fwk00 wrote:I don't think the Knicks will need Kyrie. They'll have a generational backcourt with Mudiay, Frankie, THJ, Dotson and Baker.

Who they should concentrate on signing are 5 star bench players who can spell the starting five when injuries occur.

And we thought that the Warriors had a generational 73 win team then got Durant.

I mean, I figure we could deploy Kyrie off the bench with KP when he returns. I'm debating whether Knox/THJr as a starter, depending on chemistry. It might be good to get Knox some burn with the starters.

technomaster wrote:

fwk00 wrote:I don't think the Knicks will need Kyrie. They'll have a generational backcourt with Mudiay, Frankie, THJ, Dotson and Baker.

Who they should concentrate on signing are 5 star bench players who can spell the starting five when injuries occur.

And we thought that the Warriors had a generational 73 win team then got Durant.

I mean, I figure we could deploy Kyrie off the bench with KP when he returns. I'm debating whether Knox/THJr as a starter, depending on chemistry. It might be good to get Knox some burn with the starters.

I think Waaaay too much faith is being put in KP ever reaching his former potential. Aside from his injury, his ego and exposure to Melo has been a toxic handicap to his career.

I hope we trade him before he becomes a fiscal dead weight.

fwk00 wrote:I don't think the Knicks will need Kyrie. They'll have a generational backcourt with Mudiay, Frankie, THJ, Dotson and Baker.

Who they should concentrate on signing are 5 star bench players who can spell the starting five when injuries occur.

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Panos wrote:This clip of plays from just one game is flat out incredible. This isn't someone just hoisting up volume 3pt or long range shots. He's taking it to the rim hard and scoring with hands in his face. Let some of that rub off on KP! I think the pairing would be outstanding.

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But I guess now Kyrie is just a dumb scorer. Yea.. lets pass.

This is not Melo

Knicks are building a supporting cast of athletic smart guys. Fans dont want to add one of the leagues best scorers?

While some guys are talking if Kyrie makes sense the rest of us can watch him win game 7 by lighting up GS best defenders. Kyrie made Klay and Draymond look like Melo and Afflalo

I would like to add a scorer that's as committed to defense as he is to scoring. Would you say Kyrie is and elite or an above average defender?

Great, and it doesn't even address my question, much less answer it.

try asking a better question

So it's not ok to ask if he can play defense at a high level when considering him for the max contract?

That isnt what you are asking, so spare me... So its not ok to ask what imaginary players you would like to spend money on?

But yea... lets avoid signing chuckers like Kyrie so we can remain flexible to sign the guys you like who dont exist. Your position is clear.

Well, actually that is my position. You don't spend cap space just because u have it. I think staying flexible and waiting for the right type of player to hit the market us more prudent. I am very much focused on the long game.

Which players are you targeting for 2019, 2020, or 2021?

What I am preaching is flexibility and opportunism, it's the opposite of locking in on one or two players and then outbidding ourselves to make it happen. That last part is how the Knicks have operated for the last several years. If Kwahi becomes an FA or Klay can be traded for, I would definitely jump on it, but I would also make sure I am not overpaying. There's always going to be some "star player" wanting to move. I just want to get the ones that fit our proclaimed team philosophy.

flexibility and opportunism are going to yield a better player than Irving? How? You have no plan. Those are cute ideas. How are you molding them into an elite NBA team? Maybe provide an example of the kind of trade or move you are looking to make? Like hey.. Team X did this and now look at them... thats what I want to do.

Who are the players you are targeting and what is your plan to get them? YOu want Klay but dont want to overpay... is this your first 10 minutes following the NBA? Its a talent driven league. Its why teams throw money at any turd with upside, because high end NBA talent is so hard to acquire. Do you understand this? I am great with you having an alternate plan worth discussing... but flexibility and opportunism are not a plan.

If you are going to push back against signing one of the league's best players at 26 I would hope something better than flexibility and opportunism.

Jmpasq.. Kanter walks, Mudiay walks, stretch Noah.... they can sigh Kyrie pretty easily. You max out KP immediatly after Kyrie signs. This saves you the diff on KP's cap hold vs. the actual deal he gets.

The "plan" is not doing the same stupid things we keep doing. That is the plan
Every chucker that becomes available and wants to exploit the NY Media grabs the imagination of fans who starts making the cases for hon to be the ONLY way we can get better. This is classic Knicks fan bullshyt. You already know that the well run franchises don't overpay for one dimensional talent and get there by doing that. We have already overpayed for McDyess, Curry, Amare, Melo, Noah ...everyone of these turds had some level of fan support as "Max players" or "near Max players"-- and the results speak for themselves.

Fantasizing about a set of named players becoming Knicks isn't planning, its starfukking.

When in a hole, don't keep digging.

After the next draft the Knicks will have had a high lottery pick in 4 of the last 5 years. Mills and Perry have stated they aren't signing anyone to more than a one year deal and that they are targeting the summer of 2019 to be players in free agency. Mills has sat d they will have a max slot open to sign someone. Who do you want them to target?
Also, I call bs on Ainge doing it the right way with Kyrie. If anyone running the Knicks traded what was projected to be a top 5 lottery pick in the next draft plus Thomas and Crowder for a player they lost for nothing two years later the fans and media would kill them. You don't give up that much to try someone out.
I absolutely think Kyrie is trying to push the Celtics into giving him an extension. But the Celtics still
Looked really good without him and committing max money to him might not be in their best interest. If they decide that and he is interested in the Knicks then I think
Perry/Mills sign him. We know they want to get a max guy to pair with KP. Who is your target for 2019 with max slot they plan on using?

I want them to target high IQ two way players like they said they would. I have also already said Okay and Kwahi are great targets