fishmike wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

technomaster wrote:Obviously, we need to look at where we are as a team to determine what to do with Randle. With the emergence of Rivers and Quickley, PG may be far less of a need than originally thought.

The ideal player to add to the Knicks team is Kawhi Leonard - a 29 year old 2-way wing that does a lot of things at an elite level. But unless he goes to Ballmer and says he wants out and wants to specifically go to the Knicks, I don't think he'll ever end up here.

Randle is pretty much the ideal age (26) for a young superstar addition and for now, is producing like a $40m max-type player. We're very fortunate to have him at 2 years at basically half that price. He may indeed not be a true #1 option, but I don't see where we find a clear upgrade in the 25-30 age range. You can't really go much older than that, because the rest of the team is basically made of 20-22 year olds that are still finding their games.

The Knicks imho could use a better 3&D SF and PG - Basically we see opportunity for much better play from Bullock/Payton's minutes. I think both of them have fine contracts for what they give - at least we're not overpaying them.

Quickley and Rivers might already be the guys that take over those minutes. The Knicks would have to be comfortable with RJ taking the physical punishment guarding somewhat bigger players at SF.

If we're looking at a more traditional lineup, we probably can get improve at PG with either Quickley/Rivers getting the bulk of the minutes running point, and Frank/Knox/Obi stepping up.

I think what we will probably end up seeing is Randle sticking with the Knicks and some of our young assets moving on for mild upgrades. Plus we have 2 first rounders coming next year.

If Randle stays close to his current output and Mitch can develop any kind of consistent mid-range game, and without any significant injuries, the team can be pretty damn good even without other major additions.

I still think we can Use a stretch big and lonzo ball

Lonzo Ball is trash

I wouldn't call him trash, but I'd rather play IQ than pay a guard of Lonzo's caliber and legitimate stretch center don't grow on trees. I was hoping Omari could fill the niche. Who knows, he still might.

Yeah Lonzo isn’t trash by any means, but I don’t think he moves the needle

you guys watch him much? For a PG taken 2nd in the draft he's an absolute bust. He's a role player. Big distributing PG who plays good defense and thats it. Totally unreliable shooter, not a good offensive player and doesnt move the needle AT ALL. He's the last guy you target to bring in here. What does Lonzo do that says "man we should sign that guy" ????

He's playing slightly above replacement level now and will probably bounce back after a couple of decent games. I agree though, don't want to pay him.

martin wrote:

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Question is how so many did not see this as a possibility prior to the season. Despite Randle almost averaging a double double last year. A double double his first full year with LA. And three years in between needing 1.5 to 2 more rebounds a game to do so. Not to mention he was only 25 or under when he did so. Keep saying these are the type of players we need to sign. Young players coming of rookie deals or tweener first/second deals who are in that 25 to 28 year range. Ones who have produced but were not primary options on other teams due to so called star or veteran players. Like Rivers and Burks for that reason. Credit to Perry

BigDaddyG wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/TommyBeer/status/1347192413060804608

Question is how so many did not see this as a possibility prior to the season. Despite Randle almost averaging a double double last year. A double double his first full year with LA. And three years in between needing 1.5 to 2 more rebounds a game to do so. Not to mention he was only 25 or under when he did so. Keep saying these are the type of players we need to sign. Young players coming of rookie deals or tweener first/second deals who are in that 25 to 28 year range. Ones who have produced but were not primary options on other teams due to so called star or veteran players. Like Rivers and Burks for that reason. Credit to Perry

I don't think people didn't see the possibility. Honestly, his stats are inflated from last year due to the minutes. Outside of assist and turnovers, he's about the same. The surpris is that he's putting up these numbers in a way that supports meaningful basketball.

Inflated? All five years? Like I said, many slept on his production and his potential at just 25.

TPercy wrote:
Yeah you are definitely a troll.

Oh, c’mon, why a troll? Randle is only 8 months older than KP, so it is not such a bad trade proposition for Dallas.

ESOMKnicks wrote:With Randle’s trade value sky high, we have a great chance of trading him. After last nights game, there might be a chance that Dallas would give us KP back for their hometown boy Randle and their first rounders that we own. Would be a great chance for the Knicks to at least partially undo the tremendous damage wrought by Mills when he let KP get away. Ready to welcome KP back with open arms, we have really missed him.

SMH. I thought I saw it all until I read this post.

What is Randles value, prospects, and as a tradable asset if it come to that. We get to a crossroad and an opportunity arises how “liquid” is he and that deal? I know we all enthralled at the moment but there is an unknown path ahead. Gott to keep options open. Not my job to stay up at night and ponder what to do or pretend I know the best path. In any event we need to secure him as an asset either on the court or for trade.

ESOMKnicks wrote:

TPercy wrote:
Yeah you are definitely a troll.

Oh, c’mon, why a troll? Randle is only 8 months older than KP, so it is not such a bad trade proposition for Dallas.

Are you being serious? because if you are, Randle is 2x the player KP is and I’m not exaggerating. Randle does everything KP does at a much higher level and he’s on a much better contract. Unless they giving us Luka then no.

TPercy wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Anything to get rid of spinover is good with me

oh yeah

Oh cmon most of us had good reason at the time to get rid of him