Sambakick wrote:fishmike wrote:Sambakick wrote:fishmike wrote:Sambakick wrote:fwk00 wrote:Sambakick wrote:Frank is what a PG with no court vision/low BBall IQ looks like.
Frank had a bad game. It happens and you'd know that if you weren't an obvious hater.
Frank's good games look like bad games. I was a Frank booster ... until this season. I made the claim that the organization did Frank wrong his first couple seasons. But now I can see that he just doesn't have what a guy picked that high should have. He is like one of Dorothy's companions in the wizard of oz looking for a quality that he doesn't possess.
you must really hate Dennis Smith
I like Payton. I don't like Frank or DSJ. I think we are still looking for our long-term solution at PG.
Frank has shown he knows how to play right but never does. DS has shown he has no clue what good play but once in a blue moon you get lucky. Payton is the best choice of a broken group and his best skills are utterly average by all NBA standards. Is there any doubt the *hope* when Elf was signed that he provide stable PG play while we wait for DS or Frank to supplant him? Problem is all have been abysmal or hurt
What Frank lacks is from the shoulders up. He has good measurables. His shot isn't broken. He can handle a little bit, doesn't usually turn the ball over (except when he does, he does in bunches). He just is missing something instinctual required of a modern NBA PG others have come up with their reasons for why he plays tentative/mechanical -- 'plays the right way' 'didn't play AAU' whatever the reason for his extreme reticence is, it's great if you're a foreign exchange student, it's not for the PG spot in the NBA. That doesn't mean he can't be an NBA player. It just means he was picked too damn high. I hear "runs the offense" for Frank and i'm like... is that how low our standards have fallen? And if he is running the offense where are the assists? Why is he passing the ball to a big at halfcourt like it's hot potato? It's a mental brainlock with Frank. Only he can break that lock and i'm not holding my breath it happens in the next couple seasons.
What Dennis lacks is also from the shoulders up,in a different way from frank. He looks every bit the part of a lotto pick. Great athleticism, handles, and also a shot that's not broken. But he can't defend and can be selfish. Is he still hurt/rusty? Is his head not in the game? Has he lost his mojo?
Payton gets the job with the two sweetest words in the english language: BY DEFAULT
There's fair and legitimate criticism and then there isn't.
Instead of thrilling in the fact that we have a young PG who defends as well as any, has just turned 21, and has all of the intangible character qualities that point to a respectable and hopefully illustrious career, you measure Ntilikina by the lottery position he was drafted in as if those positions have ever or ever will be meaningful.
In some imaginary alternate universe or GMs will never make worse picks than others, will never make a bad trade, and will always get the benefit of the doubt with referees.
But in this world, Frankie is ours, he ain't perfect, and many of us see the point guard of the future working his way into that role. He ain't there yet. And he *is* in a funk. but funks don't last forever.
Likewise Peyton is a yaer or two ahead of Frankie and also learning and developing - that's two fine prospects who will eventually find their way.
You seem to think DSJ "looks" like a lottery pick. To me he looks like a belligerent bust more often than not. He's not a PG with a future in the NBA - maybe Europe, maybe China, and after all that maybe the NBA when he outgrows the attitude if that's all it is.
12/12/2019 11:52 PM