Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by MS:

I like this move, because it means that others are coming, and Zeke may really be thinking about moving Marbury, which I like, if you utlize Q in the post more it could be a real asset....

His shot selection wasn't great but thats only because he played in a system that didn't have structure.....

If we can get boozer for an expiring contract I would be very excited. And Q is movable which makes the deal extremely appealing and frees up a slot in the front court.....

Don't waste money on Hunter or a pick on Frye......I still like Granger or Brynum with the pick

We need a pick that could explode down the road not just be a role player

Yeah I think Isiah maybe looking to move Marbury now too and just go young. I think both Herb and Isiah envision Crawford as a pg and not a sg. Funny enough, I don't think Isiah would be able to trade Marbury even if he wanted to. I mean he can find a taker but there is no way he is going to convince his owner that he now wants to trade away the only star player his team has, Dolan getting some nice returns on Marbury despite the bad season.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by fishmike:

its too bad Tim Thomas is such a girl. Even with Frye we could have a very strong bunch of guys starting
Marbury - pitbull
Q- 6'6 235
TT- 6'10 240
MS- 6'8 400
Frye- 6'10

Thats a lot of meat but you have some serious athletes there as well.
bench: Crawford, JYD, Rose, Ariza, Mo

We know how the Knicks use expiring contracts. I can't see TT on the team much longer.

I think this a pretty BAD deal for Phoenix. Kurt is not what they need. They need a center, not a 32 year old, slow PF. They must be planning to (a) use Kurt as the starting center (a horrible move); (b) use Kurt as a backup PF for about 10 mpg (which is not a big enough role to justify giving up Q-Rich for); or (c) plan to use Kurt at PF and Amare at C. This latter option is okay for them, but they really need to move Amare down to PF and forget about getting Kurt. They should go after Ty Chandler, Sam Dalembert, maybe Jamal Magloire. There are far better options for them with the assets they have than to get Kurt.

exactly the reason I am worried about this trade not going down! even Magloire would be a hell of a lot better, longer and younger than KT and the Hornets would take Q. Well I'll have my fingers crossed

We draft-
#8- Charlie Villanueva PF
#30- Martynas Andriuskevicius C
#54 John Gilchrist PG

Trade Penny Hardaway for a 2005 2nd rd pick to a team that wants to trim salary.

Sign and trade Sweetney/T.Thomas for Zydrunas Ilgauskas

CUT- Allan Houston, and save 40 mil in luxury taxes.


Ilgauskas/Andriuskevicius
Villanueva/Rose/Taylor/Williams/Butler
Richardson/Ariza
Crawford/Jackson
Marbury/Gilchrist

This would give Steph a chance to play with a big man that runs and finishes on the break, someone that stretches the D, INCREASED DEFENSIVE PRESENCE, just an overall pretty decent team. We'd have youth, athleticism, a fun team to watch that would push the ball... a heck of a lot of power forwards but hey what else is new!

Posted by diderotn:

You have to be kidding me........Dude are you insane???

Listen If you follow the game, you know that the major flaw to this trade would be defensively. Q, Crawford and Steph are not gonna be the best on this end. Although, I think defense is a skill that can be learned.. If you play ball you gotta know that learning how to score on offense is a way harder task.

Charlie Villanueva gives NYK a strong player on both ends of the court... he is certainly better than any big man we have. His downside is obviously the fact that he does not have a dominating mentality. To me, his potential upside is too intriguing to pass up. A 6'11 Do it all player? C'mon are you insane for not realizing the potential.. and knowing how much of an impact he can make paired w/ Starbury?

Ilgauskas gives us a Center that can play until Andriuskevicius develops. You gotta grab him if he slips to 30. Which is most likely, given the talks about his buyout clause. Remember Maciej Lampe??? This kid is 19, and could benefit from playing behind Big Z.

John Gilchrist, is nice.. Have you watched this kid play at MD??? He is like 20 years old and might be the steal of this years draft! At number 54, what is to think about? You eventually get a potential replacement should Steph be traded.

I know you have like 3000 posts or somethin like that, but you should have used a little reasoning before post'n that response to my hypothetical. But I ain't mad

[Edited by - JayNYC on 06/23/2005 10:32:59]

Posted by djsunyc:

i think the logical next step is to get boozer in here ASAP.