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TPercy
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The Future is Bright!
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
![]() Welpee wrote:TPercy wrote:I don't trust Butler. He may be giving RJ bad advice to give himself an edge. lol!MaTT4281 wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Haha good thing he's playing well The Future is Bright!
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joec32033
Posts: 30606 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #583 USA |
![]() TPercy wrote:Welpee wrote:TPercy wrote:I don't trust Butler. He may be giving RJ bad advice to give himself an edge. lol!MaTT4281 wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: A few weeks ago, that drive in the lane and 1 off that pass from Randle doesn't go in because he wouldn't have went up strong enough and would have played for the foul. ~You can't run from who you are.~
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42731 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
![]() https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/3/15/22330592/rj-barrett-new-york-knicks
But comparison is the thief of joy, and Barrett’s position in the league deserves consideration on its own merits. Fresh off a career-high 32 points in New York’s win over Oklahoma City on Saturday, he’s on pace to be just the sixth NBA player ever to average at least 18 points, six rebounds, and three assists per 36 minutes before his age-21 campaign; before this season, only LeBron James, Chris Webber, and Luka Doncic had done it. He has improved in virtually every facet of the game—finishing in the paint, knocking down jumpers and free throws, handling the ball, facilitating offense, defending on the perimeter—and earned a permanent-marker spot in Tom Thibodeau’s starting lineup, logging the second-most minutes on the Knicks behind only All-Star Julius Randle. Wow |
Nalod
Posts: 71108 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() GustavBahler wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/3/15/22330592/rj-barrett-new-york-knicksBut comparison is the thief of joy, and Barrett’s position in the league deserves consideration on its own merits. Fresh off a career-high 32 points in New York’s win over Oklahoma City on Saturday, he’s on pace to be just the sixth NBA player ever to average at least 18 points, six rebounds, and three assists per 36 minutes before his age-21 campaign; before this season, only LeBron James, Chris Webber, and Luka Doncic had done it. He has improved in virtually every facet of the game—finishing in the paint, knocking down jumpers and free throws, handling the ball, facilitating offense, defending on the perimeter—and earned a permanent-marker spot in Tom Thibodeau’s starting lineup, logging the second-most minutes on the Knicks behind only All-Star Julius Randle. rare air...... |
technomaster
Posts: 23347 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/30/2003 Member: #426 USA |
![]() Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/3/15/22330592/rj-barrett-new-york-knicksBut comparison is the thief of joy, and Barrett’s position in the league deserves consideration on its own merits. Fresh off a career-high 32 points in New York’s win over Oklahoma City on Saturday, he’s on pace to be just the sixth NBA player ever to average at least 18 points, six rebounds, and three assists per 36 minutes before his age-21 campaign; before this season, only LeBron James, Chris Webber, and Luka Doncic had done it. He has improved in virtually every facet of the game—finishing in the paint, knocking down jumpers and free throws, handling the ball, facilitating offense, defending on the perimeter—and earned a permanent-marker spot in Tom Thibodeau’s starting lineup, logging the second-most minutes on the Knicks behind only All-Star Julius Randle. Hmm. Weird cherry picking stat and writing. He’d be the 6th? If I’m reading this correctly, he’s on pace to be in a 3 way tie for the 4th, 5th, and 6th players to achieve this arbitrary stat line. Zion and Lamelo Ball are the other 2 players doing it this season. Given that the NBA season typically ends in June (ie half the year), this age 21 achievement is heavily biased in favor of players born in July or later - they potentially get an extra year to crack this threshold. For what it’s worth, Tyler Herro is just outside the threshold - this is classified as his age 21 season (turned 21 in January) and his scoring is just under the 18 per 36 threshold (he’s averaging 17.5 per 36)at the moment. (Just being technical) “That was two, two from the heart.” - John Starks
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martin
Posts: 76107 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
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Panos
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![]() martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: That DSjr is only 3 spots down from RJ tells you everything you need to know about that list. |
GustavBahler
Posts: 42731 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
![]() technomaster wrote:Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/3/15/22330592/rj-barrett-new-york-knicksBut comparison is the thief of joy, and Barrett’s position in the league deserves consideration on its own merits. Fresh off a career-high 32 points in New York’s win over Oklahoma City on Saturday, he’s on pace to be just the sixth NBA player ever to average at least 18 points, six rebounds, and three assists per 36 minutes before his age-21 campaign; before this season, only LeBron James, Chris Webber, and Luka Doncic had done it. He has improved in virtually every facet of the game—finishing in the paint, knocking down jumpers and free throws, handling the ball, facilitating offense, defending on the perimeter—and earned a permanent-marker spot in Tom Thibodeau’s starting lineup, logging the second-most minutes on the Knicks behind only All-Star Julius Randle. Master of techno and buzzkill! Seriously, Im guessing that many good to great players came close to this stat (but no cigar). Not just lately. Dont need data to see that RJ is something special. Generational special. 20 and already can easily score on almost anyone in the league. We're used to high flyers having this kind of an impact on a game. And RJ is only getting started. |
martin
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martin
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martin
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BigDaddyG
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![]() martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Why are we comparing RJ to scrubs? It's like comparing Julius Randle to Aaron Gordon or IQ to Payton Pritchard. We should be comparing RJ to heavy hitters like LeBron. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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smackeddog
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![]() martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I never liked Herro, even when all the writers were busting a nut over him during the bubble. Just seems like a streaky shooter to me- a Starks calibre player |
Knixkik
Posts: 35423 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
![]() smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I like Herro and think he can sort of end up like a lesser Beal type, but i wonder what has happened to him this year. He put placed out of position at PG and sort of lost his entire rhythm. |
Welpee
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![]() Panos wrote:Yeah, that chart seems VERY bogus. What metric indicates Knox improved in any way, shape or form from his rookie year to his sophomore season?martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: |
mikesknicks
Posts: 20755 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/17/2004 Member: #684 USA |
![]() smackeddog wrote:martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Wait a minute! What are you trying to say about one of my favorite knick players John Starks!!! In the Knick of time.
Knickal for Your thoughts.
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technomaster
Posts: 23347 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/30/2003 Member: #426 USA |
![]() Welpee wrote:Panos wrote:<snip>Yeah, that chart seems VERY bogus. What metric indicates Knox improved in any way, shape or form from his rookie year to his sophomore season? If anyone wants to try to figure out how RAPTOR works... just by looking at the list, it seems like a lot of garbage to me. :p “That was two, two from the heart.” - John Starks
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
![]() technomaster wrote:Welpee wrote:Panos wrote:<snip>Yeah, that chart seems VERY bogus. What metric indicates Knox improved in any way, shape or form from his rookie year to his sophomore season? I like RAPTOR. Its not perfect but it definitely does a lot to take some of the nuances of the game into account. Like any wins based metric, its important to use multiple( RAPTOR, WAR, VORP, WS48, LEBRON) to get a more accurate picture. I don't see how DSJ or Knox are that big of holes to the list. Knox and DSJ were still awful players per the metric but their weaknesses weren't as bad exposed(probably because they weren't playing as much). The Future is Bright!
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