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Uptown
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11/24/2019  8:32 PM
If Frank is going to take the next step, he really needs to start knocking down open jumperz
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11/24/2019  8:33 PM
Gotta hit it Frankie!!!!!!
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11/24/2019  8:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/24/2019  8:37 PM
Morris gets you there, but he don’t take you home.....
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11/24/2019  8:38 PM
Nalod wrote:Morris gets you there, but he don’t to you home.....

We simply shouldn't be a team that relys on hot shooting from Marcus Morris to win games.
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11/24/2019  8:38 PM
The tech!! UGGGGH!!!!
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11/24/2019  8:38 PM
Uptown wrote:If Frank is going to take the next step, he really needs to start knocking down open jumperz

Agreed.. Very Bad miss
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11/24/2019  8:39 PM
Nets are a team missing their best player but still defended and ran their offense.


Knicks? Not.

Difference? Coaching. Nets have 10 new players too. More than NY.

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11/24/2019  8:39 PM
TPercy wrote:
Nalod wrote:Morris gets you there, but he don’t to you home.....

We simply shouldn't be a team that relys on hot shooting from Marcus Morris to win games.

Hate to say it, but that’s who we are.

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11/24/2019  8:54 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Nets are a team missing their best player but still defended and ran their offense.


Knicks? Not.

Difference? Coaching. Nets have 10 new players too. More than NY.

Nets took 34 free throws, we took 16...game over.

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11/24/2019  8:58 PM
Uptown wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Nets are a team missing their best player but still defended and ran their offense.


Knicks? Not.

Difference? Coaching. Nets have 10 new players too. More than NY.

Nets took 34 free throws, we took 16...game over.

LOts of bad fouls.

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11/24/2019  9:40 PM
Oh boy. With the Nets best 2 players out (Kyrie and LeVert), the Knicks sport a more talented team.

Subpar coaching. Is it too late to bring in a new coaching staff, or if Fiz is tired, will the Knicks have to rely on one of the assistants?

Here’s our cast: Keith Smart, Kaleb Canales, Jud Buechler, Pat Sullivan, Royal Ivey, Mike Miller

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11/24/2019  9:44 PM
technomaster wrote:Oh boy. With the Nets best 2 players out (Kyrie and LeVert), the Knicks sport a more talented team.

Subpar coaching. Is it too late to bring in a new coaching staff, or if Fiz is tired, will the Knicks have to rely on one of the assistants?

Here’s our cast: Keith Smart, Kaleb Canales, Jud Buechler, Pat Sullivan, Royal Ivey, Mike Miller

I do think that there is subpar coaching going on. No idea why there is also not the same notion that the players are playing like **** too.

Chicken and egg. I gotta guess that the coaching staff has harped on Mitch not to do the stupid fouls. He seemed to get the message at the end of last season. What happened? Is that on coaching staff or Mitch?

Do we think that the coaching staff is NOT telling Randle to dibble into a double and triple team? Or do the spin maneuver that is almost a guaranteed TO?

Morris usually plays the full first quarter and I was happy to see Fiz take him out early when he missed an assignment or 2 about halfway in to the quarter.

It's good that Knox gets the quick hook right? He misses waaaayyyy too much on D. Simple stuff too

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11/25/2019  7:36 AM
RJ might be our best player? He was out. Winnable game but when Morris is your closer things are not so good.
Not fixable this season. THe roster is improved over last year but so is most of the league.
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11/25/2019  9:29 AM
martin wrote:
technomaster wrote:Oh boy. With the Nets best 2 players out (Kyrie and LeVert), the Knicks sport a more talented team.

Subpar coaching. Is it too late to bring in a new coaching staff, or if Fiz is tired, will the Knicks have to rely on one of the assistants?

Heres our cast: Keith Smart, Kaleb Canales, Jud Buechler, Pat Sullivan, Royal Ivey, Mike Miller

I do think that there is subpar coaching going on. No idea why there is also not the same notion that the players are playing like **** too.

Chicken and egg. I gotta guess that the coaching staff has harped on Mitch not to do the stupid fouls. He seemed to get the message at the end of last season. What happened? Is that on coaching staff or Mitch?

Do we think that the coaching staff is NOT telling Randle to dibble into a double and triple team? Or do the spin maneuver that is almost a guaranteed TO?

Morris usually plays the full first quarter and I was happy to see Fiz take him out early when he missed an assignment or 2 about halfway in to the quarter.

It's good that Knox gets the quick hook right? He misses waaaayyyy too much on D. Simple stuff too

I think everything that you mentioned is all about coaching.

Mitch elevating his overall play last season was due to DeAndre Jordan. That is good coaching. We don't have that now. Taj who is great doesn't play the same way and it seems Mitch is not taking to him

Randle is easy to fix. Bench his ass if he keeps doing it. He will fall in line really fast.

Morris I am ok with.

Knox is getting the right coaching. Why can't they do the same with Randle?

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11/25/2019  10:01 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
martin wrote:
technomaster wrote:Oh boy. With the Nets best 2 players out (Kyrie and LeVert), the Knicks sport a more talented team.

Subpar coaching. Is it too late to bring in a new coaching staff, or if Fiz is tired, will the Knicks have to rely on one of the assistants?

Heres our cast: Keith Smart, Kaleb Canales, Jud Buechler, Pat Sullivan, Royal Ivey, Mike Miller

I do think that there is subpar coaching going on. No idea why there is also not the same notion that the players are playing like **** too.

Chicken and egg. I gotta guess that the coaching staff has harped on Mitch not to do the stupid fouls. He seemed to get the message at the end of last season. What happened? Is that on coaching staff or Mitch?

Do we think that the coaching staff is NOT telling Randle to dibble into a double and triple team? Or do the spin maneuver that is almost a guaranteed TO?

Morris usually plays the full first quarter and I was happy to see Fiz take him out early when he missed an assignment or 2 about halfway in to the quarter.

It's good that Knox gets the quick hook right? He misses waaaayyyy too much on D. Simple stuff too

I think everything that you mentioned is all about coaching.

Mitch elevating his overall play last season was due to DeAndre Jordan. That is good coaching. We don't have that now. Taj who is great doesn't play the same way and it seems Mitch is not taking to him

Randle is easy to fix. Bench his ass if he keeps doing it. He will fall in line really fast.

Morris I am ok with.

Knox is getting the right coaching. Why can't they do the same with Randle?

I like the idea of benching Randle, but for who? Portis? Portis makes MORE mistakes than Randle, so you would need to bench then Portis for Randle? Or are you suggesting bench Randle, move Morris to the PF and bring in Knox who is already being benched for poor play. Who?

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11/25/2019  10:48 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
martin wrote:
technomaster wrote:Oh boy. With the Nets best 2 players out (Kyrie and LeVert), the Knicks sport a more talented team.

Subpar coaching. Is it too late to bring in a new coaching staff, or if Fiz is tired, will the Knicks have to rely on one of the assistants?

Heres our cast: Keith Smart, Kaleb Canales, Jud Buechler, Pat Sullivan, Royal Ivey, Mike Miller

I do think that there is subpar coaching going on. No idea why there is also not the same notion that the players are playing like **** too.

Chicken and egg. I gotta guess that the coaching staff has harped on Mitch not to do the stupid fouls. He seemed to get the message at the end of last season. What happened? Is that on coaching staff or Mitch?

Do we think that the coaching staff is NOT telling Randle to dibble into a double and triple team? Or do the spin maneuver that is almost a guaranteed TO?

Morris usually plays the full first quarter and I was happy to see Fiz take him out early when he missed an assignment or 2 about halfway in to the quarter.

It's good that Knox gets the quick hook right? He misses waaaayyyy too much on D. Simple stuff too

I think everything that you mentioned is all about coaching.

Mitch elevating his overall play last season was due to DeAndre Jordan. That is good coaching. We don't have that now. Taj who is great doesn't play the same way and it seems Mitch is not taking to him

Randle is easy to fix. Bench his ass if he keeps doing it. He will fall in line really fast.

Morris I am ok with.

Knox is getting the right coaching. Why can't they do the same with Randle?

Agreed. I actually think Randle is a pretty good passer and I have no idea if they are stressing that to him. But I do agree I think a benching will be a wake up call and get him into that mindset.
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11/25/2019  11:12 AM
Some positives from this loss. Frank is looking more comfortable going to the rim, showing a nice crossover. If you told me at the start of the season that Frank would be driving more than DSjr , wouldnt have believed you. The good news about Smith jr is he is starting to show some real playmaking ability. Wish he didnt wait so long before deciding to drive. Those pauses make it easier for the defense to stop him.

Morris tried to play heroball again, with that forced 2 pointer. Trying too hard to be the man. His numbers this season have been very good though. Randle was kicking out more on drives, which is good.

Dont get Fizdale starting Knox at the 2. Would have been a good time to give Trier some PT, starting, or off the bench.

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11/25/2019  11:16 AM
martin wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
martin wrote:
technomaster wrote:Oh boy. With the Nets best 2 players out (Kyrie and LeVert), the Knicks sport a more talented team.

Subpar coaching. Is it too late to bring in a new coaching staff, or if Fiz is tired, will the Knicks have to rely on one of the assistants?

Heres our cast: Keith Smart, Kaleb Canales, Jud Buechler, Pat Sullivan, Royal Ivey, Mike Miller

I do think that there is subpar coaching going on. No idea why there is also not the same notion that the players are playing like **** too.

Chicken and egg. I gotta guess that the coaching staff has harped on Mitch not to do the stupid fouls. He seemed to get the message at the end of last season. What happened? Is that on coaching staff or Mitch?

Do we think that the coaching staff is NOT telling Randle to dibble into a double and triple team? Or do the spin maneuver that is almost a guaranteed TO?

Morris usually plays the full first quarter and I was happy to see Fiz take him out early when he missed an assignment or 2 about halfway in to the quarter.

It's good that Knox gets the quick hook right? He misses waaaayyyy too much on D. Simple stuff too

I think everything that you mentioned is all about coaching.

Mitch elevating his overall play last season was due to DeAndre Jordan. That is good coaching. We don't have that now. Taj who is great doesn't play the same way and it seems Mitch is not taking to him

Randle is easy to fix. Bench his ass if he keeps doing it. He will fall in line really fast.

Morris I am ok with.

Knox is getting the right coaching. Why can't they do the same with Randle?

I like the idea of benching Randle, but for who? Portis? Portis makes MORE mistakes than Randle, so you would need to bench then Portis for Randle? Or are you suggesting bench Randle, move Morris to the PF and bring in Knox who is already being benched for poor play. Who?

You can go a couple of different ways. I wouldn't for Portis. Portis job right now is perfect. Instant offense on the 4 or 5 spot against 2nd stringers.

I would try Knox first and move Morris to the 4 spot. Knox kills me with his defense though and he would have a short leash to make sure he understands he needs to do better on defense.

We can also try Dotson or Trier at the 2 guard. Then move RJ to the 3 spot and Morris to the 4 spot. Trier would also get a short leash if he doesn't move the ball.

I would keep DSJr backing up Frank. He needs time to get his game up to speed. Breen said it in the telecast last night. DSJr was drafted in the lottery because he was an attacking PG. He needs to get back to that. However, Fizdale and his stupid offense stops him from doing this. I hate that ****ing 3 man weave hand off at the top of the key going east and west ****.

The player that I was hoping to see is Reggie Bullock. If he ever gets healthy, plugging him in the 3 spot and moving Morris to the 4 spot would do wonders. He is a 3 and D type player in the Ariza mold.

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