BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:I don't know why Murphy is the guy mentioned. Herb Jones is the perfect contract match with Mitch. I have not read articles.

Yeah, Jones would seem more likely. I would pass. The Knicks can't afford to get smaller.

He was first team All NBA defense. All NBA defense was Herb Jones and 4 centers. Meaning, he is the best 'qualifying' wing defender in the league last year (I see you OG). 41% 3pt shooting and a 7'1.5" wingspan? Played 76 games last year. Locked in low price contract through 26-27 paying under 15m. Seriously, what more could a person want?

Trey is also a gem, but Jones is already collecting accolades. I would take either and give up additional assets to end up with either. Could see us with Murphy and Nick Richards (CHA) in an absolute coup.

I think both are unlikely TBH. I'm a fan of both, but one of the reasons for the their Brandon Ingram impasse is that they see Trey Murphy as his successor. They're probably not giving him up. Also, as good as Jones is, he's another 3 and D. We could use him. Every team could use him. But our center depth is almost as bad as the Pelicans. Can we really afford to trade big for small?

Towns is probably a 5 in NYC - so then your center depth is theoretically Towns, Precious and Sims (and even Huk Hogan). Now the issues is your power forward depth. However the way things going the Knicks are gonna playing Anunoby and Hart at the 4 in a lot of lineups and someone like Jones is probably big enough and a good enough defender/rebounder to play the 4 next to Towns or Achiuwa in a lineup. I like the idea of Robinson off the bench as a weapon to defend bigger 5's (we saw how important that was against Embiid, and I think you can use him against Cleveland and a few other teams you might find yourself against in the playoffs). However adding Jones as a backup 3/4 also fills a current gap - and he hit the corner 3 last year, so there's a spacing boost that may come from it as well.

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Oh man. Herb Jones or Trey Murphy would be amazing. Like bonkers amazing. Like pass me a cigarette.

Would love Murphy but he has a year and then QO coming up.
How can we pay him?

Out team is clearly very interested in players under longer contracts.

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Oh man. Herb Jones or Trey Murphy would be amazing. Like bonkers amazing. Like pass me a cigarette.

Would love Murphy but he has a year and then QO coming up.
How can we pay him?

Out team is clearly very interested in players under longer contracts.

I’d be interested in the advanced stats of these guys at playing PF.

I’d rather take a chance on a young, promising 4 or 5. Looks like more of a need than at 3. Looks like we’re in good shape there.

Would also be curious to know if Mitch was ever offered for Kessler.

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you put this in the KAT thread? This team has Warriors offense vibes. Josh is our Draymond and even Josh gets 40% from the corner for his career.

IDK why we would trade Mitch tho

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fishmike wrote:

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you put this in the KAT thread? This team has Warriors offense vibes. Josh is our Draymond and even Josh gets 40% from the corner for his career.

IDK why we would trade Mitch tho

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BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:I don't know why Murphy is the guy mentioned. Herb Jones is the perfect contract match with Mitch. I have not read articles.

Yeah, Jones would seem more likely. I would pass. The Knicks can't afford to get smaller.

He was first team All NBA defense. All NBA defense was Herb Jones and 4 centers. Meaning, he is the best 'qualifying' wing defender in the league last year (I see you OG). 41% 3pt shooting and a 7'1.5" wingspan? Played 76 games last year. Locked in low price contract through 26-27 paying under 15m. Seriously, what more could a person want?

Trey is also a gem, but Jones is already collecting accolades. I would take either and give up additional assets to end up with either. Could see us with Murphy and Nick Richards (CHA) in an absolute coup.

I think both are unlikely TBH. I'm a fan of both, but one of the reasons for the their Brandon Ingram impasse is that they see Trey Murphy as his successor. They're probably not giving him up. Also, as good as Jones is, he's another 3 and D. We could use him. Every team could use him. But our center depth is almost as bad as the Pelicans. Can we really afford to trade big for small?

Brunson 40%(All NBA)/Bridges37% (All Def 1st) / Jones 42% (All Def 1st) / OG 39% (All Def 2nd) / KAT 41.6% (All NBA)

But what other team could put up these kind of accolades for the next 5 years? AND, if you switched to Trey Murphy, you'd have about 7mm of trade exception to take back a center like Nick Richards.

If the Pelicans are engaged with the Knicks, they have to include one of Jones or Murphy to make the numbers work. Meaning, if they picked up the phone they are probably ok with moving Jones and the Knicks are pushing for Murphy.

They should accept Jones and move on.

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

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you put this in the KAT thread? This team has Warriors offense vibes. Josh is our Draymond and even Josh gets 40% from the corner for his career.

IDK why we would trade Mitch tho

The weird part: the Knicks FO wanted to move Mitch/Randle to Minny, not DDV.

I don’t what to make of that.

Cause the numbers work without un****ing the Partizan signing of Daquan Jeffries.

HofstraBBall wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:I don't know why Murphy is the guy mentioned. Herb Jones is the perfect contract match with Mitch. I have not read articles.

Yeah, Jones would seem more likely. I would pass. The Knicks can't afford to get smaller.

He was first team All NBA defense. All NBA defense was Herb Jones and 4 centers. Meaning, he is the best 'qualifying' wing defender in the league last year (I see you OG). 41% 3pt shooting and a 7'1.5" wingspan? Played 76 games last year. Locked in low price contract through 26-27 paying under 15m. Seriously, what more could a person want?

Trey is also a gem, but Jones is already collecting accolades. I would take either and give up additional assets to end up with either. Could see us with Murphy and Nick Richards (CHA) in an absolute coup.

I think both are unlikely TBH. I'm a fan of both, but one of the reasons for the their Brandon Ingram impasse is that they see Trey Murphy as his successor. They're probably not giving him up. Also, as good as Jones is, he's another 3 and D. We could use him. Every team could use him. But our center depth is almost as bad as the Pelicans. Can we really afford to trade big for small?

Brunson 40%(All NBA)/Bridges37% (All Def 1st) / Jones 42% (All Def 1st) / OG 39% (All Def 2nd) / KAT 41.6% (All NBA)

But what other team could put up these kind of accolades for the next 5 years? AND, if you switched to Trey Murphy, you'd have about 7mm of trade exception to take back a center like Nick Richards.

If the Pelicans are engaged with the Knicks, they have to include one of Jones or Murphy to make the numbers work. Meaning, if they picked up the phone they are probably ok with moving Jones and the Knicks are pushing for Murphy.

They should accept Jones and move on.

Either seem like good options considering Motchbis always hurt and KAT no playing the 5.
Murphy is good friends with KB and Josh. There’s that

Yeah, I see Trey as the more athletic player with higher upside. Jones is cost controlled for 3 years. If either are an option, I don't really understand the hesitation.

martin wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

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you put this in the KAT thread? This team has Warriors offense vibes. Josh is our Draymond and even Josh gets 40% from the corner for his career.

IDK why we would trade Mitch tho

The weird part: the Knicks FO wanted to move Mitch/Randle to Minny, not DDV.

I don’t what to make of that.

Cause the numbers work without un****ing the Partizan signing of Daquan Jeffries.

No I meant from a roster construction standpoint.

Knicks would rather move their only C after KAT before a guard where they had tons of overlap.

That’s odd?

My take is that it is just math. Randle + Robinson + Achiuwa fits is $50k over KAT's contract. Achiuwa's contract seems carefully constructed to make the math work on December 15.

The pre-training camp trade barely works if they get the Charlotte sign and trades to align. They still don't have the numbers down and may need to trade Mitch anyway to get the numbers to work. That explains the fingers crossed in Mitch's feeds.