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BigDaddyG
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2/7/2020  11:48 AM
TPercy wrote:I honestly believe if Miller was HC we have 4-6 more wins than we do now and we are two games out the playoffs. Remarkable how **** Fizdale was and how Mills actually believed in him.

I agree. It would also means Mills remained and we're looking at a starting lineup of Drummond, Morris, Bullock, Payton and D'Angelo Russell.

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2/7/2020  11:52 AM
TPercy wrote:I honestly believe if Miller was HC we have 4-6 more wins than we do now and we are two games out the playoffs. Remarkable how **** Fizdale was and how Mills actually believed in him.
well to be fair Miller has a track record with some coaching chops. Fizdale is a rah-rah motivator type who was probably good as an assistant and got exposed when trying to run a team.
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2/7/2020  12:45 PM
Just ugh

Even with the trade of leading-scorer Marcus Morris, Kevin Knox couldn’t crack the starting lineup. The 2018 lottery pick responded by weakening his case.

Coming off a 12-point effort in Monday’s overtime win over the Cavaliers — breaking a stretch of nine straight games scoring in single-digits — Knox missed his five shots and finished scoreless. The 20-year-old, who averaged 12.8 points as a rookie, has now scored two points or fewer in four of his past six games, and has hit one field goal or fewer in seven of his past nine games.

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2/7/2020  12:59 PM
martin wrote:Just ugh

Even with the trade of leading-scorer Marcus Morris, Kevin Knox couldn’t crack the starting lineup. The 2018 lottery pick responded by weakening his case.

Coming off a 12-point effort in Monday’s overtime win over the Cavaliers — breaking a stretch of nine straight games scoring in single-digits — Knox missed his five shots and finished scoreless. The 20-year-old, who averaged 12.8 points as a rookie, has now scored two points or fewer in four of his past six games, and has hit one field goal or fewer in seven of his past nine games.


i think removing Marcus will add some clarity to the rotations, and i am hopeful about KK putting it all together. Frank too

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2/7/2020  1:06 PM
"Elfrid Payton is really kinda garbage"


BS!

"If MIller was coach we would have 4-6 more wins"

How about if Payton didn't miss 17 games with injury?


Miller's success co-incides with Payton's return.


Payton gets no respect here. I'm going to keep giving it to him.

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2/7/2020  2:32 PM
Sambakick wrote:"Elfrid Payton is really kinda garbage"


BS!

"If MIller was coach we would have 4-6 more wins"

How about if Payton didn't miss 17 games with injury?


Miller's success co-incides with Payton's return.


Payton gets no respect here. I'm going to keep giving it to him.

He plays hard and can def do some things... we saw a lot of that last season also. Unfortunately the 2 knocks on his game that hold him down are he cant stay healthy and he cant shoot. He's been good for us. There is nothing not to like, and he wouldnt be the first PG to be a late bloomer and show another level at 25 years old. Good price tag.

The question with Elf is how good and how effective of an NBA player can he be? The answer appears to be pretty average at best. If you have some other good parts Elf can play a role for you, like Felton did when we had Melo/Chandler playing at AS levels.

I def think not having him early hurt, especially as poorly as the other PGs were playing

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2/7/2020  3:27 PM
fishmike wrote:
TPercy wrote:I honestly believe if Miller was HC we have 4-6 more wins than we do now and we are two games out the playoffs. Remarkable how **** Fizdale was and how Mills actually believed in him.
well to be fair Miller has a track record with some coaching chops. Fizdale is a rah-rah motivator type who was probably good as an assistant and got exposed when trying to run a team.

To be even more fair...Fiz didn't have a healthy PG on the team.

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2/7/2020  3:36 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
TPercy wrote:I honestly believe if Miller was HC we have 4-6 more wins than we do now and we are two games out the playoffs. Remarkable how **** Fizdale was and how Mills actually believed in him.
well to be fair Miller has a track record with some coaching chops. Fizdale is a rah-rah motivator type who was probably good as an assistant and got exposed when trying to run a team.

To be even more fair...Fiz didn't have a healthy PG on the team.


To be even fairer, Fiz thought Knoz was an answer at SG and Trier should get live game minutes as starting PG.
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2/7/2020  3:43 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
TPercy wrote:I honestly believe if Miller was HC we have 4-6 more wins than we do now and we are two games out the playoffs. Remarkable how **** Fizdale was and how Mills actually believed in him.
well to be fair Miller has a track record with some coaching chops. Fizdale is a rah-rah motivator type who was probably good as an assistant and got exposed when trying to run a team.

To be even more fair...Fiz didn't have a healthy PG on the team.


To be even fairer, Fiz thought Knoz was an answer at SG and Trier should get live game minutes as starting PG.
and starting RJ at PG as well. My god he was bad
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2/7/2020  3:47 PM
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
TPercy wrote:I honestly believe if Miller was HC we have 4-6 more wins than we do now and we are two games out the playoffs. Remarkable how **** Fizdale was and how Mills actually believed in him.
well to be fair Miller has a track record with some coaching chops. Fizdale is a rah-rah motivator type who was probably good as an assistant and got exposed when trying to run a team.

To be even more fair...Fiz didn't have a healthy PG on the team.


To be even fairer, Fiz thought Knoz was an answer at SG and Trier should get live game minutes as starting PG.
and starting RJ at PG as well. My god he was bad

Exactly - when Fizdale had Payton, he didn't start him. Was he blind in practice? Did he not see the talent? It was only when
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2/7/2020  4:53 PM
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
TPercy wrote:I honestly believe if Miller was HC we have 4-6 more wins than we do now and we are two games out the playoffs. Remarkable how **** Fizdale was and how Mills actually believed in him.
well to be fair Miller has a track record with some coaching chops. Fizdale is a rah-rah motivator type who was probably good as an assistant and got exposed when trying to run a team.

To be even more fair...Fiz didn't have a healthy PG on the team.


To be even fairer, Fiz thought Knoz was an answer at SG and Trier should get live game minutes as starting PG.
and starting RJ at PG as well. My god he was bad

Exactly - when Fizdale had Payton, he didn't start him. Was he blind in practice? Did he not see the talent? It was only when

i think FIzz thought RJ and Trier would replicate in some strange way Lebron and Wade -- non-pg who could handle the ball

bold experiment but dumb

i am high on RJ and who knows whether he can do this in future but not day 1 of NBA

when he hits FTs he will be dynamite because it will encourage him that much more ot attack the rim

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2/7/2020  6:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/7/2020  9:53 PM
We're three "ifs" IMO from being a playoff team at this point. IF

-- Miller had been our coach from the beginning. Solid guy, gets the most out of his talent, fundamentally sound. (four additional wins maybe)

-- Payton hadn't missed a bunch of games. Yeah, I know Fizdale didn't have Payton but, given Fizdale's cluelessness, he wouldn't have maximized Payton's talents anyway (three more wins).

-- We weren't dog [poop] at the free throw line. How many games have we shot at or below 60% and went on to lose the game by a possession or two? I haven't researched it but I'd guess there are more than a couple of games we'd have won if we'd have shot the league's free throw average percentage. One of Clyde's favorite points is that you can make yourself at least a 75% FT shooter if you're willing to give it the effort.

I get that conjecture is useless but maybe, just maybe, there are a few slivers of light in an otherwise dismal season and, more importantly, legitimate hope that we can turn the corner.

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2/8/2020  10:24 AM
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
TPercy wrote:I honestly believe if Miller was HC we have 4-6 more wins than we do now and we are two games out the playoffs. Remarkable how **** Fizdale was and how Mills actually believed in him.
well to be fair Miller has a track record with some coaching chops. Fizdale is a rah-rah motivator type who was probably good as an assistant and got exposed when trying to run a team.

To be even more fair...Fiz didn't have a healthy PG on the team.


To be even fairer, Fiz thought Knoz was an answer at SG and Trier should get live game minutes as starting PG.
and starting RJ at PG as well. My god he was bad

Exactly - when Fizdale had Payton, he didn't start him. Was he blind in practice? Did he not see the talent? It was only when

Outside of game 1, Payton was the starter until he got hurt.

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