supply on birth control.

From blackdemographics.com 2014 stats.

"Poverty rates for Black families vary based on the family type. While 23% of all Black families live below the poverty level only 8% of Black married couple families live in poverty which is considerably lower than the 37% of Black families headed by single women who live below the poverty line. The highest poverty rates (46%) are for Black families with children which are headed by single Black women. This is significant considering more than half (55%) of all Black families with children are headed by single women."

YO WTF??? You don't really want to get into the reasons behind a lot of this but just point out the statistics!!! I'm so tired of this kind of BS!!! You really think that all of this happened just cuz Blacks suddenly decided not to have Families in Wedlock??? Nothing else caused this shift just Blacks choosing to live in Single Family homes. There are a TON of very real actions and inactions taken by the Government and Society as a whole that have lead to this situation. It's not a simple choice that has brought this about.

My Daughter is married. My youngest Son is Married and in 3 weeks my Oldest Son is getting married. I try to understand the circumstances that have brought about the many issues facing the Black Community in this country. Lack of proper education, employment and role models are probably at the top of the list of hindrances. The judicial system and over-policing and sentencing is another issue on top of the others. We've had some great posts above that included Videos that did a full historical breakdown of how we got here. I suggest you find them and watch them or at least dig deeper into the subject. This wasn't an accident that we have the situation we have in the Black Community.

Please spare me , reciting black history as a causation for everything is also tiresome. Black progress is stunted by this cultural problem that persists today . Blacks regardless of any civil right strides will never near equal footing with whites and other achieving minorities until this is fully addressed by black leadership and improved upon. Not exercising personal responsibility is not the fault of anyone other than the people involved who choose not to use birth control. If you bring a kid into this world you better understand what that entails .

Your 3 kids got married? Wonderful,kudos to you, they are part of the 28% and your grandchildren will be fortunate to have been raised in a nuclear family that will give them a much greater chance at equality and success.

Hypocrisy reigns in this circle jerk here, many flail away with every blame whitey spin then disregard any failings or underlying problems in culture

2 days, good luck to all with Looney Tunes, he won't be politically correct or pandering but something tells me he'll improve the lives of the masses in the inner cities while being called a racist

racist, white privilege and Uncle Tom. Libtards and their heros in media love those words. With encouragement from their political leaders

newyorknewyork wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

nixluva wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Call it democratic, liberal, leftist or socialist policies. Here are some numbers in the American cities run by them.

OUT OF WEDLOCK BIRTHS BEFORE WELFARE 12%, AFTER WELFARE 72%

Then there are the families that scam the entire system.

It's not he people. It starts and ends with the policies, "leaders" and the corrupt politicians.

Fix em and we will all prosper. Culturally, spiritually and lastly in our pockets

Yes, because nothings changed since the invention of welfare other than the invention of welfare. It's like me saying that since you were born, out of wedlock births have increased dramatically, as have divorce rates- therefore you must be causing it! Correlation does not prove causation.

I don't even get what your percentages are= 12% or 72% of what?!

And what exactly is wrong with births -GASP!- out of wedlock? In the past people felt forced to marry if they got pregnant out of shame and social pressure, now a lot of people choose not to marry just because they're pregnant- I think that's a good thing.

Every system will be scammed- welfare scams are peanuts compared to corporate & political scams.

Unreal response. Blacks lose credibility when their culture doesn't stress responsibility especially related to actions that are within their control, every study shows direct correlations between out of wedlock births, single parenting and poverty levels for all people. Black culture should hold their men accountable, for raising and educating the children they bring into the world. Im a fan of Planned Parenthood but they can only educate and supply on birth control.

From blackdemographics.com 2014 stats.

"Poverty rates for Black families vary based on the family type. While 23% of all Black families live below the poverty level only 8% of Black married couple families live in poverty which is considerably lower than the 37% of Black families headed by single women who live below the poverty line. The highest poverty rates (46%) are for Black families with children which are headed by single Black women. This is significant considering more than half (55%) of all Black families with children are headed by single women."

YO WTF??? You don't really want to get into the reasons behind a lot of this but just point out the statistics!!! I'm so tired of this kind of BS!!! You really think that all of this happened just cuz Blacks suddenly decided not to have Families in Wedlock??? Nothing else caused this shift just Blacks choosing to live in Single Family homes. There are a TON of very real actions and inactions taken by the Government and Society as a whole that have lead to this situation. It's not a simple choice that has brought this about.

My Daughter is married. My youngest Son is Married and in 3 weeks my Oldest Son is getting married. I try to understand the circumstances that have brought about the many issues facing the Black Community in this country. Lack of proper education, employment and role models are probably at the top of the list of hindrances. The judicial system and over-policing and sentencing is another issue on top of the others. We've had some great posts above that included Videos that did a full historical breakdown of how we got here. I suggest you find them and watch them or at least dig deeper into the subject. This wasn't an accident that we have the situation we have in the Black Community.

Please spare me , reciting black history as a causation for everything is also tiresome. Black progress is stunted by this cultural problem that persists today . Blacks regardless of any civil right strides will never near equal footing with whites and other achieving minorities until this is fully addressed by black leadership and improved upon. Not exercising personal responsibility is not the fault of anyone other than the people involved who choose not to use birth control. If you bring a kid into this world you better understand what that entails .

Your 3 kids got married? Wonderful,kudos to you, they are part of the 28% and your grandchildren will be fortunate to have been raised in a nuclear family that will give them a much greater chance at equality and success.

Hypocrisy reigns in this circle jerk here, many flail away with every blame whitey spin then disregard any failings or underlying problems in culture

2 days, good luck to all with Looney Tunes, he won't be politically correct or pandering but something tells me he'll improve the lives of the masses in the inner cities while being called a racist

You admittedly aren't informed enough about black history to be able to quantify cause and effect first and foremost. But thats the common accountability trait that "whitey" tends to display. None of that black history or accurate history in general taught within our school system, because "whitey" is so accountable. In reality though blacks are the most held accountable race in America. Blacks through out history have been held to the full extent of the law for any issues we have had and even issues we didn't have. I mean look at the last 3 presidents in Bush, Obama & Trump. Can you honestly say that you could picture a black president act the way Bush or Trump do or have the baggage that they have and be elected President? Obama had to basically be close to flawless in all aspects simply because he is black. While Trump.... And since you want to throw out stereotypical statistics. What are the statistics behind majority whites in politics being corrupt? And how much money have they swindled from the public year to date and on average per year? Or white owned corporations or wall street who use shady practices to generate income? Where are the figures on that and the effect on the economy?

Now back to the single mothers. While single black mothers have reached 72%, Child birth from black women overall is at the lowest point documented. Out of wedlock babies also doesn't specifically mean that the father isn't present or active or on welfare.

But while the number of unmarried black women has substantially grown, the actual birthrate (measured by births per 1000) for black women is it the lowest point that its ever documented.
So while a larger number of black women are choosing not to marry, many of those women are also choosing not to bring kids into the world. But there is something else.
As you can see the drop in the birthrate for unmarried black women is mirrored by an even steeper drop among married black women. Indeed, whereas at one point married black women were having more kids than married white women, they are now having less.
I point this out to show that the idea that the idea that, somehow, the black community has fallen into a morass of cultural pathology is convenient nostalgia. There is nothing “immoral” or “pathological” about deciding not to marry.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/26/black-single-mothers-biggest-impediment_n_3818824.html

Statistics can be used in anyway people want to interpret it and it is not proving anything alone.
It does not help when cultures and nations are declining and disappearing to look at the reasons why.
It is obvious that without strong family culture specific population group cannot hold its identity for long.
If there is no common and unique moral goal and purpose inside this group it will also be assimilated into other well defined nations.
I cannot see any reason in long run for Afro-American nation to exist. There is no historical or moral motivation.
So statistically single them out is useless and brings racist overtones.
Except of dividing people by the color of their skin it has no value.