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Alpha1971 wrote:Dadiet continues to play with confidence he might make Mo expendable in a trade for a big. Or it's nice to have two young wing in Diawara and Pacome going forward. Nickle keeps this up he is our first rounder in the second round. Don't understand why we didn't draft a center with pick 24 25 or 28 or 31 as we could have had a young center and locked up 14 roster spots including Drummond. Anyway maybe a center emerges in G league from another roster or we sign Nick Richards on a vet min.

Because learning the league, opposing players, and NBA level defense is incredibly hard. Look how long it took an elite level backup like Mitch or iHart to become effective. Years. Name all of the centers at the back end or front of second round who made a backup level impact for a deep playoff team and you will have your answer.

I’d guess the Knicks feel like trading for an upgrade is probably a better path, Knicks got duplicate guards on good contracts to spare.

Guaranteed salary for a first rounder would have made signing Mo, Shamet, Clarkson, GTA much harder with second apron restriction.

Pre-draft this year I saw plenty of projections with us and Nickel but very late in the second round. We must have been paranoid thinking he was on someone else's radar. Hurray for us!!

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He's competent, moves his feet well enough and is court aware re: open men and switching.

Like the scouting on him has said, overall he's a decent defender with a strong frame and he may sometimes struggle with quicker players.

In general, guys who concentrate on good fundamentals can still succeed at staying in front of their man 90% of the time even when they are slower than the person they are defending.

A good example of this was Kolek's defense improved a lot during the season last year for the same reason. He focused on staying in front of his man and he improved.

Coaching and player willingness to learn is a key factor in successful team defenses anyway, since not everyone has elite defensive potential.

fitzfarm wrote:Hopefully the German kid gets some burn tonight. I expect Mo to do alittle better, and pacome needs to show a killer instinct. He’s so passive, gives me Kevin Knox vibes .

Hopefully we actually run some plays this game, and get the ball moving .

Dadiet drove the lane quite a bit in the first game. It may be a nuance of expression to say instead he should be more assertive instead of saying he's passive. I don't think he is entirely passive, but I think he tends to be somewhat deferential or lack the selfish gene that makes him demand the ball.

IOW, he does attack and take shots, but since he is in SL and not on the main club, it should be OK for him to take on the role of lead scorer (which he was anyway).

So far, my perception of Dadiet is he doesn't have much trouble getting to the rim, yet he could attack even more anytime he sees a sliver of daylight.

He can also shoot the three so his ability to penetrate does bode well for his inside/outside game. If he has a floater or a mid-range pull-up he could score from anywhere on the court.

I posted about the softness of his presence, because I think it is easy to confuse that for passivity. I think he's probably just a smooth player who could become more assertive overall.

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He's competent, moves his feet well enough and is court aware re: open men and switching.

Like the scouting on him has said, overall he's a decent defender with a strong frame and he may sometimes struggle with quicker players.

In general, guys who concentrate on good fundamentals can still succeed at staying in front of their man 90% of the time even when they are slower than the person they are defending.

A good example of this was Kolek's defense improved a lot during the season last year for the same reason. He focused on staying in front of his man and he improved.

Coaching and player willingness to learn is a key factor in successful team defenses anyway, since not everyone has elite defensive potential.

Good points. Smart players know their strengths and weaknesses but won't give up. If you can't stop them, then slow them down and make it harder.

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Alpha1971 wrote:Dadiet continues to play with confidence he might make Mo expendable in a trade for a big. Or it's nice to have two young wing in Diawara and Pacome going forward. Nickle keeps this up he is our first rounder in the second round. Don't understand why we didn't draft a center with pick 24 25 or 28 or 31 as we could have had a young center and locked up 14 roster spots including Drummond. Anyway maybe a center emerges in G league from another roster or we sign Nick Richards on a vet min.

Because learning the league, opposing players, and NBA level defense is incredibly hard. Look how long it took an elite level backup like Mitch or iHart to become effective. Years. Name all of the centers at the back end or front of second round who made a backup level impact for a deep playoff team and you will have your answer.

I’d guess the Knicks feel like trading for an upgrade is probably a better path, Knicks got duplicate guards on good contracts to spare.

Guaranteed salary for a first rounder would have made signing Mo, Shamet, Clarkson, GTA much harder with second apron restriction.

If we can trade for Cisse it will have worked out better than drafting a big. And i agree with your assessment. We have too many guards and should be able to swing a deal for him.

But passing on Carr at 24 was a mistake. He might be ready to contribute this year but we could’ve waited if he ends up not being ready

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martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:Dadiet continues to play with confidence he might make Mo expendable in a trade for a big. Or it's nice to have two young wing in Diawara and Pacome going forward. Nickle keeps this up he is our first rounder in the second round. Don't understand why we didn't draft a center with pick 24 25 or 28 or 31 as we could have had a young center and locked up 14 roster spots including Drummond. Anyway maybe a center emerges in G league from another roster or we sign Nick Richards on a vet min.

Because learning the league, opposing players, and NBA level defense is incredibly hard. Look how long it took an elite level backup like Mitch or iHart to become effective. Years. Name all of the centers at the back end or front of second round who made a backup level impact for a deep playoff team and you will have your answer.

I’d guess the Knicks feel like trading for an upgrade is probably a better path, Knicks got duplicate guards on good contracts to spare.

Guaranteed salary for a first rounder would have made signing Mo, Shamet, Clarkson, GTA much harder with second apron restriction.

If we can trade for Cisse it will have worked out better than drafting a big. And i agree with your assessment. We have too many guards and should be able to swing a deal for him.

But passing on Carr at 24 was a mistake. He might be ready to contribute this year but we could’ve waited if he ends up not being ready

I don’t mean to be repetitive but to think that someone like Carr may be ready to crack a rotation of Mikal Deuce Shamet Clarkson Hart is not really solid on any grounds. Zero.

I would have loved to draft him but your expectations are way off and not based in reality.

This is a championship level team. Mo did some insane stuff and was shelved.

Why do you keep repeating the same wish based hope?

I literally said he MIGHT be ready to contribute this year. We wouldn’t NEED him to be ready this year