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8/10/2020  7:31 AM
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Principal suspends students for holding the school accountable for their safety. Need public outcry and pressure for ppl to do the right thing. This is why the country is fed up the way it is in all aspects of society today.

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8/11/2020  4:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/11/2020  4:17 AM

He thinks anything he thinks must therefore be true

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8/12/2020  12:02 PM
Good luck Florida

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8/12/2020  12:10 PM
By comparison, NY lost 6 people yesterday

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8/13/2020  10:57 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coronavirus-found-frozen-food-packaging-chinese-cities-n1236574

Coronavirus found on frozen food packaging in Chinese cities

Three Chinese cities have reported detecting coronavirus on imported frozen food over the span of four days, raising fresh concerns contaminated food shipments could lead to new outbreaks.

On Thursday, health officials in the southeastern city of Shenzhen said a surface sample of frozen chicken wings from Brazil has tested positive for the virus. The virus was detected as part of routine screenings being carried out on meat and seafood imports since June in the wake of an outbreak in Beijing linked to a major wholesale food market

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8/15/2020  2:45 PM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29667299/fda-allowing-saliva-based-test-funded-nba

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency authorization on Saturday allowing public use of a saliva-based test for the coronavirus developed at Yale University and funded by the NBA and the National Basketball Players Association.

The test, known as SalivaDirect, is designed for widespread public screening. The cost per sample could be as low as about $4, though the cost to consumers will likely be higher than that -- perhaps around $15 or $20 in some cases, according to expert sources.

Yale administered the saliva test to a group that included NBA players and staff in the lead-up to the league's return to play and compared results to the nasal swab tests the same group took. The results almost universally matched, according to published research that has not yet been peer-reviewed.

The leading coronavirus saliva test, developed at a Rutgers University lab and given the same permission by the FDA in mid-April, costs individual consumers up to $150 -- though that can be reduced to $60 or $70 in some circumstances, said Andrew Brooks, an associate professor at Rutgers and chief operating officer of RUCDR Infinite Biologics, the lab behind the test. The Rutgers test can be taken at home and returns results in 24 to 48 hours

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8/16/2020  4:57 AM
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8/16/2020  5:37 AM
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It’s crazy how discrete they’ve managed to keep that number of deaths. Compare 9/11 to this- 200,000 deaths and barely a whisper, it’s unbelievable

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8/16/2020  5:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/16/2020  5:50 AM
Can’t remember what thread it was, but someone thought we might all be vaccinated by the Olympics. I wish that was the case, but this UK article gives an idea of how difficult it is to mass manufacture and distribute and administer a vaccine:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53741966

Coronavirus: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

Teams across the world are working to develop a vaccine that will be effective against Covid-19.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has called it "the most urgent shared endeavour of our lifetimes".

But away from the high-tech science of finding a winning formula, what about the logistics of rolling out a vaccine to seven billion people worldwide?
In the UK, the heart of that effort is at the Harwell Science Campus, on an ex-RAF airbase in Oxfordshire.
It is going to be the UK's Vaccines Manufacturing and Innovation Centre (VMIC), plans for which have been brought forward by Covid-19.

"We've really compressed the timeline into almost half. So whereas we were expecting to have it ready at the end of 2022, we're now hoping to have it online in 2021," explains Matthew Duchars, chief executive of VMIC.

'Like baking a cake'

Mr Duchars is yet to take a summer holiday because he knows that this place could end up producing the Oxford University vaccine. He's in constant touch with the team at the Jenner Institute, just down the road in Oxford.

He says it's a heavy responsibility.

"It's critically important, not just for the country but globally, to be able to produce these types of vaccines quickly and effectively," he says.

"To use an analogy - it's like baking a cake at home. You can spend hours preparing the perfect cake and now you've got to go out and bake 70 million of them and they all have to be perfect, so it's quite a challenge."

That's putting it mildly.

Oxford University has already had to secure enough temporary lab space to start manufacturing its vaccine now, even before it knows the results of its global trials.
Ultimately, the human race will need to make billions of doses of several types of Covid-19 vaccines. They will all have to be manufactured, distributed and administered across the globe.

The international vaccines alliance - Gavi - is urging countries to start thinking about vaccine rollout now.

But it's not easy to get international co-operation, because many rich countries are already doing bilateral deals with drug companies to make sure they can secure supplies if the magic formula is found.

Overcoming self-interest

Seth Berkley, Gavi's CEO, says one of the biggest hurdles he's facing is so-called "vaccine nationalism".

"I think we need all countries to be thinking about this in a globally minded way, partially because it's the right thing to do but also because it's a self-interest issue," he says.

"If you have large reservoirs of virus circulating in surrounding countries, you can't go back to your normal trade, travel or movement of people. It's really important to have that mindset: we're not safe, unless everybody is safe."

As well as trying to make sure developing countries get access to the right vaccines, Mr Berkley has to think about the more prosaic aspects of vaccine roll-out, including whether or not there are enough glass vials in the world. There have been reports of a potential bottleneck in medical glass production.

"We were worried about that," Mr Berkley admits, "so we went ahead and purchased enough vials for two billion doses, that's the number of doses we hope to have ready by the end of 2021."

If glass vials are a potential problem, then so are fridges, since most vaccines need to be kept at low temperatures.
Keeping it cold

Prof Toby Peters, an expert in cold chain logistics at Birmingham University, is helping organisations like Gavi think about how they can maximise existing refrigeration capacity in developing countries.

He says: "It's not just a vaccine fridge, it's actually all the other pieces too: the pallets which move it in the planes; the vehicles that move it to the local stores, and then the motorbikes and the people who take it out right into the communities. All these have to work seamlessly."

Prof Peters has been talking to global food and drink companies to explore borrowing cold chain storage to help with this mammoth project.
To make the vaccine roll-out more manageable, countries will have to work out who to prioritise in their populations.

Who's first in line?

Dr Charlie Weller, head of vaccines at the UK's Wellcome Trust, says countries are going to have to ask some frank questions.
"Who needs this vaccine? Which are the highest risk groups? And who are the highest priority? Because what we're pretty clear about is any initial vaccine is likely to outstrip supply, so choices will need to be made."

Even doing the actual vaccinations will be tricky.

The UK, for example, is looking at a template which uses its network of polling stations as a way to process the population. But for poorer countries it's even more daunting.

Dr Weller insists strong healthcare systems will be key, with healthcare workers who have the right technical skills to immunise the target groups.

The scientists all think some kind of vaccine will be found. But many of them say they are kept awake at night by the sheer scale of what needs to be done to get it to billions of people.

So issues around manufacturing capacity for the vaccine itself, refrigeration capacity for when it’s manufactured, glass vials to put each dose in, and that’s before you fathom out how to actually administer it to people (UK thinking of using the voting system, so people would turn up to where they normally vote to have it done.). Plus there’s the decision on who to give it to first- those most at risk (over 70 year olds), or the working population so they can go out and work

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8/17/2020  4:08 PM
Cluster****

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8/17/2020  10:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/17/2020  10:15 PM
martin wrote:Cluster****

It gets worse. All these people who forced kids to go back to school are the worse. I would not even open school if they were attempting to actually follow CDC guidelines because we all know kids wont do it. These School districts are not even trying. They are opening like its a normal school year. Unbelievable!



Politics are going to be the death of so many people. Notice how we have not had any reporting on Hospital capacity or death rates since trump routed all info to his people. All those elderly people who vote republican without a second thought are instantly thrown away once they get in the way of opening the economy. Whichever elderly voters who are still alive will vote for Trump next election because they are a bunch of idiots.

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8/18/2020  4:08 AM
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martin wrote:Cluster****

It gets worse. All these people who forced kids to go back to school are the worse. I would not even open school if they were attempting to actually follow CDC guidelines because we all know kids wont do it. These School districts are not even trying. They are opening like its a normal school year. Unbelievable!



Politics are going to be the death of so many people. Notice how we have not had any reporting on Hospital capacity or death rates since trump routed all info to his people. All those elderly people who vote republican without a second thought are instantly thrown away once they get in the way of opening the economy. Whichever elderly voters who are still alive will vote for Trump next election because they are a bunch of idiots.

As long as he keeps up with the racism and xenophobia they’ll happily vote for him because he’s ‘on their side’ even if it literally kills them- pretty tragic.

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8/18/2020  11:27 AM
Not sure if it's on the news, but Russia has come up with the vaccine more than a week ago. They are doing testing. I wonder if the FDA will approve it this year.
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8/18/2020  11:31 AM
ramtour420 wrote:Not sure if it's on the news, but Russia has come up with the vaccine more than a week ago. They are doing testing. I wonder if the FDA will approve it this year.

You believe this to be true?

Also, what is your take on all of the people falling out of open windows?

And, how come you think any of this is legit?

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8/18/2020  1:27 PM
ramtour420 wrote:Not sure if it's on the news, but Russia has come up with the vaccine more than a week ago. They are doing testing. I wonder if the FDA will approve it this year.

Nobody trusts it. Supposedly they hardly did much testing. I think they’ll put it out regardless of the FDA. I read the US is completely dismissing it. That was from a couple of weeks ago though. I might not have the facts straight.... other than the nobody trusts them part.

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8/21/2020  2:31 PM
I cannot think of one positive reason for this to happen

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8/23/2020  3:12 PM
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8/23/2020  9:12 PM
martin wrote:I cannot think of one positive reason for this to happen

$hit that’s bad. I think Trump would do ANYTHING not to lose this election. That’s f’ing scary.

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8/23/2020  9:49 PM
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martin wrote:I cannot think of one positive reason for this to happen

$hit that’s bad. I think Trump would do ANYTHING not to lose this election. That’s f’ing scary.

It was already scary 4 years ago when dumbasses thought it was a good idea to vote for this douchebag

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8/25/2020  11:55 AM

The title of the story is "The University of Alabama reports over 500 Covid-19 cases less than a week after classes started"

A bunch of idiots run the school system.

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