martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Thibs did a great job with managing the minutes today. All rotation players got the correct amount of time at the right time

Minutes police… APPROVED!

Loved how quick Burks got yanked and highly approve of Bogey to bench with Precious return in 2nd half.

I think Bogey has thrown up an air ball scud in 4 straight games - highly alarming to me for such a great scorer. Burks is one of those guys that will always find the most difficult shot.

Hart and Deuce great efforts, Jalen being Jalen, Donte continues to be very sloppy with the ball and thought I-Hart and Sims both very tough solid tonight.

LivingLegend wrote:

martin wrote:So am I

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F-ing PRECIOUS —— we better keep this young man around.

I could see a potential OG/Julius/Precious front line where OG/Precious lock up best 2 front court scorers.

Precious is so good 1 v 1 —- usually stays down, almost always a hand up but under control, great feet / agility and if he get’s beat the ability to quick jump to contest at the rim.

Very timely player —- would be amazing if we could grind this kid into a diamond offensively with the right skill work.

Just realized we could run out Mitch/Precious/OG —- GULP

nycericanguy wrote:Sucks that we traded Grimes and 2 seconds for 2 guys that really are going to struggle to see the court. Bogs is just really bad on D, and Burks has been awful on both ends.

Maybe at full strength things change, but we had a sniper in the mold of Bogs who never played due to his defense so I was always iffy on bringing in another non defender who despite the scoring always has a pretty bad net rating.

Grimes + a lil more should have been done for DJM.

In all honesty I wish we could just undo all the trades.

With due respect to your opinion - I brought up on another thread that a big payoff of the Detroit trade is the emergence of Deuce, much as the Toronto trade seemed to free the chemistry (and up the defense and ball movement) pre injuries. Other than that I would say let’s see what happens when people come back. It may end up regretful that our youth was jettisoned but in my eyes it may very well still pay off and was worth the risk. Plus who knows how it all ends up cap wise in coming seasons.

LivingLegend wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

martin wrote:So am I

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F-ing PRECIOUS —— we better keep this young man around.

I could see a potential OG/Julius/Precious front line where OG/Precious lock up best 2 front court scorers.

Precious is so good 1 v 1 —- usually stays down, almost always a hand up but under control, great feet / agility and if he get’s beat the ability to quick jump to contest at the rim.

Very timely player —- would be amazing if we could grind this kid into a diamond offensively with the right skill work.

Just realized we could run out Mitch/Precious/OG —- GULP

All NBA Defensive lineup - Mitch, Precious, OG, Deuce, JHart

nycericanguy wrote:it's kind of crazy how Miles has become a reliable offensive player seemingly out of nowhere. 13 & 5 the last 5 games and he's been great from 3, even creating some of his own looks. Kind of reminds me of last year where things just clicked for IQ and he went from sub 40% shooter to a very efficient player.

RJ seems to be going through the same in TOR, all of a sudden he's 9 for 16 every night and 40% from 3.

He’s still only 23 years old.

      EAST             W    L     PCT     GB   STRK    L10     HOME    AWAY     PPG    OPPG   DIFF
      --------        --   --   -----   ----   ----   ----    -----   -----   -----   -----   ----
1     Boston          48   14   0.774      -     L2    8-2     29-3   19-11   120.8   109.9   10.9   
2     Cleveland       41   22   0.651    7.5     W1    5-5    22-11   19-11   114.0   109.4    4.6   
3     Milwaukee       41   23   0.641      8     L2    6-4     25-7   16-16   120.9   117.1    3.8   
4     New York        37   26   0.587   11.5     W1    4-6    21-12   16-14   113.0   109.3    3.7   
5     Orlando         37   27   0.578     12     L1    8-2     21-8   16-19   110.9   109.4    1.5   
6     Miami           35   28   0.556   13.5     L2    7-3    17-13   18-15   110.5   109.9    0.6   
7     Philadelphia    35   28   0.556   13.5     L3    3-7    19-15   16-13   116.5   113.6    2.9   
8     Indiana         35   29   0.547     14     L1    5-5    20-13   15-16   123.3   121.8    1.5   
9     Chicago         31   32   0.492   17.5     W3    6-4    16-15   15-17   112.0   113.3   -1.3   
10    Atlanta         29   34    0.46   19.5     W3    5-5    16-16   13-18   119.9   121.5   -1.6   
11    Brooklyn        25   38   0.397   23.5     L1    4-6    16-18    9-20   112.0   114.1   -2.1   
12    Toronto         23   40   0.365   25.5     L2    4-6    13-19   10-21   114.1   118.0   -3.9   
13    Charlotte       15   48   0.238   33.5     L6    3-7     8-23    7-25   107.2   117.6  -10.4   
14    Detroit         10   52   0.161     38     W1    2-8     5-25    5-27   112.2   120.8   -8.6   
15    Washington      10   53   0.159   38.5     W1    1-9     4-26    6-27   114.5   124.2   -9.7   
      WEST             W    L     PCT     GB   STRK    L10     HOME    AWAY     PPG    OPPG   DIFF
      --------        --   --   -----   ----   ----   ----    -----   -----   -----   -----   ----
1     Oklahoma City   44   19   0.698      -     W2    8-2     25-6   19-13   120.8   113.2    7.6   
2     Minnesota       44   20   0.688    0.5     L1    6-4     23-8   21-12   113.2   106.6    6.6   
3     Denver          43   20   0.683      1     W1    7-3     25-6   18-14   114.4   110.4    4.0   
4     Los Angeles     40   21   0.656      3     W1    5-5     21-8   19-13   117.2   112.6    4.6   
5     New Orleans     38   25   0.603      6     W3    7-3    18-12   20-13   116.4   111.2    5.2   
6     Phoenix         37   26   0.587      7     W2    6-4    21-13   16-13   117.1   114.3    2.8   
7     Sacramento      36   26   0.581    7.5     W2    6-4    17-11   19-15   118.5   118.0    0.5   
8     Dallas          35   28   0.556      9     W1    5-5    19-15   16-13   118.7   118.1    0.6   
9     Los Angeles     35   30   0.538     10     W1    6-4    23-11   12-19   117.2   117.7   -0.5   
10    Golden State    33   29   0.532   10.5     L1    7-3    17-16   16-13   118.7   116.9    1.8   
11    Houston         28   35   0.444     16     W1    4-6    21-11    7-24   113.0   112.8    0.2   
12    Utah            28   35   0.444     16     L1    2-8    19-12    9-23   117.7   120.4   -2.7   
13    Memphis         22   42   0.344   22.5     L1    4-6     7-25   15-17   106.0   112.3   -6.3   
14    Portland        17   45   0.274   26.5     L3    2-8     9-22    8-23   107.8   116.0   -8.2   
15    San Antonio     13   50   0.206     31     L2    3-7     7-21    6-29   112.4   120.4   -8.0   

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings

Miles might not crack the playoff rotation, but even if he doesn't, he proved he can be part of the Knicks future. He is confident, plays tough, hits shots, doesn't complain, and gets it done next man up style. His improvement since the trade, makes me feel if we give JB rest in a playoff game, we don't blow the game in 5 minutes like last year. The 2nd rd picks mean nothing to me with all our 1sts. Grimes without NY/Thibs pressure on him, has been terrible and again, hurt on and off for the Pistons, worse than Burks.

Since the trade, Grimes has played 4 games, Bogs 10 Burks 11, availability, especially short-handed, counts. Those 4 games, FG 25% 3PT 21%. Even IMO a maybe washed Burks is 32% & 29%. I hope Burks isn't washed, maybe some is pressure in games that now matter, but his release seems off and his few penetrating drives to the rim are not with confidence. Flat and short on his shots, conditioning? Bogs isn't here for D when the team is healthy, and unlike Fournier, he can create his own shot. Regardless, I feel there is nothing to be sorry about in that trade.

Lastly, DJM wasn't traded for a reason, ATL probably and rightfully so, wanted too much. Grimes/Fournier weren't getting that trade done. Since the Raptors trade, despite a ridiculous amount of injuries, the Knicks pushed their 54% winning to 64%, Toronto 36% to 37%. I'd say it was all win, even with injuries. In Precious we trust. Lets go Knicks!

KnickDanger wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:Sucks that we traded Grimes and 2 seconds for 2 guys that really are going to struggle to see the court. Bogs is just really bad on D, and Burks has been awful on both ends.

Maybe at full strength things change, but we had a sniper in the mold of Bogs who never played due to his defense so I was always iffy on bringing in another non defender who despite the scoring always has a pretty bad net rating.

Grimes + a lil more should have been done for DJM.

In all honesty I wish we could just undo all the trades.

With due respect to your opinion - I brought up on another thread that a big payoff of the Detroit trade is the emergence of Deuce, much as the Toronto trade seemed to free the chemistry (and up the defense and ball movement) pre injuries. Other than that I would say let’s see what happens when people come back. It may end up regretful that our youth was jettisoned but in my eyes it may very well still pay off and was worth the risk. Plus who knows how it all ends up cap wise in coming seasons.

I think some of these guys - when Randle and Anunoby come back, are gonna make more sense.

I do wish we played Bogs more with Brunson - this stretch has had some long stretches of bad offense and some bad starts to games/halves that I think could have been better with 2 scorers on the floor.

I love Donte, but when asked to create his own O he has been erratic. He gets blocked at the rim a lot and then he had fallen back on shooting 15 3's and making 5 too often. When Randle is back on the floor his efficiency will come back up.

I am happy we kept Deuce over Grimes as well. Grimes has actually continued to miss games and has had some durability issues since he has been in the league. But there is also some confidence/swagger difference. Deuce has it this year and Grimes doesn't. I wish Deuce was taller, but look at how he played Garland last week. He did well against Maxey. Id love to see him disrupt Haliburton. This will come in handy depending on whom we play in the playoffs. What we lost in Grimes wing D, we already made up for with OG.

VDesai wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

martin wrote:So am I

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/benstiller/status/1766295341500944819

F-ing PRECIOUS —— we better keep this young man around.

I could see a potential OG/Julius/Precious front line where OG/Precious lock up best 2 front court scorers.

Precious is so good 1 v 1 —- usually stays down, almost always a hand up but under control, great feet / agility and if he get’s beat the ability to quick jump to contest at the rim.

Very timely player —- would be amazing if we could grind this kid into a diamond offensively with the right skill work.

Just realized we could run out Mitch/Precious/OG —- GULP

All NBA Defensive lineup - Mitch, Precious, OG, Deuce, JHart

Hartenstein actually might be the best defensive player on the team. He is stout as heck at the rim and is versatile. Aside from missing OG and Randle, we have missed Hartenstein for a lot of this stretch or he has been on a minutes count. If he is healthy he is an anchor on D and a heavy impact player in Thibs defensive scheme.

I Hart has been great and is a better all around player than Mitch. However IMO I think Mitch when healthy is better as a defender and rim protector. Either way, can't go wrong and when both back to full health....team will be better for it.

Nalod wrote:

Rookie wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:it's kind of crazy how Miles has become a reliable offensive player seemingly out of nowhere. 13 & 5 the last 5 games and he's been great from 3, even creating some of his own looks. Kind of reminds me of last year where things just clicked for IQ and he went from sub 40% shooter to a very efficient player.

RJ seems to be going through the same in TOR, all of a sudden he's 9 for 16 every night and 40% from 3.

He’s still only 23 years old.

RJ is peter pan. He will never get old!

I was referring to Miles. Side note: I could see a path to IQ finding his way back to the Knicks. We’ll see if Toronto will step up and offer the 30M he wants. I believe he is a kid who will bet on himself if he has to. If he signs the QO he will be a FA in the summer of 2025