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meloshouldgo
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9/23/2016  7:08 PM
Sure they are of consequence, But like I posted before, HRC has not earned my vote. I am not interested in voting against someone, and she is yet to convince me that I should vote for her.
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9/23/2016  7:17 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:Sure they are of consequence, But like I posted before, HRC has not earned my vote. I am not interested in voting against someone, and she is yet to convince me that I should vote for her.

Total BS cop out..Like Goldman concerns could rival anything that I have stated..

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9/23/2016  7:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2016  7:33 PM
First of all corporate profits are not at all time highs..They are poor...The gap between profits and debt for non-financials are displaying historic gaps the wrong way...The global central banks are greasing the stock markets around the globe and thus the s&p500 is not where it should be...Stocks are trading at multiples that are given the experts undesired queasiness...

This is not just another election...Hold you nose and go and vote...
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9/23/2016  7:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2016  7:43 PM
Chump's cabinet will make Bush's cabinet looks like a team of Nobel laureates...Imagine his kids influencing decisions..Skiddles..
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9/23/2016  7:58 PM
holfresh wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Sure they are of consequence, But like I posted before, HRC has not earned my vote. I am not interested in voting against someone, and she is yet to convince me that I should vote for her.

Total BS cop out..Like Goldman concerns could rival anything that I have stated..

Why is it a cop out? I don't think she can do the job and I won't vote for her.

I honestly don't like her - I think her attempts at any of the issues will be mostly lip service and totally rebuffed by republicans and her actual policies will still benefit the rich and Wall St or ugly compromises that benefit no one. I don't think she cares for Black people or brown people or yellow people, in fact I don't think she cares for people at all. I used to like her earlier when she stood for something, now I feel she is an empty talking head with no convictions and no values. I can't quote articles to prove this, it's just how I feel. She has zero personality, no charisma nothing about her is convincing in any way. I was ready to believe in her and she couldn't convince the cynic in me, how is she going to convince republicans to go along with her policies?

I don't see a future where voting for her can lead to anything good. And like I said before I am not going to vote fore her simply because it will be less bad than Trump.

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9/23/2016  7:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2016  8:00 PM
holfresh wrote:

This is not just another election...Hold you nose and go and vote...

Maybe I will, I am not there yet and Hillary isn't helping

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9/23/2016  8:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2016  8:04 PM
This I know, if I die a cynic - I am definitely blaming Hillary Rodham Clinton
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9/23/2016  8:07 PM
United States Corporate Profits 1950-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar
Corporate profits in the United States decreased by 2.4 percent or $36.3 billion to $1469.7 billion in the second quarter of 2016, after rising an upwardly revised 8.1 percent in the previous period, preliminary estimates showed. Dividends decreased 0.9 percent or $8.2 billion in the second quarter (compared to a gain of 0.8 percent or $7.3 billion in Q1) and undistributed profits dropped 5.2 percent or $28.1 billion (compared to a rise of 24.3 percent or $106.1 billion in Q1). Also, net cash flow with inventory valuation adjustment, the internal funds available to corporations for investment, fell 1.1 percent or $22 billion, after going up by 5.7 percent or $112.7 billion in the previous period. Corporate Profits in the United States averaged 407.24 USD Billion from 1950 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 1642.70 USD Billion in the third quarter of 2014 and a record low of 14.40 USD Billion in the first quarter of 1951. Corporate Profits in the United States is reported by the U.S. Bureau of Economics Analysis.
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9/23/2016  8:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2016  8:14 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
holfresh wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Sure they are of consequence, But like I posted before, HRC has not earned my vote. I am not interested in voting against someone, and she is yet to convince me that I should vote for her.

Total BS cop out..Like Goldman concerns could rival anything that I have stated..

Why is it a cop out? I don't think she can do the job and I won't vote for her.

I honestly don't like her - I think her attempts at any of the issues will be mostly lip service and totally rebuffed by republicans and her actual policies will still benefit the rich and Wall St or ugly compromises that benefit no one. I don't think she cares for Black people or brown people or yellow people, in fact I don't think she cares for people at all. I used to like her earlier when she stood for something, now I feel she is an empty talking head with no convictions and no values. I can't quote articles to prove this, it's just how I feel. She has zero personality, no charisma nothing about her is convincing in any way. I was ready to believe in her and she couldn't convince the cynic in me, how is she going to convince republicans to go along with her policies?

I don't see a future where voting for her can lead to anything good. And like I said before I am not going to vote fore her simply because it will be less bad than Trump.

With regards to blacks..Hillary went undercover out of law school working for a black lawyers in the South to expose segregation in schools..As First Lady, she spearheaded health care for children which was implemented..He received outstanding ratings as a Senator and Secretary of Stae from both parties before she decided to run for President..She is a policy wonk with no personality..She gets the job done which is fine by me..I don't need the foreplay or romance like most dems...

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9/23/2016  8:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2016  8:19 PM
Remember when Bush was trying to sell our ports to UAE after 9/11..He almost gave protection of our ports and toll plazas to the Arabs after 9/11... What do you think business man Trump will do, he might sell it to the Russians..
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9/23/2016  8:28 PM
holfresh wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
holfresh wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Sure they are of consequence, But like I posted before, HRC has not earned my vote. I am not interested in voting against someone, and she is yet to convince me that I should vote for her.

Total BS cop out..Like Goldman concerns could rival anything that I have stated..

Why is it a cop out? I don't think she can do the job and I won't vote for her.

I honestly don't like her - I think her attempts at any of the issues will be mostly lip service and totally rebuffed by republicans and her actual policies will still benefit the rich and Wall St or ugly compromises that benefit no one. I don't think she cares for Black people or brown people or yellow people, in fact I don't think she cares for people at all. I used to like her earlier when she stood for something, now I feel she is an empty talking head with no convictions and no values. I can't quote articles to prove this, it's just how I feel. She has zero personality, no charisma nothing about her is convincing in any way. I was ready to believe in her and she couldn't convince the cynic in me, how is she going to convince republicans to go along with her policies?

I don't see a future where voting for her can lead to anything good. And like I said before I am not going to vote fore her simply because it will be less bad than Trump.

With regards to blacks..Hillary went undercover out of law school working for a black lawyers in the South to expose segregation in schools..As First Lady, she spearheaded health care for children which was implemented..He received outstanding ratings as a Senator and Secretary of Stae from both parties before she decided to run for President..She is a policy wonk with no personality..She gets the job done which is fine by me..I don't need the foreplay or romance like most dems...

See above - she got the job done before, I give her that. I just don't see it happening anymore. There's so much hatred now and so little respect. She won't get off first base. You may not need foreplay, Paul Ryan might have other ideas. [UGH - really bad visual, Billary Ryan threesome...gross]

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9/23/2016  8:32 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:Sure they are of consequence, But like I posted before, HRC has not earned my vote. I am not interested in voting against someone, and she is yet to convince me that I should vote for her.

Who cares what Hillary earns or deserves. Vote for her because you will actually get to live in a better country than with a Trump presidency.

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9/23/2016  8:34 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
holfresh wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
holfresh wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Sure they are of consequence, But like I posted before, HRC has not earned my vote. I am not interested in voting against someone, and she is yet to convince me that I should vote for her.

Total BS cop out..Like Goldman concerns could rival anything that I have stated..

Why is it a cop out? I don't think she can do the job and I won't vote for her.

I honestly don't like her - I think her attempts at any of the issues will be mostly lip service and totally rebuffed by republicans and her actual policies will still benefit the rich and Wall St or ugly compromises that benefit no one. I don't think she cares for Black people or brown people or yellow people, in fact I don't think she cares for people at all. I used to like her earlier when she stood for something, now I feel she is an empty talking head with no convictions and no values. I can't quote articles to prove this, it's just how I feel. She has zero personality, no charisma nothing about her is convincing in any way. I was ready to believe in her and she couldn't convince the cynic in me, how is she going to convince republicans to go along with her policies?

I don't see a future where voting for her can lead to anything good. And like I said before I am not going to vote fore her simply because it will be less bad than Trump.

With regards to blacks..Hillary went undercover out of law school working for a black lawyers in the South to expose segregation in schools..As First Lady, she spearheaded health care for children which was implemented..He received outstanding ratings as a Senator and Secretary of Stae from both parties before she decided to run for President..She is a policy wonk with no personality..She gets the job done which is fine by me..I don't need the foreplay or romance like most dems...

See above - she got the job done before, I give her that. I just don't see it happening anymore. There's so much hatred now and so little respect. She won't get off first base. You may not need foreplay, Paul Ryan might have other ideas. [UGH - really bad visual, Billary Ryan threesome...gross]

The republicans are self destructing..First was the tea party and now Trump is their front man..It's not sustainable..Young people are more liberal and tolerant..It's only a matter of time..

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9/23/2016  8:34 PM
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meloshouldgo wrote:Sure they are of consequence, But like I posted before, HRC has not earned my vote. I am not interested in voting against someone, and she is yet to convince me that I should vote for her.

Who cares what Hillary earns or deserves. Vote for her because you will actually get to live in a better country than with a Trump presidency.

I care. It's my vote. And I know Hillary doesn't care. Somewhere in there is the crux of the problem.

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9/23/2016  8:37 PM
Americans are crazy..They think the country is going in the wrong direction..The president has a 50+ approval rating and Congress is in single digits..But they want to change direction of the president and keep congress..
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9/23/2016  8:40 PM
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meloshouldgo wrote:Sure they are of consequence, But like I posted before, HRC has not earned my vote. I am not interested in voting against someone, and she is yet to convince me that I should vote for her.

Who cares what Hillary earns or deserves. Vote for her because you will actually get to live in a better country than with a Trump presidency.

Exactly..It's like John Kerry wasn't a great and sexy candidate but you know not to vote for Bush..

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9/23/2016  8:41 PM
Or maybe it has sunk in that they are just stuck with Congress. The POTUS on the other hand can be recycled. You can fire those every 4 years, but you just can't clean House (or Seante)
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9/23/2016  8:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2016  8:46 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:Or maybe it has sunk in that they are just stuck with Congress. The POTUS on the other hand can be recycled. You can fire those every 4 years, but you just can't clean House (or Seante)

House every 2 years and senate 6ish depending on election cycle yada..yada..
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9/23/2016  8:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/23/2016  8:55 PM
Too much on the line to stay home this election..Trump as representative of this country, think about that for a second...
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9/23/2016  8:55 PM
holfresh wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Or maybe it has sunk in that they are just stuck with Congress. The POTUS on the other hand can be recycled. You can fire those every 4 years, but you just can't clean House (or Seante)

House every 2 years and senate 6ish depending on election cycle yada..yada..

Not what I meant, by clean house I mean ALL incumbents GONE!!! It can happen in theory, but not realistic. Congress definitely needs a reset. Younger and smarter people needed, not these 60 year old partisan farts.

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