BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think the bottom line is that I personally feel Wiseman will be an nba franchise player. You win in the nba w franchise players. Just because we have Robinson won’t change my thinking. I always think what will win big. A franchise big player sets the foundation for 10-13 years. He’s got every physical measurable. He’s a hard worker. He’s a smart kid. Every team needs 2-3 big players surrounded by perimeter players. But the big thing for me is Wiseman is a franchise type player and the other guys are very good to good nba players.

I think those are his biggest question marks.

I think I read he was a top student in his class abd speaks fluent Mandarin Chinese. I would call that pretty smart.
Also I’ve followed him— he’s worked almost every day training for the nba since removal from Memphis— going from 235-254Pd

How does that have anything to do with BBIQ?

Well usually someone says smart it’s about their individual intelligence? But basketball iq? Where is one sign that it’s poor?

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IDK BRIGGS, what do you see?

I see a guy who could have taken 1 dribble and had pretty much an open pathway to dunk. OR he could have just taken the open 8-10 foot jumpshot over the 6'5" dude that's barely in front of him.

Or he could have done the fadeaway turnaround jumpshot for no apparent reason.

BBIQ.

Or we can ogle some high school scouting vids

Why focused on 1 t around j? I actually like that he took it— and I like that he can go in and out. Big big problem with Robinson so far is limitation. I don’t see limitation with Wiseman.

BRIGGS: He's a smart kid.
martin: I don't think we know about his BBIQ
BRIGGS: he speaks fluent Mandarin
martin: What's that got to do with anything? This is basketball, so BBIQ is important
BRIGGS: He's smart. But basketball iq? Where is one sign that it’s poor?
martin: Here's Wiseman making a really bad decision, ie BBIQ

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BRIGGS: I like that he makes poor decisions
martin: ...........

BRIGGS man, your scouting here pretty much consists of having a man-crush on the dudes physique and then a "lalalalalalalala I don't see anything else" mentality

It's why Hassan Whiteside was given up by Miami and is bench riding now that Nurkic is healthy. Same reason Woods won't be as good as you think.

BBIQ

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think the bottom line is that I personally feel Wiseman will be an nba franchise player. You win in the nba w franchise players. Just because we have Robinson won’t change my thinking. I always think what will win big. A franchise big player sets the foundation for 10-13 years. He’s got every physical measurable. He’s a hard worker. He’s a smart kid. Every team needs 2-3 big players surrounded by perimeter players. But the big thing for me is Wiseman is a franchise type player and the other guys are very good to good nba players.

I think those are his biggest question marks.

I think I read he was a top student in his class abd speaks fluent Mandarin Chinese. I would call that pretty smart.
Also I’ve followed him— he’s worked almost every day training for the nba since removal from Memphis— going from 235-254Pd

How does that have anything to do with BBIQ?

Well usually someone says smart it’s about their individual intelligence? But basketball iq? Where is one sign that it’s poor?

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/SKPearlman/status/1279514946481672194

IDK BRIGGS, what do you see?

I see a guy who could have taken 1 dribble and had pretty much an open pathway to dunk. OR he could have just taken the open 8-10 foot jumpshot over the 6'5" dude that's barely in front of him.

Or he could have done the fadeaway turnaround jumpshot for no apparent reason.

BBIQ.

Or we can ogle some high school scouting vids

Why focused on 1 t around j? I actually like that he took it— and I like that he can go in and out. Big big problem with Robinson so far is limitation. I don’t see limitation with Wiseman.

BRIGGS: He's a smart kid.
martin: I don't think we know about his BBIQ
BRIGGS: he speaks fluent Mandarin
martin: What's that got to do with anything? This is basketball, so BBIQ is important
BRIGGS: He's smart. But basketball iq? Where is one sign that it’s poor?
martin: Here's Wiseman making a really bad decision, ie BBIQ

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/SKPearlman/status/1279514946481672194

BRIGGS: I like that he makes poor decisions
martin: ...........

BRIGGS man, your scouting here pretty much consists of having a man-crush on the dudes physique and then a "lalalalalalalala I don't see anything else" mentality

It's why Hassan Whiteside was given up by Miami and is bench riding now that Nurkic is healthy. Same reason Woods won't be as good as you think.

BBIQ

Don’t bet against this one martin/- he’s gonna be great.

EwingsGlass wrote:The more I see of Devin Vassel, the more I think the Knicks should maneuver to get him -- whether by trading down or just taking him early. I like him a bit more than Nesmith. If Hallburton is off the board at 7, I am probably looking for Vassel.

I’m still keeping my eye on Cole Anthony. He was in a bad situation but has big potential and can really shoot it. High risk/reward pick.

BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:The more I see of Devin Vassel, the more I think the Knicks should maneuver to get him -- whether by trading down or just taking him early. I like him a bit more than Nesmith. If Hallburton is off the board at 7, I am probably looking for Vassel.

I'm starting to feel the same about Okoro. I have him and Cassel ahead of Nesmith.

I switched from Okoro to Vassell based solely on shooting. Knicks really need a 3/D. Spread the floor. Okoro will likely be the better defender over time, but I wonder what happens to Vassell when he gets his man body.

smackeddog wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:The more I see of Devin Vassel, the more I think the Knicks should maneuver to get him -- whether by trading down or just taking him early. I like him a bit more than Nesmith. If Hallburton is off the board at 7, I am probably looking for Vassel.

I’m still keeping my eye on Cole Anthony. He was in a bad situation but has big potential and can really shoot it. High risk/reward pick.

I'm starting to prefer Tyrese Maxey over Cole, but I'm put off both due to the presence of RJ

Cole is a good enough shooter to be a fit with RJ.

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Knixkik wrote:
Cole is a good enough shooter to be a fit with RJ.

Not terribly excited about Cole Anthony. An SG in PG's body, don't work for me. If he were either 6'5", or a better passer, or slipped all the way to our Clippers pick, that'd be a different story.

Most modern day PG's are shooting guards in pg's body. From Kyrie to Lillard. It's the way the game is played now. Your pg or lead guard has to be able to create offense for himself and it's bonus if he can play off the ball some, as well. Cole Anthony is pretty good at coming off screens, catching and shooting.

fishmike wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

TLover wrote:Devon Vassel.. we have not had a legit true small forward since Bernard King.

I think most people figure RJ is really a SF.

no way. He's a SG and thats where his best value will be

Is there really a difference? Wings are really interchangeable these days. RJ should play wherever he has the match up advantage on a given night.

Knixkik wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:The more I see of Devin Vassel, the more I think the Knicks should maneuver to get him -- whether by trading down or just taking him early. I like him a bit more than Nesmith. If Hallburton is off the board at 7, I am probably looking for Vassel.

I’m still keeping my eye on Cole Anthony. He was in a bad situation but has big potential and can really shoot it. High risk/reward pick.

I'm starting to prefer Tyrese Maxey over Cole, but I'm put off both due to the presence of RJ

Cole is a good enough shooter to be a fit with RJ.

That's a head scratcher. In his one year at the collegiate level, he was a below average shooter.

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:The more I see of Devin Vassel, the more I think the Knicks should maneuver to get him -- whether by trading down or just taking him early. I like him a bit more than Nesmith. If Hallburton is off the board at 7, I am probably looking for Vassel.

I’m still keeping my eye on Cole Anthony. He was in a bad situation but has big potential and can really shoot it. High risk/reward pick.

I'm starting to prefer Tyrese Maxey over Cole, but I'm put off both due to the presence of RJ

Cole is a good enough shooter to be a fit with RJ.

That's a head scratcher. In his one year at the collegiate level, he was a below average shooter.

Maxey's 3pt shooting was worse, but his FT shooting was better (85%), so maybe there's promise he can fix that. KP will have the inside scoop.