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EwingsGlass wrote:

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Clean wrote:

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Yall know how much I like ball and player movement.

Unbelievable. Basketball can be sooo pretty

The offball motion at the 40 to 44 second mark. Hart diving in the paint. Two corners and two guys moving to the top of the key. Three defenders packing the paint and the corners are wide open. Two closeouts to the top of the key have their back to the board. Randle slips too far into the paint. Can't closeout in time. Yabu fires. Bridges fills the space where Randle used to be (also the high probably rebound location) forward looking and heads up, but not needed cause Yabu catches nothing but net. High probability they get the O rebound off that if it missed.

That's analytically amazing 5 out offense. Off ball movement that tracks probabilities. Motion that creates positional advantage and vertical spacing. Gorgeous.

Yup, every instance of player and/or ball movement makes the defense have to make a decision. Every decision the defense makes is an inflection point and gives them more opportunities to make a mistake. This is why I was never high on ISO offense with no player movement. You give the defense rests. They are easy to gameplan againt and they provide little chances for the defense makes a mistake.

Exactly.

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This is pretty much like attracting double teams in the post. Look at all those black jerseys trying to keep him off the boards. Mitch's elite offensive rebounding is almost like having an elite post scoring player. You guys sure you really want to trade him away?

EwingsGlass wrote:Looking at the team stats, this game is interesting. TWolves shot 47% from 3 on 40 attempts. They took 8 more FTs and shot 88% from the line. With a hit shooting night, how’d they get blown out by 23? Knicks matched their shooting from 3. Got busy in the paint. And outrebounded them by 19 rebounds. Monster night for the Knicks. Really interesting numbers here

TWolves took 83 FGA total in game, Knicks took 102. Rebounding, especially offensive.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202511050NYK.html

LivingLegend wrote:I think Clarkson opens up Deuce a little bit more this year --- allows him to spot up more and I think Cam tended to ignore Deuce.

Maybe just wishful thinking on my part but I think Clarkson is playing very well and in the flow while also providing creativity and paint touches we need.

Clarkson is good for 1 "WTF" pass, but he puts a lot of pressure on the defense and can finish at the rim. Neither him or Deuce is a PG, but both can handle and do enough. Clarkson particularly good at getting the "sprays" that Brown wants. Kick out 3s.

martin wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:Looking at the team stats, this game is interesting. TWolves shot 47% from 3 on 40 attempts. They took 8 more FTs and shot 88% from the line. With a hit shooting night, how’d they get blown out by 23? Knicks matched their shooting from 3. Got busy in the paint. And outrebounded them by 19 rebounds. Monster night for the Knicks. Really interesting numbers here

TWolves took 83 FGA total in game, Knicks took 102. Rebounding, especially offensive.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202511050NYK.html

Kind of looks like their motion opens up better chances at long ORebs off threes. And MitchBeast is just a dominant force on the block

VDesai wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:I think Clarkson opens up Deuce a little bit more this year --- allows him to spot up more and I think Cam tended to ignore Deuce.

Maybe just wishful thinking on my part but I think Clarkson is playing very well and in the flow while also providing creativity and paint touches we need.

Clarkson is good for 1 "WTF" pass, but he puts a lot of pressure on the defense and can finish at the rim. Neither him or Deuce is a PG, but both can handle and do enough. Clarkson particularly good at getting the "sprays" that Brown wants. Kick out 3s.

Was going to bring this up as a general question. What does everyone think of the second unit “PG” play between Deuce, Hart, and Clarkson and if it’ll be enough in the long term?

Deuce’s handle looks improved. Brown looks like he is aiming to have Clarkson handle and be a rim diver and C&S guy, all looking pretty good to me. And then you got Josh who’d rather pass than shoot.

I think it works except maybe needs to be tested under extreme pressure teams like Miami or OKC or Indy from last year?

I’d love to see Kolek work out but he’s just not ready for a deep playoff team.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

VDesai wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:I think Clarkson opens up Deuce a little bit more this year --- allows him to spot up more and I think Cam tended to ignore Deuce.

Maybe just wishful thinking on my part but I think Clarkson is playing very well and in the flow while also providing creativity and paint touches we need.

Clarkson is good for 1 "WTF" pass, but he puts a lot of pressure on the defense and can finish at the rim. Neither him or Deuce is a PG, but both can handle and do enough. Clarkson particularly good at getting the "sprays" that Brown wants. Kick out 3s.

Was going to bring this up as a general question. What does everyone think of the second unit “PG” play between Deuce, Hart, and Clarkson and if it’ll be enough in the long term?

Deuce’s handle looks improved. Brown looks like he is aiming to have Clarkson handle and be a rim diver and C&S guy, all looking pretty good to me. And then you got Josh who’d rather pass than shoot.

I think it works except maybe needs to be tested under extreme pressure teams like Miami or OKC or Indy from last year?

I’d love to see Kolek work out but he’s just not ready for a deep playoff team.

Don't forget to add Bridges. His playmaking has improved and he looks comfortable handling secondary ball handling responsibilities.

Yes. I was thinking of guys off bench when Jalen wasn’t on court but 100%